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[Manipulate On] Dawn of Woe 2 - We have heard the call to war.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Akira wrote: »
    Goomba wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    After IG come in, in the first expansion, I couldn't really care less who gets in. I don't even think tau retarded flying tank bullshit will be so bad, with the smaller unit count.
    Me too. Since I won't ever buy another Relic game again.

    Ever. :x

    You bought Soulstorm, who are you kidding?
    I bought SoulStorm as penance. I... I... not again. :(

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You know, with the fairly recent advent of micro-transactions for video games, such as downloadable content, I think would not think it unreasonable for Relic to make a well done campaign featuring the Orks, Eldar, or Tyranids using the established game engine. I'm not even talking new races here. But I'd pay 10 or 15 bucks for a campaign of equal length to the Space Marines campaign featuring one of the other races.

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  • TraikanTraikan Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm pretty sure the last thing this game needs is new races. Balance the current ones, (if we're lucky) and then let us play for a while with these balanced races.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Traikan wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the last thing this game needs is new races. Balance the current ones, (if we're lucky) and then let us play for a while with these balanced races.

    All it needs is one more unit. Wraithguard.

    After that, they can stop.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    God I suck at this.

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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    Traikan wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the last thing this game needs is new races. Balance the current ones, (if we're lucky) and then let us play for a while with these balanced races.

    All it needs is one more unit. Wraithguard.

    After that, they can stop.

    Replace D-Cannon with Wraithguard and I'll be happy, Eldar shouldn't have platforms at all, give them this and cheaper gates and we're golden.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    After IG come in, in the first expansion, I could really care less who gets in. I don't even think tau retarded flying tank bullshit will be so bad, with the smaller unit count.

    Goddammit, people.

    You couldn't care less. You couldn't. You have reached the rock fucking bottom of caring and can go no lower. If you could care less, then why the fuck are you telling us?

    This is kind of what I'm talking about. I don't care about competitive players. I don't care about rules lawyers. I'm talking about the creepers.

    You log into a forum and you cannot see them, you cannot hear them, you cannot smell then, but you know they're there. You can feel their presence online. And it feels like social awkwardness. It fills the pages, chokes it, makes it unbearable to stay in, and makes you pray that they would just smell. The odor of someone that never bathes or washes the cheeto stains from their fingers is more pleasant than the aura these people emit.

    You compose yourself and carry your suffering psyche over to the dawn of war 2 thread and post about how you would like to see the imperial guard be in an expansion. But they catch sight of you, the lust in their eyes making it known that they've never so much as dreamed of feeling the touch of a man.

    The log out button is not far away, but it feels like several miles with their eyes on you, all encompassing desire the only thing filling their nerd brains. The admin looks normal. Very normal. He only smiles and asks if you need any help or if you're ready.

    "I'm ready," you mumble, the words barely audible over the talking of lesser nerds crying about how the tyranids are overpowered. But you can feel their eyes boring into the back of your skull and their lack of social skills continues to fill the air and drain the life from you.

    Finally, the admin lets you go, smiles again, and tells you to have a nice day. You race out the website. In a walk, of course. You wouldn't want to look like you were running away. Google appears in front of you and you can breathe again. They're gone, still back there. They'd be too afraid to follow you out here.

    But you check your recent history tab. The prospect of returning to play seems more frightening than anything you've ever experienced. So you walk to your backyard for a smoke, the wind chilling your persperation, which is odd, as you didn't realize you were sweating before.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Traikan wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the last thing this game needs is new races. Balance the current ones, (if we're lucky) and then let us play for a while with these balanced races.
    Ha! Good one.

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  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I dunno

    I could care less, but I don't feel the effort is worth it

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Does anyone have any tips on a build order for Marines in a multiplayer game? In a game against the AI I get some squads out and tech up to 2. By the time I get a Dread I am drowning in Killa Kans. Some advice would be appreciated.

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  • JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Akira wrote: »
    Goomba wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    After IG come in, in the first expansion, I couldn't really care less who gets in. I don't even think tau retarded flying tank bullshit will be so bad, with the smaller unit count.
    Me too. Since I won't ever buy another Relic game again.

    Ever. :x

    You bought Soulstorm, who are you kidding?
    only himself.

