If this was a year ago I'm wondering if she wasn't his same size or something. Pregnancy can do a number on you.
I don't think it'd make you get taller though... I think most girls reach their adult height by 14 (i'm same height as I was at 12), and babies leech calcium out of the body, so I don't think she'd grow much if she was still growing.
It can escalate the growth process as the body hurries to reach the proper size to care for the child, due to the sudden influx of hormones (does happen to have a number on the bones as some people have had early signs of osteoporosis -- although I can't find the quote in my textbook from my bio class I think this may have been mentioned in passing so take it at face value).
So, does that mean she might end up growing to be larger than she would normally have been had she not gotten knocked up by the seven year old?
Probably not, it just accelerates it. But again, that's word of mouth from my professor. He is probably completely wrong, but according to wikipedia your hips and other common puberty traits do occur with the influx of hormones so it's no crazy out there with ideas.
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I actually thought that 13/15 story was kinda sweet. I mean, yeah, stupid stupid kids and all, but for all their fuck ups, it seems like everyone involved is trying their hardest to make things work, even if not all the participants know what the hell they're doing just yet.
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Which hormones would accelerate height growth though? I know estrogen and progesterone both slow down growth and have been used to 'treat' girls who are 'too tall'.
*goes off to google unless someone has an answer for me*
Is it me or does her face/head/neck look really ass goofy? That kid could've done better.
Apparently he wanted a girl that puts out, hotness wasn't a priority. I hear you can't get married in England till your 18, so he has all kinds of time to spread his seed before saying the vows.
I actually thought that 13/15 story was kinda sweet. I mean, yeah, stupid stupid kids and all, but for all their fuck ups, it seems like everyone involved is trying their hardest to make things work, even if not all the participants know what the hell they're doing just yet.
Yeah, its nice to see he has some sort of "I should be a good father" morals and a notion of what that means. I'm kinda scared reality and cynicism will hit him like ton of bricks tho.
Which hormones would accelerate height growth though? I know estrogen and progesterone both slow down growth and have been used to 'treat' girls who are 'too tall'.
*goes off to google unless someone has an answer for me*
Testosterone? I think hCG might also play a part in it, since it can stimulate testosterone and progesterone development.
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I actually thought that 13/15 story was kinda sweet. I mean, yeah, stupid stupid kids and all, but for all their fuck ups, it seems like everyone involved is trying their hardest to make things work, even if not all the participants know what the hell they're doing just yet.
Yeah, its nice to see he has some sort of "I should be a good father" morals and a notion of what that means. I'm kinda scared reality and cynicism will hit him like ton of bricks tho.
yeah, the kid's attitude about it is in the right place; the problem is he doesn't seem to grasp anywhere near the scope of what having a kid means (which isn't completely his fault, but whatever).
Which hormones would accelerate height growth though? I know estrogen and progesterone both slow down growth and have been used to 'treat' girls who are 'too tall'.
*goes off to google unless someone has an answer for me*
Testosterone? I think hCG might also play a part in it, since it can stimulate testosterone and progesterone development.
Which hormones would accelerate height growth though? I know estrogen and progesterone both slow down growth and have been used to 'treat' girls who are 'too tall'.
*goes off to google unless someone has an answer for me*
estrogen doesn't neccarily inhibit growth, but it does make the bones fuse faster. Which has the side effect of locking in your height. Hence why women tend to be shorten than men. Less estrogen in men = longer for the bones to fuse.
Is it me or does her face/head/neck look really ass goofy? That kid could've done better.
Apparently he wanted a girl that puts out, hotness wasn't a priority. I hear you can't get married in England till your 18, so he has all kinds of time to spread his seed before saying the vows.
She's still 15, and a kid. She probably won't look like that in 10 years.
Which hormones would accelerate height growth though? I know estrogen and progesterone both slow down growth and have been used to 'treat' girls who are 'too tall'.
*goes off to google unless someone has an answer for me*
don't forget.. growth hormone :P it controls 30-50% of adult body height
also thyroid hormone
there are also tons of environmental and genetic factors regulating maximum adult height: exercise, nutrition, etc.
She could become chief carer for boyfriend Alfie if they decided to move into a love-nest once she turns 16.
She would become entitled to taxpayer-funded handouts — including a free council flat.
The cash would enable her to support Maisie and the baby-faced father until he is old enough to go to work.
The teenage pair are living with Chantelle’s jobless dad Steve, 43, and her five brothers in Eastbourne, East Sussex.
But they could move out once she has left school and leap to the top of the council flat list.
A welfare source said: “If they take this step, Alfie would become her child.
“He could not be recognised as Chantelle’s partner in the eyes of the law because he is only 13. But once she is over 16, she would be in a position to act as his mother.
“If she assumes that role, she would become eligible for all the benefits that go with it.â€
Chantelle would qualify for housing benefit and £33.20 a week child benefit for her baby and boyfriend, plus income support.
