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  • ascotascot Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Battle of Helms Deep vs the Red River Rebellion

    Battle of Gondor looked better.
    But is beaten by Battle of Endor.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Tossrock wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I love it when three people in a row just say "yur dum" without bothering to provide any sort of justification or counterargument.

    I already provided the counter argument like 25 posts ago and you didn't respond in any meaningful way, and also you are an idiot

    When you said "The Crusades vs. WWII?" Because that was less of a counterargument and more of a baiting. (which I responded to anyway) Are you asking me to compare the casualty count? Are you asking me to compare the ethical reasoning of the Christians to the ethical reasoning of the Americans? Because I was never making an argument about any of that.

    Morally, I'd say the reasons for starting either war were pretty much equivalent, and the reasons the defendants had for responding in kind were pretty much equivalent. Both wars were started because someone wanted some land and geopolitical power and both wars continued because the people who were attacked decided "fuck you, no, this is our stuff." Wars aren't really ever fought over anything else, we just like to play dress-up with our intentions so it sounds more noble.

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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ness445 wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Battle of Helms Deep vs the Red River Rebellion
    Galactic Civil Warr vs. actual United States Civil War

    Civil War vs Secret Invasion

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  • JordynJordyn Really, Commander? Probing Uranus. Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Crisis on Infinite Earths vs. Crisis on Multiple Earths.

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  • Fort1tudeFort1tude Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fort1tude wrote: »
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    Hunter wrote: »
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    PI is compassionate enough not to make fun of you for your wrongness.

    damnit

    i have this strong feeling that im not right but i could have swore i had learned this shit

    man im glad i quit smoking, before i lose any more brain functaerhgbajkd

    Also, if you want to learn about Vietnam, I'll hook you up for an afternoon with my dad and his friends down at the American Legion. After a few rounds, they'll inform you about Nam. Then they'll have agent orange flashbacks and try to eat you.

    agent orange pisses me off anyways

    hay guys lets dump a shit ton of chemicals on your country kthx

    Yes, because removing vegetation using flechettes and daisy cutter bombs was much better.

    you're defending the use of agent orange?
    Fort, don't go down this road.

    honestly im ignorant of why anyone would be for it

    i assume that the total damage done to the ecosystem and to peoples health in the long run is worse than if we had not used it

    EDIT: ok, yea lose lose is right
    Worrying about the ecosystem and the genetic virility of your enemy isn't how you win wars. Agent Orange was seen as a means of shortening the war and, most likely, a way of minimizing casualties. Odds are the White House didn't know what the long term effects of the chemical would be, but they knew that the short term effects would rule in their favor. They probably would have dropped it anyways if they knew exactly what it would do to humans, but that's speculation.

    It doesn't make it right by any means, but when your intention is to protect your own forces while at the same time neutralizing the enemy's, then you're going to drop stuff like Agent Orange. If FDR had something like Agent Orange in WWII, he'd have been seen as an idiot not to drop it. Though, obviously, WWII and 'Nam aren't the same kind of war, but that's with hind-sight and about a million other advantages that they did not have in hte 1960's. . .

    like i said earlier this thread, people rationalize things so they dont think they are doing anything bad

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited February 2009
    Battle of the Planets vs. Battlestar Galactica

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  • LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    World War II vs. World War Z

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Those bubbles are just so fucking stoked to be cleaning for you

    i always wondered what the bubbles did in their off-time

    Work out. Train to kill germs. That kind of thing.

    They get pumped and listen to nationalistic propaganda about whomever they are going to clean for.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Alien vs Predator vs. Batman vs. Superman

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    In summary: LBJ and Nixon were massive dickbags.

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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Man vs Himself vs Man vs Man

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  • ascotascot Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Clone wars doesn't count because they were clones so it's only like killing one person.

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  • Ness445Ness445 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Alien vs Predator vs. Batman vs. Superman
    vs. Freddy vs. Jason

    edit: Vs. Kramer

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ness445 wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Alien vs Predator vs. Batman vs. Superman
    vs. Freddy vs. Jason

    vs Roe vs. Wade

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Tossrock wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I love it when three people in a row just say "yur dum" without bothering to provide any sort of justification or counterargument.

    I already provided the counter argument like 25 posts ago and you didn't respond in any meaningful way, and also you are an idiot

    When you said "The Crusades vs. WWII?" Because that was less of a counterargument and more of a baiting. (which I responded to anyway) Are you asking me to compare the casualty count? Are you asking me to compare the ethical reasoning of the Christians to the ethical reasoning of the Americans? Because I was never making an argument about any of that.

    Morally, I'd say the reasons for starting either war were pretty much equivalent, and the reasons the defendants had for responding in kind were pretty much equivalent. Both wars were started because someone wanted some land and geopolitical power and both wars continued because the people who were attacked decided "fuck you, no, this is our stuff." Wars aren't really ever fought over anything else, we just like to play dress-up with our intentions so it sounds more noble.