    JJ on
  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Does anyone have any tips on a build order for Marines in a multiplayer game? In a game against the AI I get some squads out and tech up to 2. By the time I get a Dread I am drowning in Killa Kans. Some advice would be appreciated.
    Scout, tacs, ASM (not against Nids. Get another tac instead), razorback, plasma devs.

    At least that seems to work. Maybe a bolter devestator instead of another tac squad, but that's generally what I see.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Does anyone have any tips on a build order for Marines in a multiplayer game? In a game against the AI I get some squads out and tech up to 2. By the time I get a Dread I am drowning in Killa Kans. Some advice would be appreciated.
    Scout, tacs, ASM (not against Nids. Get another tac instead), razorback, plasma devs.

    At least that seems to work. Maybe a bolter devestator instead of another tac squad, but that's generally what I see.

    It depends on the races you're fighting and on the map, of course. In a 3v3 on the desert map while taking the top or bottom lane, a heavy bolter is invaluable and can be taken first, followed by a tac squad, for instance. Any time the enemy can easily be funneled and baited into your heavy bolter, you have a good map to use one on.

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  • AkiraAkira Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Does anyone have any tips on a build order for Marines in a multiplayer game? In a game against the AI I get some squads out and tech up to 2. By the time I get a Dread I am drowning in Killa Kans. Some advice would be appreciated.
    Scout, tacs, ASM (not against Nids. Get another tac instead), razorback, plasma devs.

    At least that seems to work. Maybe a bolter devestator instead of another tac squad, but that's generally what I see.

    Double tac squad against Tyranids? Well I guess to be fair, the best strategy vs Tyranids is just to lose as quickly as possible so you can get in more games against less ludicrously OP races.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Akira wrote: »
    Goomba wrote: »
    Does anyone have any tips on a build order for Marines in a multiplayer game? In a game against the AI I get some squads out and tech up to 2. By the time I get a Dread I am drowning in Killa Kans. Some advice would be appreciated.
    Scout, tacs, ASM (not against Nids. Get another tac instead), razorback, plasma devs.

    At least that seems to work. Maybe a bolter devestator instead of another tac squad, but that's generally what I see.

    Double tac squad against Tyranids? Well I guess to be fair, the best strategy vs Tyranids is just to lose as quickly as possible so you can get in more games against less ludicrously OP races.
    Tyranids burn good. What do you know, you can't even beat me and I haven't played two 1v1s ever.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Yeah I definitely want Sisters of battle in the first expansion. Preferably against Chaos.

    Although I'm not sure how likely that is considering the sisters were left out in the cold by relic last time

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  • DeadOnArrivalDeadOnArrival Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Akira wrote: »
    Goomba wrote: »
    Does anyone have any tips on a build order for Marines in a multiplayer game? In a game against the AI I get some squads out and tech up to 2. By the time I get a Dread I am drowning in Killa Kans. Some advice would be appreciated.
    Scout, tacs, ASM (not against Nids. Get another tac instead), razorback, plasma devs.

    At least that seems to work. Maybe a bolter devestator instead of another tac squad, but that's generally what I see.

    Double tac squad against Tyranids? Well I guess to be fair, the best strategy vs Tyranids is just to lose as quickly as possible so you can get in more games against less ludicrously OP races.
    Tyranids burn good. What do you know, you can't even beat me and I haven't played two 1v1s ever.

    I'm with Akira here. Tac squads can't beat Warriors for cost and they can easily have more Warriors than you have Tacs. Even if you have as many Tacs as they have Warriors, which is unlikely, you're still fucked.

    Heavy Bolter Devs, Plasma Devs, Scout Snipers, FC with Thunder Hammer & Iron Halo, Dreadnoughts. These will be far more useful, but even then Nids will be imba, especially with the Ravener to fuck up your Dev squads with.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Perhaps they should try to make a Witch Hunter army instead of just SoB

    Then we'd get some pretty interesting units

    Zzulu on
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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    We'd have shit like death cult assassins, SoB, inquisitorial units and saints and grey knights and stuff

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  • Smaug6Smaug6 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Build order when I play space marines for 3 v 3

    Heavy Bolter, if you are planning on staying in your lane through tier 1 (some maps are much more condusive to this than others)
    Upgrade scouts to shotguns
    Cap a power node, throw down 3 power generators
    Tac Squad - don't get the flamer unless you are going against nids.

    Tech to Tier 2.

    Depending on who you are up against upgrade your tac squad wtih a missile launcher or a plasma gun.
    Get a Second Tac squad equip it with plasma or missile launcher depending on what you didn't get.

