MOTW 3-18-09: um....Mahnke on GL is pretty great...

TexiKen

Kind of a light week, nothing eye catching or "wow"

The first issue of Azrael ties into Morrison's Batman run, and was pretty good, coming from someone who has never read an Azrael issue.

Um.... I guess MOTW was Outsiders #16, where the team sets up how they're going to roll, and Metamorpho describes the team in relation to Batman. The big baddie also has a somewhat stupid premise, but for some reason it works. Scans below:

edit: fixed it right away, duh

Virral

You fail Posting Spoilers 101. The top tag is broken with an unnecessary /

Fencingsax

...If they're going to have that, why didn't they just have Plastic Man on the team instead of Rex?

Fiaryn

Alright I laughed pretty hard at that last panel from Outsiders there.

I might need to start reading it again.

PaperFootball

You can tell how great Old Man Logan is by how mad I am at how short the issues seem

Virral

TexiKen wrote: »

edit: fixed it right away, duh

Haven't fixed the double posted page yet though

TexiKen

Virral wrote: »

TexiKen wrote: »

edit: fixed it right away, duh

Haven't fixed the double posted page yet though

Fixed, gaw

At least I brought pages for everyone to rejoice with.
You just sit on your biscuit, never having to risk it, with your cushy nerf ball life.
....I was watching the Office last night, so what.


On a serious note, Scans_Daily today has instituted a no PAD rule, somewhat at his request but also to not get in trouble in the future.

Also, someone at the Gun Show did some Watchment cartoons that are pretty funny, with Rorschach being a kid:

wirehead26

The art in Old Man Logan is my MotW. Damn McNiven outdid himself with this one.

Servo

old man logan was very interesting. i was sick of waiting for it too, and just asking the guy in my shop about it last week.

emma marrying doom was neat. also hawkeye is the new star of john woo's "bullet in the head"!

kfrooster

X-Force was pretty badass this week.

And I guess there goes Boom Boom.

TexiKen

kfrooster wrote: »

X-Force was pretty badass this week.

And I guess there goes Boom Boom.

Would you say Boom-Boom goes the dynamite?

Drakeon

Servo wrote: »

old man logan was very interesting. i was sick of waiting for it too, and just asking the guy in my shop about it last week.

emma marrying doom was neat. also hawkeye is the new star of john woo's "bullet in the head"!

She married Doom? I took it to mean she married Black Bolt.

DarkWarrior

What a horrendously awful future Old Man Logan is in.

Skull murdered all the heroes?

God. I hate alternate futures, all the worst shit that can happen to your heroes happens.

Munch

kfrooster wrote: »

X-Force was pretty badass this week.

And I guess there goes Boom Boom.

I just read the wiki summary. How terribly retarded. I already hated Yost and Kyle for slaughtering most of the characters in New X-Men and stealing Wolfsbane from X-Factor. Offing a character that had been so recently rehabilitated and made cool just comes off as amazingly wasteful and, well, dumb.

durandal4532

The end of Old Man Logan is going to be a close-up shot of Eminem telling you how tight your asshole is.

Edit:

I figure Boom Boom can be protected forever by Next Wave. Enough weird shit happened in that that in some form or another you can resurrect her whenever you feel like it. Still though, I hate it when shitty little deaths happen in comics. It adds to a story no one's reading, it feels out of place since no one ever dies, it's dumb. You can have them take sabbaticals, dudes.

Faynor

Re: Wolverine

I didn't get the Emma marrying Doom thing at all, but in hind sight it makes a little sense. I just took it as he was watching them. I liked that Emma still makes it appear she's young, pretty in character. I wish they would have shown some of the other heroes that still survived, along with Emma and Blackbolt, though. Piqued my curiosity.

Edit: Oh yeah. And I loved Osborn's pep talk to Bob in Dark Avengers. That was pretty sheisty. The way he was talking to him, not sure if that dispels the whole theory on

the Void helping Osborn, rather than the Sentry.

noir_blood

So are you advocating that no one ever die in comics, seeing as they will come back in one way or another?

I haven't read the issue, so for all I know it really is meaningless and all, but shouldn't we give the writers a chance and see if they follow through with the death and what it means to the others that are still alive?

Faynor

noir_blood wrote: »

So are you advocating that no one ever die in comics, seeing as they will come back in one way or another?