Thats a pretty good deal, this case has nothing on the 3 girls who made a pregnancy pact a year or two ago to get council flats. One of the girls picked a hobo off the street for hers
Thats a pretty good deal, this case has nothing on the 3 girls who made a pregnancy pact a year or two ago to get council flats. One of the girls picked a hobo off the street for hers
Thats a pretty good deal, this case has nothing on the 3 girls who made a pregnancy pact a year or two ago to get council flats. One of the girls picked a hobo off the street for hers
What's a council flat?
I imagine its a government paid for apartment.
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Thats a pretty good deal, this case has nothing on the 3 girls who made a pregnancy pact a year or two ago to get council flats. One of the girls picked a hobo off the street for hers
What's a council flat?
I imagine its a government paid for apartment.
Basically the English version of Section 8 in the US.
Strangely enough, the welfare state/democratic socialism is actually the solution to this problem and secondarily to the problem of overpopulation.
When you raise the floor for standard of living up to a certain point, birth rates will naturally slow, as they have in much of Europe.
The thing that the welfare queen wants the most is the thing that eliminates her.
So what about getting more welfare money inhibits people from having more children?
because unless you are burying said children under your trailer, you quickly realize that the money you get doesn't begin to make up for their cost.
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'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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Having tons of offspring is predominantly a strategy that is chosen when the environment is unstable/poor. When people are better off, they voluntarily choose to have less kids. The reason they choose to (unconsciously) is because it gives them the best odds. The welfare queen is going to start getting genetically outcompeted by people who are actually taking care of fewer kids.
Though just handing out welfare money the way we do isnt a very good or progressive system as far as raising the standard of living.
Having tons of offspring is predominantly a strategy that is chosen when the environment is unstable/poor. When people are better off, they voluntarily choose to have less kids. The reason they choose to (unconsciously) is because it gives them the best odds. The welfare queen is going to start getting genetically outcompeted by people who are actually taking care of fewer kids.
Though just handing out welfare money the way we do isnt a very good or progressive system as far as raising the standard of living.
That makes no sense. Producing tons of doomed offspring wastes a lot of energy and nutrients. It's much better to make them count when resources are scarce, and to pump 'em out when you can eat your fill.
Having tons of offspring is predominantly a strategy that is chosen when the environment is unstable/poor. When people are better off, they voluntarily choose to have less kids. The reason they choose to (unconsciously) is because it gives them the best odds. The welfare queen is going to start getting genetically outcompeted by people who are actually taking care of fewer kids.
Though just handing out welfare money the way we do isnt a very good or progressive system as far as raising the standard of living.
That makes no sense. Producing tons of doomed offspring wastes a lot of energy and nutrients. It's much better to make them count when resources are scarce, and to pump 'em out when you can eat your fill.
We've already dealt with this guy's lack of biological understanding back on page 8/9, I believe. Anyway something along these lines was commonly taught for a fair while in response to some demographic shifts observable with improved standards of living, but the model has started to break down since then - birth rates are dropping all over with not much connection to standard of living metrics, or even BC access metrics. Its kind of weird, actually. There was something in the Economist about it in a recent issue, IIRC.
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So apparently the Octomom's publicist quit because of all the death threats. It's cool though; she has an agent now.
Is this American Gothic, the Great American Story, the Greatest American Story Ever Told?
Sometimes I get confused.
Mom buys the ability to have a shitload of kids on credit all at the same time, government pays for their care while she somehow manages to make millions?
Shit, it's like the American Dream and the Communist Dream all rolled into a big pile of shit stew and mixed metaphors.
So apparently the Octomom's publicist quit because of all the death threats. It's cool though; she has an agent now.
Is this American Gothic, the Great American Story, the Greatest American Story Ever Told?
Sometimes I get confused.
Mom buys the ability to have a shitload of kids on credit all at the same time, government pays for their care while she somehow manages to make millions?
Shit, it's like the American Dream and the Communist Dream all rolled into a big pile of shit stew and mixed metaphors.
Although stew would be a good solution, and would make a good accompaniment to the cold sandwiches.
So apparently the Octomom's publicist quit because of all the death threats. It's cool though; she has an agent now.
Is this American Gothic, the Great American Story, the Greatest American Story Ever Told?
Sometimes I get confused.
Mom buys the ability to have a shitload of kids on credit all at the same time, government pays for their care while she somehow manages to make millions?
Shit, it's like the American Dream and the Communist Dream all rolled into a big pile of shit stew and mixed metaphors.
Although stew would be a good solution, and would make a good accompaniment to the cold sandwiches.
Having tons of offspring is predominantly a strategy that is chosen when the environment is unstable/poor. When people are better off, they voluntarily choose to have less kids. The reason they choose to (unconsciously) is because it gives them the best odds. The welfare queen is going to start getting genetically outcompeted by people who are actually taking care of fewer kids.
Though just handing out welfare money the way we do isnt a very good or progressive system as far as raising the standard of living.
That makes no sense. Producing tons of doomed offspring wastes a lot of energy and nutrients. It's much better to make them count when resources are scarce, and to pump 'em out when you can eat your fill.
The whole "shit-load of offspring" theory might make sense in areas with high infant mortality rates... but it's pretty much bunk in any modern case.