    After that it really opens up to how the board developed and what your opponents play style is. I usually like to get a razorback next, but on a tight map like capital spire I will often start plasma dev spam or get a dreadnaught.

    Troop transports are your best friends on larger maps, there nothing like screaming around to hotspots with them and a tac squad to give support.

    Get seargents for your marines when you can, but at 25 power a piece, getting one for plasma squad might be all you can afford depending on how tight your power is.

    I am not a big fan of the assualt marines, which everyone will hate on me for, but with an apoc they can slaughter a good amount of things.

    Only go tier 3 when you have enough zeal or approaching end game. The 100 power is better spent on equiping your hero/tac squads.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I know it's almost heretical to speak it, and that the more rabid of the fluff fans would tear my head off for even thinking it, but I think it would be kind of cool to have an original race. A 1st encounter with a new faction (and throw in Chaos some how to make sure someone's happy). And if the new race is successful and fleshed out it could get converted into a real table top army.

    It'll never ever happen, I'm sure. But it would be kind of neat but with so many playable armies already in the table top game I guess you'd then be risking too much dilution.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Is there some kind of trick to getting gear? Because damn this is all from one level and it all dropped practically at the same time:

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    The shit was crazy loots.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    In 3v3's as SM I pretty much only build tac squads and focus on upgrading my commander

    If I feel it necessary, I'll get myself a plasma devastator as well, and if I have resources to burn needlessly, a few predators

    But usually the tacs fulfill my needs throughout all tiers

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Raslin wrote: »
    Pancake wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    After IG come in, in the first expansion, I could really care less who gets in. I don't even think tau retarded flying tank bullshit will be so bad, with the smaller unit count.

    Goddammit, people.

    You couldn't care less. You couldn't. You have reached the rock fucking bottom of caring and can go no lower. If you could care less, then why the fuck are you telling us?

    This is kind of what I'm talking about. I don't care about competitive players. I don't care about rules lawyers. I'm talking about the creepers.

    You log into a forum and you cannot see them, you cannot hear them, you cannot smell then, but you know they're there. You can feel their presence online. And it feels like social awkwardness. It fills the pages, chokes it, makes it unbearable to stay in, and makes you pray that they would just smell. The odor of someone that never bathes or washes the cheeto stains from their fingers is more pleasant than the aura these people emit.

    You compose yourself and carry your suffering psyche over to the dawn of war 2 thread and post about how you would like to see the imperial guard be in an expansion. But they catch sight of you, the lust in their eyes making it known that they've never so much as dreamed of feeling the touch of a man.

    The log out button is not far away, but it feels like several miles with their eyes on you, all encompassing desire the only thing filling their nerd brains. The admin looks normal. Very normal. He only smiles and asks if you need any help or if you're ready.

    "I'm ready," you mumble, the words barely audible over the talking of lesser nerds crying about how the tyranids are overpowered. But you can feel their eyes boring into the back of your skull and their lack of social skills continues to fill the air and drain the life from you.

    Finally, the admin lets you go, smiles again, and tells you to have a nice day. You race out the website. In a walk, of course. You wouldn't want to look like you were running away. Google appears in front of you and you can breathe again. They're gone, still back there. They'd be too afraid to follow you out here.

    But you check your recent history tab. The prospect of returning to play seems more frightening than anything you've ever experienced. So you walk to your backyard for a smoke, the wind chilling your persperation, which is odd, as you didn't realize you were sweating before.

    <3

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    <3
    I get this post even less than Raslin's. All I know is that Raslin is really bad at the nerdcore thing, which is saying a lot since nerdcore is bad to begin with.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    i'm feeling gassy today

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    <3
    I get this post even less than Raslin's. All I know is that Raslin is really bad at the nerdcore thing, which is saying a lot since nerdcore is bad to begin with.


    Raslin is just making fun of a post Pancake made on page... 6 I think?

    Regardless, the nerd snobbery in this thread is completely hilarious, but I'm really only reading this thread because I can't get in multiplayer games :(

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  • skaceskace Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    These tyranids are raping all my territories at once... that's not fair....

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  • DeadOnArrivalDeadOnArrival Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    <3
    I get this post even less than Raslin's. All I know is that Raslin is really bad at the nerdcore thing, which is saying a lot since nerdcore is bad to begin with.