    The Crusades weren't imperialistic bro

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    like i said earlier this thread, people rationalize things so they dont think they are doing anything bad
    I guess you got me there! Take that, history!

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  • Fort1tudeFort1tude Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Alien vs Predator vs. Batman vs. Superman

    i think batman vs predator would be a cinematic masterpiece

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    There isn't equivalency between the person who started it and the person "defending" themselves, unless established later by unequal and inappropriate responses. (see Nagasaki, Hiroshima, etc) It's often difficult to pin the blame on "who started it," too.

    But we got involved in Vietnam of our own volition, and we got involved in Iraq of our own volition. Attempting to say one or the other is "worse" on any metric other than how badly we lost (or the cost of winning) is ludicrous, both were perpetrated with the sole aim of maintaining/creating a friendly ally in an unfriendly region.

    So two wars are entirely morally equivalent because our reasons for getting into them, in the most vague and general terms possible, are remotely similar.

    excelsior

    Sorry, did we have any other reasons to get involved in either of these wars?

    Yes? There's WAY more to these wars than "we are attacking them because we do not agree with their ideology." Fiscally, politically, geographically, the mere concept that you think that these wars can be boiled down so simply means that you are a fucking idiot. The mere idea that the idea that the body count means anything as far as morality goes is patently retarded.

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited February 2009
    Baby vs. Lawnmower

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  • JordynJordyn Really, Commander? Probing Uranus. Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Man vs Himself vs Man vs Man

    vs. Nature

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  • Ness445Ness445 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Ness445 wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Alien vs Predator vs. Batman vs. Superman
    vs. Freddy vs. Jason

    vs Roe vs. Wade
    I sincerly hope this is an actual legal battle instead of a regular fight.

    With Judge Judy as the judge.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Alien vs Predator vs. Batman vs. Superman

    i think batman vs predator would be a cinematic masterpiece

    How about Tony Stark vs. A Cave featuring a box of scraps

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  • ascotascot Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Bogey wrote: »
    Baby vs. Lawnmower

    is the lawnmower turned on?

    edit - is the baby turned on?
    (oh god)

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited February 2009
    Nads vs. Easy-Bake Oven

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Monroe if you're saying the Crusades and WW2 are similar because both of the aggressors did what they did because they thought it would help their respective states, then I guess I can give you that.

    But on the other hand that is how ever war starts.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Bogey wrote: »
    Baby vs. Lawnmower

    vs. Rhino

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  • Fort1tudeFort1tude Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    There isn't equivalency between the person who started it and the person "defending" themselves, unless established later by unequal and inappropriate responses. (see Nagasaki, Hiroshima, etc) It's often difficult to pin the blame on "who started it," too.

    But we got involved in Vietnam of our own volition, and we got involved in Iraq of our own volition. Attempting to say one or the other is "worse" on any metric other than how badly we lost (or the cost of winning) is ludicrous, both were perpetrated with the sole aim of maintaining/creating a friendly ally in an unfriendly region.

    So two wars are entirely morally equivalent because our reasons for getting into them, in the most vague and general terms possible, are remotely similar.

    excelsior

    Sorry, did we have any other reasons to get involved in either of these wars?

    Yes? There's WAY more to these wars than "we are attacking them because we do not agree with their ideology." Fiscally, politically, geographically, the mere concept that you think that these wars can be boiled down so simply means that you are a fucking idiot. The mere idea that the idea that the body count means anything as far as morality goes is patently retarded.

    thank you

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  • LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ironman

    vs.

    50 Cent

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Why are any of you still talking to Mr. Monroe? You're arguing with a hobo vomiting in a gutter. This is what you are doing to this thread.

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  • Fort1tudeFort1tude Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    cant we all just agree that war sucks and if some day we stop fucking eachother over it would be pretty cool?

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Why are any of you still talking to Mr. Monroe? You're arguing with a hobo vomiting in a gutter. This is what you are doing to this thread.


    Hobos are almost people too. Like 3/5's.

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Then what'll happen to our ribbon industry?

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    cant we all just agree that war sucks and if some day we stop fucking eachother over it would be pretty cool?

    Think of the stockpiles of weapons going to waste, man.

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  • LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I like how half the thread is people making up fights and the other half is a retard argument about war

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Why are any of you still talking to Mr. Monroe? You're arguing with a hobo vomiting in a gutter. This is what you are doing to this thread.


    Hobos are almost people too. Like 3/5's.
    No that's black people in terms of electoral college votes.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    cant we all just agree that war sucks and if some day we stop fucking eachother over it would be pretty cool?

    No, now be quiet or I'll bomb your heathen ass back to the stone age.

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  • Ness445Ness445 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Why are any of you still talking to Mr. Monroe? You're arguing with a hobo vomiting in a gutter. This is what you are doing to this thread.
    Hobo vs. Gutter

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  • Fort1tudeFort1tude Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Then what'll happen to our ribbon industry?

    what do you think the bailout is really being set up for?

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Are we still saying life lessons

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    Then what'll happen to our ribbon industry?

    what do you think the bailout is really being set up for?
    The Patriots.

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