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SamSam Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
This movie seemed to embody Jim Carrey's appeal, and how his career lives on despite having what must be the shittiest agent in Hollywood.
I enjoyed it despite myself- it was so badly and transparently written (These fucking romantic comedy writers need to be sent to re-education camps or something) yet JC sort of carried it.
Focused too much on the thin/unbelievable/generic romance. This girl's cute and quirky and wears a helmet with manga eyes on them so she's *definitely* the one. Yeah.

And the one guy all these cute and quirky girls need is a fucking pencil pusher who suddenly realizes he likes to have fun and proceeds to shed his personality as naturally as a python does its skin.

Throw in a trashy indie-looking buddy who bums and constantly tries to get laid, a couple of social retards whom the protagonist can hook up together so that his character's moral inventory can grow (I'm sure those writers use terms like that as well) and you have yourself a movie.

It's ungodly, the way this genre cannibalizes itself to perpetuate its movies. This movie was done before in Shallow Hal and Along Came Polly. Don't these writers ever want to chop their fingertips off so they can avoid mass bludgeoning people's brains?

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Oh god, Yes Man does not deserve its own thread.

    What have you done and why did you go see it?

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?
    Tin Man was decent.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?
    Tin Man was decent.

    So was Elf, but by and large she's just the quirky chick in the forgettable comedy/romantic comedy of the moment.

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    Mobile-DMobile-D Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    It wasn't anything new, that's for sure.

    But c'mon,
    When he plays Jumper for the guy on the ledge?

    Brilliant.

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    OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I think he already did this movie before. It was called Liar, Liar.

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    Element BrianElement Brian Peanut Butter Shill Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    I think he already did this movie before. It was called Liar, Liar.

    Seriously, first time I saw the trailor, I thought it was a joke.

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    CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm a big Jim Carrey fan, but he really has been stuck with shitty role upon shitty role. It's a shame, because you don't see that many great comedies anymore.

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    RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?
    Tin Man was decent.

    Hitchhiker's Guide, Bridge to Terabithia?

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    thanimationsthanimations Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Rohan wrote: »
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?
    Tin Man was decent.

    Hitchhiker's Guide, Bridge to Terabithia?

    Winter's Passing, Surf's Up?

    I'd think if anything she doesn't have enough leads yet. She's generally either the quirky love interest or the quirky best friend to the love interest.

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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    i like liar liar so ill probably enjoy yes man.

    they should just call it liar liar 2 though. or liar liar pants on fire

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    i like liar liar so ill probably enjoy yes man.

    they should just call it liar liar 2 though. or liar liar pants on fire

    The first one would be called Liar Liar '90s Edition and Yes Man would be Liar Liar Millenium

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    EmanonEmanon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    As long as people continue to pay for crappy movies that's all we'll ever see!!

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    RecklessReckless Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Everything that makes it to the silver screen can't be Dark Knight.

    Pass on this one. It's a shame 'cause I was the biggest Jim Carrey fan when I was a kid. I can still quote AV2 line-for-line.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Man all I can think of when I saw the trailer was some guy going:

    "Hey, you have to say yes to everything right?"

    "Yes!"

    "Good. Take this shotgun and blow your fucking brains out for thinking this concept would make a good movie dipshit."

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    Umm... she played Andy's psycho girlfriend on Weeds. And she was awesome, as she always is.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I thought the movie was pretty good, though not as good as Liar, Liar.

    At least it was his own decision in this one and not a joke by god or whatever caused it in Liar.

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    SamSam Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sentry wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    Umm... she played Andy's psycho girlfriend on Weeds. And she was awesome, as she always is.

    It's such a stupid shorthand characterization, not just in this film but *any* film that wants you to fall in love with the girl, or at least like her. It's so superficial- she's cute, she has quirky hobbies and therefore she is exactly what any man needs.

    Oh yeah and she just happens to look like she wouldn't be out of place on the cover of a beauty magazine, yet she has nothing better to do than hang out with losers until Jim Carrey decides to sweep her away to non-loser-dom.