I haven't read the issue, so for all I know it really is meaningless and all, but shouldn't we give the writers a chance and see if they follow through with the death and what it means to the others that are still alive?

Kyle and Yost tend to be butchers, though, and there are plenty of characters they could have used to similar affect. It's not like Boom Boom's even been in the story at this point. They could have just offed another no-namer like the Whispering Child or whoever was first. Or they could have just had the Leper Queen die and leave Tabby alive. It seemed awful pointless, and just served to make Scott to loook even more like a gigantic tool.

Sars_Boy

i don't know it would have been pretty dumb if a bunch of religious nut killers attacked the x-mansion and no one died

deadonthestreet

There are no writers I hate more than Kyle and Yost.

I am absolutely terrified of what is going to happen to Runaways. Bye bye Karolina, probably.

Sars_Boy wrote: »

i don't know it would have been pretty dumb if a bunch of religious nut killers attacked the x-mansion and no one died

It was basically an excuse to kill off the characters that fans liked but they didn't want to write about.

durandal4532

Look, it's pretty dumb that the streets of Marvel New York aren't running red with blood 24/7. I can accept it. It annoys me is when a character, maybe B or C-list but still decent, is just offed.

"Oh no Monica Rambeau can't be in XYZ, the Ultimatoritax bit her head off in that one arc of a comic read by 20,000 people"

I mean, you can have it open up new stories, like Cap's death did. But usually it doesn't, it just shuts down old ones.

werehippy

It's not just that it was pointless, or that they pulled in a character people actually like for all of 5 pages for this cheap throw away, even within the context fo the story it's stupid.

There's no version of time travel that work like that. Once you know where you're going, there's no rush to actually leave here. If I'm going to the year 3000, it doesn't matter if I go now or if I go tomorrow morning, I'm still going to the same destination.

I loved the hell out of post-House of M New X-men, but this was annoying.

Bloods End

Ultimatum is amazing.

It's like every bad decision that could be made is being made, and wrapped up in a big bag of terrible writing and horrid art.

It's TLB's dream project.

Sars_Boy

deadonthestreet wrote: »

There are no writers I hate more than Kyle and Yost.

I am absolutely terrified of what is going to happen to Runaways. Bye bye Karolina, probably.

Sars_Boy wrote: »

i don't know it would have been pretty dumb if a bunch of religious nut killers attacked the x-mansion and no one died

It was basically an excuse to kill off the characters that fans liked but they didn't want to write about.

or it could have been that they were telling a decent story with it

i loved New X-Men

The Lovely Bastard

that was just low Blood's End

(my dream project is a Herbie/Stardust the Super Wizard/Haunted Tank team-up ongoing)

Sars_Boy

werehippy wrote: »

It's not just that it was pointless, or that they pulled in a character people actually like for all of 5 pages for this cheap throw away, even within the context fo the story it's stupid.

There's no version of time travel that work like that. Once you know where you're going, there's no rush to actually leave here. If I'm going to the year 3000, it doesn't matter if I go now or if I go tomorrow morning, I'm still going to the same destination.

I loved the hell out of post-House of M New X-men, but this was annoying.

no one gave a fuck about Tabitha before or after Nextwave and Nextwave is over forever so i didn't really care at all

Drakeon

Bloods End wrote: »

Ultimatum is amazing.

It's like every bad decision that could be made is being made, and wrapped up in a big bag of terrible writing and horrid art.

It's TLB's dream project.

It really is laughably terrible. I'm debating on whether or not to keep getting it just to see what outrageous thing Loeb does next

What was Hank Pyms death for? He just took a whole bunch of Madrox dupes on to himself to die? What? Thats not even touching on the biting off of blobs head or any other amount of absurd things that happened in it.

The Lovely Bastard

sars you shut your mouth

Sars_Boy

why is it because the truth hurts

The Lovely Bastard

no because shut up

mattharvest

Can you spoil Ultimatum for me please? I"m completely unwilling to even point money in Loeb's direction.

stratslinger

You know, as soon as I saw that last panel in X-Force, I thought

Scott is going to have a VERY unpleasant reunion with Logan once X-Force returns from the future.

I really look forward to that.

Also, now when the hell will we actually get around to the end of Old Man Logan? I'm really digging the story, but the fact that every issue (well, to be honest, every issue after the 3rd or 4th) seems to end with a cliffhanger followed by 2-3 months waiting for its resolution is starting to wear thin...