I actually thought that 13/15 story was kinda sweet. I mean, yeah, stupid stupid kids and all, but for all their fuck ups, it seems like everyone involved is trying their hardest to make things work, even if not all the participants know what the hell they're doing just yet.
Yeah, its nice to see he has some sort of "I should be a good father" morals and a notion of what that means. I'm kinda scared reality and cynicism will hit him like ton of bricks tho.
Having tons of offspring is predominantly a strategy that is chosen when the environment is unstable/poor. When people are better off, they voluntarily choose to have less kids. The reason they choose to (unconsciously) is because it gives them the best odds. The welfare queen is going to start getting genetically outcompeted by people who are actually taking care of fewer kids.
Though just handing out welfare money the way we do isnt a very good or progressive system as far as raising the standard of living.
That makes no sense. Producing tons of doomed offspring wastes a lot of energy and nutrients. It's much better to make them count when resources are scarce, and to pump 'em out when you can eat your fill.
We've already dealt with this guy's lack of biological understanding back on page 8/9, I believe. Anyway something along these lines was commonly taught for a fair while in response to some demographic shifts observable with improved standards of living, but the model has started to break down since then - birth rates are dropping all over with not much connection to standard of living metrics, or even BC access metrics. Its kind of weird, actually. There was something in the Economist about it in a recent issue, IIRC.
Globalization maybe? I don't know - it occurs to me that people these days, wherever they are, are awareof and maybe even desire the world outside their own.
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So, does that mean she might end up growing to be larger than she would normally have been had she not gotten knocked up by the seven year old?
*goes off to google unless someone has an answer for me*
Apparently he wanted a girl that puts out, hotness wasn't a priority. I hear you can't get married in England till your 18, so he has all kinds of time to spread his seed before saying the vows.
Yeah, its nice to see he has some sort of "I should be a good father" morals and a notion of what that means. I'm kinda scared reality and cynicism will hit him like ton of bricks tho.
Testosterone? I think hCG might also play a part in it, since it can stimulate testosterone and progesterone development.
yeah, the kid's attitude about it is in the right place; the problem is he doesn't seem to grasp anywhere near the scope of what having a kid means (which isn't completely his fault, but whatever).
:^: Thanks!
estrogen doesn't neccarily inhibit growth, but it does make the bones fuse faster. Which has the side effect of locking in your height. Hence why women tend to be shorten than men. Less estrogen in men = longer for the bones to fuse.
She's still 15, and a kid. She probably won't look like that in 10 years.
don't forget.. growth hormone :P it controls 30-50% of adult body height
also thyroid hormone
there are also tons of environmental and genetic factors regulating maximum adult height: exercise, nutrition, etc.
She would become entitled to taxpayer-funded handouts — including a free council flat.
The cash would enable her to support Maisie and the baby-faced father until he is old enough to go to work.
The teenage pair are living with Chantelle’s jobless dad Steve, 43, and her five brothers in Eastbourne, East Sussex.
But they could move out once she has left school and leap to the top of the council flat list.
A welfare source said: “If they take this step, Alfie would become her child.
“He could not be recognised as Chantelle’s partner in the eyes of the law because he is only 13. But once she is over 16, she would be in a position to act as his mother.
“If she assumes that role, she would become eligible for all the benefits that go with it.â€
Chantelle would qualify for housing benefit and £33.20 a week child benefit for her baby and boyfriend, plus income support.
wow
Kill them both. Seriously.
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What's a council flat?
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I imagine its a government paid for apartment.
Yes. We should send them to the workhouses instead. That'll teach them not to have lousy parents.
It would help trim the excess population.
When you raise the floor for standard of living up to a certain point, birth rates will naturally slow, as they have in much of Europe.
The thing that the welfare queen wants the most is the thing that eliminates her.
So what about getting more welfare money inhibits people from having more children?
Presumably it's their children who will be less shitty.
because unless you are burying said children under your trailer, you quickly realize that the money you get doesn't begin to make up for their cost.
Though just handing out welfare money the way we do isnt a very good or progressive system as far as raising the standard of living.
The knowledge that your kid is likely to grow up an die from old age rather than malnutrition or malaria.
Bettering society as a whole always leaves room for leeches.
True, but you can't put a price on reduced cholera epidemics.
That makes no sense. Producing tons of doomed offspring wastes a lot of energy and nutrients. It's much better to make them count when resources are scarce, and to pump 'em out when you can eat your fill.
Is this American Gothic, the Great American Story, the Greatest American Story Ever Told?
Sometimes I get confused.
Mom buys the ability to have a shitload of kids on credit all at the same time, government pays for their care while she somehow manages to make millions?
Shit, it's like the American Dream and the Communist Dream all rolled into a big pile of shit stew and mixed metaphors.
Although stew would be a good solution, and would make a good accompaniment to the cold sandwiches.
The whole "shit-load of offspring" theory might make sense in areas with high infant mortality rates... but it's pretty much bunk in any modern case.
And the kid might not be the dad.
And she was banging 8 other kids, apparently.
And... wtf... her mom let boys stay over?