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    SamSam Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    I thought the movie was pretty good, though not as good as Liar, Liar.

    At least it was his own decision in this one and not a joke by god or whatever caused it in Liar.

    It's not really out of free will though.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sam wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    Umm... she played Andy's psycho girlfriend on Weeds. And she was awesome, as she always is.

    It's such a stupid shorthand characterization, not just in this film but *any* film that wants you to fall in love with the girl, or at least like her. It's so superficial- she's cute, she has quirky hobbies and therefore she is exactly what any man needs.

    Oh yeah and she just happens to look like she wouldn't be out of place on the cover of a beauty magazine, yet she has nothing better to do than hang out with losers until Jim Carrey decides to sweep her away to non-loser-dom.

    Well... (Weeds Spoiler)
    On Weeds she stabbed Andy in the stomach and then made a 10 year old boy think she loved him so he would break up with his girlfriend. Then she kidnapped the 10 year old and left him in a truck stop in the California desert.
    But yes, I was in love with her still.

    It occurs to me that you might be talking about her character in Yes Man, which I have not seen yet.

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    ColdredColdred Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    This the film based on Danny Wallace's book? Ugh, him and Dave Gorman's "stunts" are a bit tiresome really.

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    Lord MaloryLord Malory Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I think the OP has a great grasp of contemporary film...ology. Good, concise, biting "quick review".

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    stiliststilist Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I, too, immediately thought of Liar Liar, and I’ve never even seen it.

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    Nikolai!Nikolai! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    I thought the Go-Getter was decent.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm just plain tired of the "something wacky happens to main character that allows him to do weird shit or makes him do weird shit for no real reason, wacky hijinks caused by weird shit ensues, insert heartwarming ending despite the fact that the guy should be traumatized for life" genre.

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    Mullitt The WiseMullitt The Wise Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    It was kinda funny (the best parts were Rhys Darby) but it was way too stereotypical "hollywood comedy."
    And the whole part with the
    old lady blowjob
    was pretty ridiculous and seemed like it was in there to be raunchy for the sake of it to compete with the Apatow comedies.
    Also, I didn't like that Jim Carrey was playing someone so young. He looked goofy wearing those clothes and was for some reason 15 years older than all of his friends.

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    artifexiteartifexite Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I saw this movie this afternoon, because nothing else was playing that a) I wanted to see, and b) wasn't intense. I went in thinking this is going to be Liar Liar two, and I wonder how they're going to get Zooey Deschanel to sing.

    This movie was funny. Especially the bar fight, and the jumper scene, but the whole movie was not bad. Maybe I am just happy about the holidays, but it was not a horrible movie.

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    Stevo 22Stevo 22 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sentry wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    Umm... she played Andy's psycho girlfriend on Weeds. And she was awesome, as she always is.

    Normally, I would agree... but... The Happening. Come on. She really was the worst thing in that movie, and that's saying a lot.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Stevo 22 wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    Umm... she played Andy's psycho girlfriend on Weeds. And she was awesome, as she always is.

    Normally, I would agree... but... The Happening. Come on. She really was the worst thing in that movie, and that's saying a lot.

    ... don't you blame that atrocity on her. How dare you sir. How dare you!
    artifexite wrote: »
    I saw this movie this afternoon, because nothing else was playing that a) I wanted to see, and b) wasn't intense. I went in thinking this is going to be Liar Liar two, and I wonder how they're going to get Zooey Deschanel to sing.

    This movie was funny. Especially the bar fight, and the jumper scene, but the whole movie was not bad. Maybe I am just happy about the holidays, but it was not a horrible movie.

    I saw it for the same reason, and had the same thoughts. It was okay.. not great, but not wretch worthy. It was predictable, and Carrey did look way older then he was trying to play. But it was watchable, for sure.