    Raslin is just making fun of a post Pancake made on page... 6 I think?

    Regardless, the nerd snobbery in this thread is completely hilarious, but I'm really only reading this thread because I can't get in multiplayer games :(

    Not all nerds were created equal!

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    <3
    I get this post even less than Raslin's. All I know is that Raslin is really bad at the nerdcore thing, which is saying a lot since nerdcore is bad to begin with.


    Raslin is just making fun of a post Pancake made on page... 6 I think?

    Regardless, the nerd snobbery in this thread is completely hilarious, but I'm really only reading this thread because I can't get in multiplayer games :(

    It's kind of a dumb thing to make fun of since it was meant to be humorous to begin with. You're probably kind of an idiot if you thought it wasn't exaggerated and I was nerdraging at all the nerds beneath me.

    But I'm an editor by trade. It's what I do for a living. And things like "I could care less" irritate me to no end.

    I also get the feeling you and Raslin are the sort of people I was writing about.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I couldn't care less about how you could care more about the proper use of "could care less" in a thread about Dawn of War II, where a majority couldn't care less about you caring about a grammatical point.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    <3
    I get this post even less than Raslin's. All I know is that Raslin is really bad at the nerdcore thing, which is saying a lot since nerdcore is bad to begin with.


    Raslin is just making fun of a post Pancake made on page... 6 I think?

    Regardless, the nerd snobbery in this thread is completely hilarious, but I'm really only reading this thread because I can't get in multiplayer games :(
    Hanging out on vent is more effective, then. The thread is basically "The game is broken because..." or "The game needs..." or "The next race should be..." or "How should I level up my guys in the campaign?" Nobody really plays talks about getting games in here except for "get in vent for 3v3s!"

    ""
    I couldn't care less about how you could care more about the proper use of "could care less" in a thread about Dawn of War II, where a majority couldn't care less about you caring about a grammatical point.
    Stay on topic, please.

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  • verpakeyesverpakeyes Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I couldn't care less about how you could care more about the proper use of "could care less" in a thread about Dawn of War II, where a majority couldn't care less about you caring about a grammatical point.

    Thank you



    So how about that thar DOW2.

    I think GFWL was a bad choice on relics part, if for no other reason than that it has prevented them from releasing patches as quickly as they could have.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    verpakeyes wrote: »
    I think GFWL was a bad choice on relics part, if for no other reason than that it has prevented them from releasing patches as quickly as they could have.
    Instead of a month, it'll take a month and a week!

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  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    THREAD IS DEVOLVING
    ...
    ...
    CONGRATULATION! YOUR THREAD HAS BECOME RAICHU!

    Rename Raichu y/n?

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    verpakeyes wrote: »
    I couldn't care less about how you could care more about the proper use of "could care less" in a thread about Dawn of War II, where a majority couldn't care less about you caring about a grammatical point.

    Thank you



    So how about that thar DOW2.

    I think GFWL was a bad choice on relics part, if for no other reason than that it has prevented them from releasing patches as quickly as they could have.

    They would most likely still want their game to be Games For Windows certified. That would still delay the patches, I'm pretty sure.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    GFWL is better than Relic Online, where they didn't release patches quickly anyway.

    Also I find it kinda nice having the GFWL buddy list available whenever as well as the Steam one.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This thread would be a Raichu and now its a pikachu. On the topic of Threat Name, why the fuck is it called Dawn of Our folly 2? Stupid thread names are one of the reasons the TF2 thread got locked down I think.

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  • verpakeyesverpakeyes Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    verpakeyes wrote: »
    I think GFWL was a bad choice on relics part, if for no other reason than that it has prevented them from releasing patches as quickly as they could have.
    Instead of a month, it'll take a month and a week!

    Im giving Relic the benefit of the doubt. They have said that this game was specifically designed to patch faster, and that they learned from previous mistakes in there internal process that made them patch slowly.

    Its just seems stupid to fix the internal stuff that was slowing you down, and add a external party to slow you down instead.

    But maybe they were lying about the quick patching stuff.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This thread would be a Raichu and now its a pikachu. On the topic of Threat Name, why the fuck is it called Dawn of Our folly 2? Stupid thread names are one of the reasons the TF2 thread got locked down I think.

    It's a stupid Eldar name. I went with something else but it was pointed out it was the name of another game. I've been too apathetic to change it to something more topical.

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