Well, there's also this question for Element Brian:
Does the game automatically end if Phallazak dies?
If it doesn't there are a lot more scenarios to work out.
I doubt there was one of each class, personally. 30% evil seems higher than anything I've seen that works. Generally it seems 25% or so is the sweet spot. Which would give us 7 or 8 baddies with 4 dead. So I'd bet on the 4 or 3 scenario. In which case, we need to hit one if the game ends when Phallazak dies just to be safe.
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Element BrianPeanut Butter ShillRegistered Userregular
I always heard the rule of thumb was about 1:5 evil to regular ratio, giving about 4-6 ninja looters in a game this size. I think we've got the battle rezzor and one or two more at most.
We've killed:
Ohtsam - Rogue (killed twice)
Gumpy - Mage
James - Hunter
TehSloth - Warrior
[Guild] [Element Brian] Everyone has two win conditions their normal phalla win condition, and downing the boss. The Ninja Looters cannot win without meeting the general condition of having more than or equal to the number of villagers left...even after the Boss is down.
[Guild] [Element Brian] In other words you probably want to work together to down him pretty fast...
[Guild] [Element Brian] Also as others have noticed, the more you use your abilities, the more stronger you become and are able to deal more damage or have a better chance of hitting with an ability.
Which I read at the time as meaning the game could keep going after Lord P falls, if the ninjas are not in the majority. But that could also be read as the game ends immediately and ninja looters fail if they aren't in the lead. Either way, I feel confident that we're in the lead and will still be in the lead after this round of deaths. I say you're better off using the extra kill; I don't think it will hurt the village.
WhiteZinfandelYour insidesLet me show you themRegistered Userregular
edited February 2009
1.Jaysonfour
3. Andrew Ryan (good)
7.Macguffin
15.Darian
17.enlightenedbum
21.Stew_stick replaced by frostmist
22.WhiteZInfandel (good)
23.Crimsoncoyote (good? He just absorbed one of phallazak's hits, suggests good)
26.Keika
28.Tehspectre
30.Toxic Toys
We've got few enough people at this point that we can look at every one of them in detail, so let's have at it.
1.Jaysonfour (good; mason if Sticks is to be believed)
3. Andrew Ryan (good)
7.Macguffin
15.Darian (good)
17.enlightenedbum
21.Stew_stick replaced by frostmist
22.WhiteZInfandel (good?)
23.Crimsoncoyote (good? He just absorbed one of phallazak's hits, suggests good)
26.Keika
28.Tehspectre (evil; we're past day 4)
30.Toxic Toys
We've got few enough people at this point that we can look at every one of them in detail, so let's have at it.
[Raid][Spectrian]: Don't be retarded. [Raid][Spectrian]: I may not have a better person to vote for, but voting me because "lolz day 4" is dumb.
[Raid][Spectrian]: Ryan, do you have Downs Syndrome, by chance?
I could also go with the reason that you've yet to contact me even after my repeated envoys for people to do so.
And considering I'm confirmed as good there's really no reason not to. So.. Why not you?
[Raid][Spectrian]: Because I don't have Downs like half the survivors seem to?
[Raid][Spectrian]: I've been borderline inactive this game (and was over in the FF8) so I didn't see your calls for PMs?
[Raid][Spectrian]: I'm a Mage. I cast Frostbolt each night for 20 damage. I can try for a Firebolt (numbers choice) to possibly do 45, and Arcane Missles (another number choice) which does 20 damage per hit (up to 60 if I guess all the numbers)
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WhiteZinfandelYour insidesLet me show you themRegistered Userregular
edited February 2009
Those first two don't exactly inspire confidence, and the last is probably an outright lie anyways. Burn the witch!
See the trouble is Gumpy died a mage.. and if you two were networked there is probably a proboard that has everyone's class PM in it so that you guys can pretend to be whichever class you need to..
I think you're a priest TehSpectre. The evil priest, who isn't healing people like he should.
See the trouble is Gumpy died a mage.. and if you two were networked there is probably a proboard that has everyone's class PM in it so that you guys can pretend to be whichever class you need to..