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    Stevo 22Stevo 22 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sentry wrote: »
    Stevo 22 wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    Umm... she played Andy's psycho girlfriend on Weeds. And she was awesome, as she always is.

    Normally, I would agree... but... The Happening. Come on. She really was the worst thing in that movie, and that's saying a lot.

    ... don't you blame that atrocity on her. How dare you sir. How dare you!

    I think of it like this...

    If a private is ordered by his superior to mutilate a small child and he does it, he's just following orders. Maybe he didn't sign up to mutilate children but the fact remains that a child was mutilated and it was done by his hands.

    Maybe Zooey can be forgiven, but that she was hammier and cheesier than anything in that awful movie. And even in something like Hamlet 2 her performance would be considered sub-par. I dunno man, I loves me some Deschanel but I know what I saw. :x

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Stevo 22 wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Stevo 22 wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Why can't Zooey Deschanel ever land a decent role?

    Umm... she played Andy's psycho girlfriend on Weeds. And she was awesome, as she always is.

    Normally, I would agree... but... The Happening. Come on. She really was the worst thing in that movie, and that's saying a lot.

    ... don't you blame that atrocity on her. How dare you sir. How dare you!

    I think of it like this...

    If a private is ordered by his superior to mutilate a small child and he does it, he's just following orders. Maybe he didn't sign up to mutilate children but the fact remains that a child was mutilated and it was done by his hands.

    Maybe Zooey can be forgiven, but that she was hammier and cheesier than anything in that awful movie. And even in something like Hamlet 2 her performance would be considered sub-par. I dunno man, I loves me some Deschanel but I know what I saw. :x

    That Hamlet 2 comment was weird. I guess you were making some kind of comparison, but it was lost on me.

    Regardless, good acting talent (and Zooey is simply good, she's not exceptional (but I still love her... and double parenthasis!)) cannot overcome a horrible script and poor directing. See: Everyone in Star Wars Episodes 1, 2, and 3 (and that's even more damning, because I consider Ewan McGregor to be very good, and Liam Neeson to be exceptional. And Natalie Portman, whom I also love.)

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    TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    I think he already did this movie before. It was called Liar, Liar.

    Seriously.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I don't see how it's the same as Liar, Liar. Similar in the sense that both films use a contrived gimmick to deliver trite life lessons to an increasingly unhinged lead, sure, but that description covers Bruce Almighty and a plethora of other films that don't star Jim Carrey as well.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    I think he already did this movie before. It was called Liar, Liar.

    Seriously.

    I thought this when I first saw the preview... but actually, the two movies have absolutely nothing in common.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    his response to outside stimuli is out of his control. in one he can't lie, in one he can't say no. that's where the comparison comes from.

    I doubt anyone saying that has actually seen the film but it's not so odd to link the two.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Variable wrote: »
    his response to outside stimuli is out of his control. in one he can't lie, in one he can't say no. that's where the comparison comes from.

    I doubt anyone saying that has actually seen the film but it's not so odd to link the two.

    I thought he actually makes the choice to never say no.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Variable wrote: »
    his response to outside stimuli is out of his control. in one he can't lie, in one he can't say no. that's where the comparison comes from.

    I doubt anyone saying that has actually seen the film but it's not so odd to link the two.
    I'm pretty sure his response is controlled in Yes Man. He chooses to say yes.

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    artifexiteartifexite Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Yeah but,
    he gets chain-letter-convinced that he has to say yes to things
    so who knows how much of a choice you should consider it.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    yeah my point is, for the viewer, no matter how much he wants to say no he's going to say yes just like in liar liar no matter how much he wants to lie he will tell the truth.

    you know, hilarious comedy

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Variable wrote: »
    yeah my point is, for the viewer, no matter how much he wants to say no he's going to say yes just like in liar liar no matter how much he wants to lie he will tell the truth.

    you know, hilarious comedy

    I mean... societal convention forces him to wear pants in both movies, so I guess that's the same.

    The fact is, he can say no at any time... he;s not bound by a spell or genie.

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