Does anyone here have a working theory of why this series continued after Season 4?
No, not some cynical sarcastic answer. The answer is not "cocks." I really have been trying to figure this out for years now, and no real explanation has come to light.
because it was always suppsosed to be 5 seasons
That is not a good reason.
That is a stupid reason.
How is the fact that he had a predetermined overarching arc that spanned 5 seasons a stupid reason
He finished the arc in season 4 because he thought he was going to get canceled. There was really no need for season 5
Does anyone here have a working theory of why this series continued after Season 4?
No, not some cynical sarcastic answer. The answer is not "cocks." I really have been trying to figure this out for years now, and no real explanation has come to light.
because it was always suppsosed to be 5 seasons
That is not a good reason.
That is a stupid reason.
How is the fact that he had a predetermined overarching arc that spanned 5 seasons a stupid reason
J. Michael Straczinzszckininsky claims that this was the case, but I utterly refuse to believe it.
Season 1: Beginning of pretty cool story arc. Very Star Trekkish.
Season 2: Plot thickens. In 2259, War Was Beginning and whatnot.
Season 3: In a severe case of Skorpius Syndrome, the Shadows become the new bad guys. In the overarcing story, this is the run up to the climax.
Season 4: Climax, then denoument, and a pretty good one at that. The whole thing pretty much comes to a close, the grand story arc completed.
And then:
Season 5: Psi-corps wankery, more war between the Drakh, who nobody gives a shit about, and then they blow up the space station.
Where the fuck does season 5 fit into the overarcing story that, you know, ENDED in Season 4?
Does anyone here have a working theory of why this series continued after Season 4?
No, not some cynical sarcastic answer. The answer is not "cocks." I really have been trying to figure this out for years now, and no real explanation has come to light.
because it was always suppsosed to be 5 seasons
That is not a good reason.
That is a stupid reason.
How is the fact that he had a predetermined overarching arc that spanned 5 seasons a stupid reason
He finished the arc in season 4 because he thought he was going to get canceled. There was really no need for season 5
He finished the Civil War in season 4 because of that
The Drakh/Centauri stuff was always still part of the plan though
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Does anyone here have a working theory of why this series continued after Season 4?
No, not some cynical sarcastic answer. The answer is not "cocks." I really have been trying to figure this out for years now, and no real explanation has come to light.
because it was always suppsosed to be 5 seasons
That is not a good reason.
That is a stupid reason.
How is the fact that he had a predetermined overarching arc that spanned 5 seasons a stupid reason
J. Michael Straczinzszckininsky claims that this was the case, but I utterly refuse to believe it.
Season 1: Beginning of pretty cool story arc. Very Star Trekkish.
Season 2: Plot thickens. In 2259, War Was Beginning and whatnot.
Season 3: In a severe case of Skorpius Syndrome, the Shadows become the new bad guys. In the overarcing story, this is the run up to the climax.
Season 4: Climax, then denoument, and a pretty good one at that. The whole thing pretty much comes to a close, the grand story arc completed.
And then:
Season 5: Psi-corps wankery, more war between the Drakh, who nobody gives a shit about, and then they blow up the space station.
Where the fuck does season 5 fit into the overarcing story that, you know, ENDED in Season 4?
This post leads me to believe that you maybe saw it once as it aired and dont remember it very well
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Meesta Garibaldi!
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G'Kar is the coolest mother fucker ever.
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When I heard Andreas Katsulas died, I was soooo freakin' heartbroken. G'Kar was my absolute favorite character overall. The relationship between G'Kar and Londo was absolutely fantastically developed. I did loooooove me some Ivonova and Marcus though too.
This post leads me to believe that you maybe saw it once as it aired and dont remember it very well
Holy shit, your Online Nerd Penis is MASSIVE!
I own the first four seasons. I watched the fifth for about three episodes and then gave it away to a friend who wanted it.
This series was done in the finale of the fourth season. Flogging the dead child farther down the track was not "great writing that realized the original story arc" as so many J. Michael worshippers claim. It was piss-poor writing. A good writer knows when to stop the story. JMS did not.
That or he just knew there were idiots out there who would give him a paycheck no matter what he did on this series.
Personally, I just pretend the fifth season didn't happen. It's much better that way.