I think you're a priest TehSpectre. The evil priest, who isn't healing people like he should.
Oh god, no. A Shadow priest?
Kick him, ban him, ignore him.
I've heard he is a ninja looter as well, that's almost as evil as trying to do damage as a priest.
:winky:
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KeikaDelectable tea, or deadly poison?Registered Userregular
See the trouble is Gumpy died a mage.. and if you two were networked there is probably a proboard that has everyone's class PM in it so that you guys can pretend to be whichever class you need to..
I think you're a priest TehSpectre. The evil priest, who isn't healing people like he should.
[Raid][Spectrian]: Are you kidding me?
[Raid][Spectrian]: I was near the top of the DPS charts, not to mention that I put forth the idea that there could be more than one evil of the same class, so I would have no reason to lie about being a Mage.
[Raid][Spectrian]: Your new name is Robert Downsey Jr.
[Raid][Spectrian]: More importantly, you are fucking dense as a rock.
[Raid][Spectrian]: Screw it, I hope you guys get your loot stolen for being so goddamned idiotic that you would base a vote on the "evil if alive after day 4" shit.
Spectrian has logged off.
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WhiteZinfandelYour insidesLet me show you themRegistered Userregular
edited February 2009
After that I'd probably vote him off just on the basis of his being an ass, but thankfully we've got more to go on than that.
As I said, it's not because of day 4 lol, it's because you're in a small minority of people who didn't contact me.
And I called you retarded after you kept the vote on me when it was pretty obvious I was inactive.
I mean, it wouldn't take a scholar to poke through my post history and see I've only made a handful of posts on PA this week, unlike my 20 a day, but hey, no matter.
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WhiteZinfandelYour insidesLet me show you themRegistered Userregular
edited February 2009
A couple of things wrong with this picture:
1. You're an abrasive ass
2. You're inactive
3. You're trying to use being inactive as a defense
3. You're trying to use being inactive as a defense
1. You're dumber than a bag of rocks and I hate you.
2. Voting out inactives does not ever work.
3. He asked why I hadn't contacted him. So yes it is a defense, you fucking dumbshit.
Inactives are bad for the game, whatever their roles. Voting for them works pretty well when the objective is to weed out inactives. Inactivity isn't a defense, it's a reason. I'm sure that is indeed why you didn't contact him, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't kill you.
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Toxic ToysAre you really taking my advice?Really?Registered Userregular
edited February 2009
Well it's day 6. Being inactive is a good way to hide if your mafia.I've seen plenty of game where it has worked for the mafia favor. I would like to see both TehSpectre and Keika gone, but with my only vote I'm going with TehSpectre.
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3. You're trying to use being inactive as a defense
1. You're dumber than a bag of rocks and I hate you.
2. Voting out inactives does not ever work.
3. He asked why I hadn't contacted him. So yes it is a defense, you fucking dumbshit.
Inactives are bad for the game, whatever their roles. Voting for them works pretty well when the objective is to weed out inactives. Inactivity isn't a defense, it's a reason. I'm sure that is indeed why you didn't contact him, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't kill you.
While I was inactive before, I think it is quite obvious that I am around now, I mean, nevermind my huge burst of posting, I am obviously still inactive and hidering the game.
See, there is never a weed out inactives objective. Where has that been an objective?
He. Asked. Me. Why. I. Hadn't. Contacted. Him. I. Said. I. Was. Inactive-ish. Missed. His. Post.
Anything can be a defense, it is ignorant to believe otherwise. For all you know, this is an effort to get the vote off me because I am evil and you've seen through my ruse.
However, if you actually believe that I was inactive, like I have claimed, then your reasons for voting me fall to:
Posts
Does the game automatically end if Phallazak dies?
If it doesn't there are a lot more scenarios to work out.
I doubt there was one of each class, personally. 30% evil seems higher than anything I've seen that works. Generally it seems 25% or so is the sweet spot. Which would give us 7 or 8 baddies with 4 dead. So I'd bet on the 4 or 3 scenario. In which case, we need to hit one if the game ends when Phallazak dies just to be safe.