Bloods End

mattharvest wrote: »

Can you spoil Ultimatum for me please? I"m completely unwilling to even point money in Loeb's direction.

IGN has a decent write up on how bad it is

http://comics.ign.com/articles/963/963850p1.html

Munch

Sars_Boy wrote: »

no one gave a fuck about Tabitha before or after Nextwave and Nextwave is over forever so i didn't really care at all

She actually appeared in a story with Beast that was pretty awesome. The character had basically just been rebuilt from the ground up, so killing her now is just annoying as fuck. It's like killing Machine Man just after he's had a resurgence in popularity. Sure you can say, "Oh well no-one cared about him before or after Nextwave, and Nextwave's never coming back, so why not kill him?" Maybe because he's actually an interesting character now?

psycojester

Bloods End wrote: »

mattharvest wrote: »

Can you spoil Ultimatum for me please? I"m completely unwilling to even point money in Loeb's direction.

IGN has a decent write up on how bad it is

http://comics.ign.com/articles/963/963850p1.html

Now theres a tag line for them, Ultimatum: A comic so terrible not even IGN could like it.

Drakeon

It's comforting to know that someone else hates Ultimatum just as much as I do (well, and reviewed it for more to see).

I still don't know why Marvel thought letting Jeph Loeb handle this event to reboot the Ultimate universe was the best idea.

Also unrelated note: Anyone else notice the push Deadpool has been getting lately? I can only assume this means that they plan for Ryan Reynolds to be received well in the upcoming Wolverine Origins and spin off a Deadpool movie of him. I mean, I've been a fan of his since the start of Joe Kellys run, and he's never received this kind of attention before.

DarkWarrior

Hooooooly shit. Have you guys seen the promo cover for Wolverine 72?

No pic, just description

Captain America with his skull made to look like the Red Skull. Looks like hes alive. Could just be the red skull in that outfit but he looks insane/in pain to me.

JoeUser

Sars_Boy wrote: »

werehippy wrote: »

It's not just that it was pointless, or that they pulled in a character people actually like for all of 5 pages for this cheap throw away, even within the context fo the story it's stupid.

There's no version of time travel that work like that. Once you know where you're going, there's no rush to actually leave here. If I'm going to the year 3000, it doesn't matter if I go now or if I go tomorrow morning, I'm still going to the same destination.

I loved the hell out of post-House of M New X-men, but this was annoying.

no one gave a fuck about Tabitha before or after Nextwave and Nextwave is over forever so i didn't really care at all

My moment of the week is finally buying the Nextwave trades, so now I'm sad.

desc

I don't really have a moment of the week.

Re: Boom Boom.

It seemed like a pointless way for the story to seem tough and grim, which I understand is sort of the point of X-force, but ... like Werehippy said, they're about to TIME TRAVEL. What difference does it make if they jump into the future now, or 10 minutes after freeing the hostage/their former teammate? Why would Scott spontaneously become stupid? Handle hostage #1, send team to future, let them prance around with Bishop and Cable, send them back to the moment after they left, and tell them to head to the UN building to handle hostages #2 and #3 to prevent the explosion. If they come back two issues from now and then undo her death, I will not be impressed.

Plus, Iron Man just did a superior people-as-organic-bombs story recently. So meh.

Uncanny X-Men --

So Scott tells the Mayor it's not a militia, but an army. Hmm. For a while I thought writers were going to take Scott on some badly mis-timed Jack Bauer nonsense, now I just kind of wonder what the plan is.

SatanIsMyMotor

DarkWarrior wrote: »

Hooooooly shit. Have you guys seen the promo cover for Wolverine 72?

No pic, just description

Captain America with his skull made to look like the Red Skull. Looks like hes alive. Could just be the red skull in that outfit but he looks insane/in pain to me.

Uh, that's just the Redskull wearing cap's mask.

Crimsondude

Although DW's interpretation is an idea so crazy that I could legitimately see Millar considering.

DarkWarrior wrote: »

What a horrendously awful future Old Man Logan is in.

Skull murdered all the heroes?

God. I hate alternate futures, all the worst shit that can happen to your heroes happens.

Is there any future that Marvel has shown that doesn't involve all of the heroes getting killed in the early 21st century?