I can understand the complaints about certain aspects of B5 (though the end credits of Sleeping In Light sort of give them an out for some of the shitty acting) - however, people need to realize that, without B5, shows like LOST, ALIAS, and BSG would not have happened. Babylon 5 opened the door for multi-season storytelling.
It's also worth noting that not only did JMS suddenly have to expand subplots into full blown arcs that had no business doing so (Telepath Colony) but Ivanova left the show, and a big chuck of story that would have belonged to her character went with her.
Oh also The Corps is Mother, The Corps is Father was another great season 5 ep
"Great" should be reserved for 90% of season 3, 60% of season 2, 40% of season 4, a handful of season 1 episodes, "Sleeping In Light" (which was filmed as the season 4 finale, but then TNT picked up the show), and "In The Beginning".
Season 3 was fucking awesome.
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Yeah, and Season 5 was underrated, even though a large part of it was in the hands of an actress whos previous credits include "Slutty extra" from ROADHOUSE and "crazy bitch" from the NotLD 1990 remake.
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In the future, Russia will one day become relevant again.
And this will be our deity.
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I have not once defended Lochely or anything from the first half of season 5, and even went so far as to point out that the lack of Ivonova did as much damage to the structure of it as did rushing the civil war storyline in season 4.
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He finished the arc in season 4 because he thought he was going to get canceled. There was really no need for season 5
good times
J. Michael Straczinzszckininsky claims that this was the case, but I utterly refuse to believe it.
Season 1: Beginning of pretty cool story arc. Very Star Trekkish.
Season 2: Plot thickens. In 2259, War Was Beginning and whatnot.
Season 3: In a severe case of Skorpius Syndrome, the Shadows become the new bad guys. In the overarcing story, this is the run up to the climax.
Season 4: Climax, then denoument, and a pretty good one at that. The whole thing pretty much comes to a close, the grand story arc completed.
And then:
Season 5: Psi-corps wankery, more war between the Drakh, who nobody gives a shit about, and then they blow up the space station.
Where the fuck does season 5 fit into the overarcing story that, you know, ENDED in Season 4?
He finished the Civil War in season 4 because of that
The Drakh/Centauri stuff was always still part of the plan though
Nooo.
What do you mean "No"?
No.
CAN ANYONE HEAR US?
I hear you HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This post leads me to believe that you maybe saw it once as it aired and dont remember it very well
Holy shit, your Online Nerd Penis is MASSIVE!
I own the first four seasons. I watched the fifth for about three episodes and then gave it away to a friend who wanted it.
This series was done in the finale of the fourth season. Flogging the dead child farther down the track was not "great writing that realized the original story arc" as so many J. Michael worshippers claim. It was piss-poor writing. A good writer knows when to stop the story. JMS did not.
That or he just knew there were idiots out there who would give him a paycheck no matter what he did on this series.
Personally, I just pretend the fifth season didn't happen. It's much better that way.
I dont think even JMS would argue that.
But had he not crammed the end of the civil war into season 4, it still would have ended 1/3 or 1/2 way into season 5.
And all the Drakh/Centauri stuff would still have happaned.
I mean thats how Londo gets to the point he's in in War Without End Part II
Plus the fact that one of the running themes of the show was that there was no "end" there was always something else that was going to happen.
You really think he was going to get an entire season of the 3 episodes after that?
And TNT almost gets a pass for fucking over B5:Crusade because "In the Beginning" would not have been made if the show hadn't migrated to TNT.
I think I'll stick to a simple, classic "ur mom" in response, with maybe an extra "no U" added for garnish.
man fuck you, The Fall of Centauri Prime is a great episode
Traditional. I like it. :^:
Oh also The Corps is Mother, The Corps is Father was another great season 5 ep
Season 3 was fucking awesome.
You know what? Gilbert and Sullivan are motherfuckin' cool..
I forgot - TNT and Season 5 should get credit for having the best title sequence.
Fuck you, Bale - Franklin was awesome.
except when he was with Marcus
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The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari is in the first half of season 5, I'll defend that.
Fandy you have said a lot of dumb things
but this
THIS
jesus christ Fandy
John Sherridan is so much cooler than Michael Sinclair its not even funny
Lyta was awesome before the Byron storyline ruined her
And in what season did the Byron storyline take place? :P
in the first half of season 5 which I have said multiple times is as terrible as everyone else says