:winky:
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
We've killed:
Ohtsam - Rogue (killed twice)
Gumpy - Mage
James - Hunter
TehSloth - Warrior
Also, EB said this earlier:
Which I read at the time as meaning the game could keep going after Lord P falls, if the ninjas are not in the majority. But that could also be read as the game ends immediately and ninja looters fail if they aren't in the lead. Either way, I feel confident that we're in the lead and will still be in the lead after this round of deaths. I say you're better off using the extra kill; I don't think it will hurt the village.
3. Andrew Ryan (good)
7.Macguffin
15.Darian
17.enlightenedbum
21.Stew_stick replaced by frostmist
22.WhiteZInfandel (good)
23.Crimsoncoyote (good? He just absorbed one of phallazak's hits, suggests good)
26.Keika
28.Tehspectre
30.Toxic Toys
We've got few enough people at this point that we can look at every one of them in detail, so let's have at it.
!TehSpectre
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[Raid][Spectrian]: I may not have a better person to vote for, but voting me because "lolz day 4" is dumb.
[Raid][Spectrian]: Ryan, do you have Downs Syndrome, by chance?
And considering I'm confirmed as good there's really no reason not to. So.. Why not you?
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Seems like a good reason, but I think Keika is suspiciously quit. TehSpectre, however.
Could you please clean out your PM's Andrew?
[Raid][Spectrian]: I've been borderline inactive this game (and was over in the FF8) so I didn't see your calls for PMs?
[Raid][Spectrian]: I'm a Mage. I cast Frostbolt each night for 20 damage. I can try for a Firebolt (numbers choice) to possibly do 45, and Arcane Missles (another number choice) which does 20 damage per hit (up to 60 if I guess all the numbers)
Ahh well..
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See the trouble is Gumpy died a mage.. and if you two were networked there is probably a proboard that has everyone's class PM in it so that you guys can pretend to be whichever class you need to..
I think you're a priest TehSpectre. The evil priest, who isn't healing people like he should.
naknaknaknaknak
Oh god, no. A Shadow priest?
Kick him, ban him, ignore him.
I've heard he is a ninja looter as well, that's almost as evil as trying to do damage as a priest.
:winky:
Eh, I don't generally talk if I have nothing to say.
!TehSpectre
[Raid][Spectrian]: I was near the top of the DPS charts, not to mention that I put forth the idea that there could be more than one evil of the same class, so I would have no reason to lie about being a Mage.
[Raid][Spectrian]: Your new name is Robert Downsey Jr.
[Raid][Spectrian]: More importantly, you are fucking dense as a rock.
Spectrian has logged off.
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It was fun at first, but people continued to try and kill me post day 4 using the "lol day 4" stuff even after I expected it to stop.
You guys are still retarded as fuck all, but hey, 'is just a game.
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I mean, it wouldn't take a scholar to poke through my post history and see I've only made a handful of posts on PA this week, unlike my 20 a day, but hey, no matter.
1. You're an abrasive ass
2. You're inactive
3. You're trying to use being inactive as a defense
Well.. Warlocks could with soulstones but none of ours made any
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2. Voting out inactives does not ever work.
3. He asked why I hadn't contacted him. So yes it is a valid defense, you fucking dumbshit.
Inactives are bad for the game, whatever their roles. Voting for them works pretty well when the objective is to weed out inactives. Inactivity isn't a defense, it's a reason. I'm sure that is indeed why you didn't contact him, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't kill you.
See, there is never a weed out inactives objective. Where has that been an objective?
He. Asked. Me. Why. I. Hadn't. Contacted. Him. I. Said. I. Was. Inactive-ish. Missed. His. Post.
Anything can be a defense, it is ignorant to believe otherwise. For all you know, this is an effort to get the vote off me because I am evil and you've seen through my ruse.
However, if you actually believe that I was inactive, like I have claimed, then your reasons for voting me fall to:
1) lolz day 4
or
2) Nothing