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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Sakeido wrote: »
    Anybody else here play Fuerte? I'm not great with him but I've decided that he is probably one of the most fun characters to play in the game.. the fight can be tough going, then you score your first knockdown, and Fuerte has just the sickest wakeup game. Even moreso considering that most other characters don't have a lot of options on wakeup, while Fuerte has like a dozen awesome ones. But the appeal of dashing around, canceling dashes so he just vibrates on the spot, then suddenly jumping at ridiculous speed off the wall into a combo into super, man oh man. Having a powerful ultra that can punish any jump (even a jump out!), fireballs, whiffed anything, all that is a nice bonus too..

    I'm still trying to come up with another char to learn, so far Ken is my main, then Abel's kind of my off-main, maybe Fuerte will be #3.. or maybe Cammy

    His ultra was super annoying and scary until I learned I could just dash forward and dodge the whole thing. And then when the light bulb came on to Focus against wake up tostada presses...well. I haven't lost to a Fuerte in a while on ranked. He's so weak (vitality wise).

    On the other hand, I like Cammy way more and consider her my second best. I might be biased because I manage to play all chicks (who generally have terrible ultras, now that I think about it.)

    Ok that's it, you are clearly my doppelganger from another universe and I must destroy you now.

    You're from the scary alternate universe known as "PS3" sir.

    I think the all chicks thing is just that video game bias where chicks are always thin, fast and top heavy. I like quick characters over strong ones.

    I dunno about top heavy, the SF chicks don't look all retarded and inflated like the SC girls. But yeah, it's more of a fast character thing, though I dislike feilong so i'll never play him.

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  • eekeek Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fastest character in the game is a really fat dude. He's also really top heavy, but that's more moobs than anything.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    TheStig wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Sakeido wrote: »
    Anybody else here play Fuerte? I'm not great with him but I've decided that he is probably one of the most fun characters to play in the game.. the fight can be tough going, then you score your first knockdown, and Fuerte has just the sickest wakeup game. Even moreso considering that most other characters don't have a lot of options on wakeup, while Fuerte has like a dozen awesome ones. But the appeal of dashing around, canceling dashes so he just vibrates on the spot, then suddenly jumping at ridiculous speed off the wall into a combo into super, man oh man. Having a powerful ultra that can punish any jump (even a jump out!), fireballs, whiffed anything, all that is a nice bonus too..

    I'm still trying to come up with another char to learn, so far Ken is my main, then Abel's kind of my off-main, maybe Fuerte will be #3.. or maybe Cammy

    His ultra was super annoying and scary until I learned I could just dash forward and dodge the whole thing. And then when the light bulb came on to Focus against wake up tostada presses...well. I haven't lost to a Fuerte in a while on ranked. He's so weak (vitality wise).

    On the other hand, I like Cammy way more and consider her my second best. I might be biased because I manage to play all chicks (who generally have terrible ultras, now that I think about it.)

    Ok that's it, you are clearly my doppelganger from another universe and I must destroy you now.

    You're from the scary alternate universe known as "PS3" sir.

    I think the all chicks thing is just that video game bias where chicks are always thin, fast and top heavy. I like quick characters over strong ones.

    I dunno about top heavy, the SF chicks don't look all retarded and inflated like the SC girls. But yeah, it's more of a fast character thing, though I dislike feilong so i'll never play him.

    I don't like his qcf punch attack and reverse srk motion for his flaming kick just strikes me as stupid. And they're definitely more realistic than the SC girls, even if I think that there's no way that Cammy would fight in nothing but a leotard.

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  • SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Sakeido wrote: »
    Anybody else here play Fuerte? I'm not great with him but I've decided that he is probably one of the most fun characters to play in the game.. the fight can be tough going, then you score your first knockdown, and Fuerte has just the sickest wakeup game. Even moreso considering that most other characters don't have a lot of options on wakeup, while Fuerte has like a dozen awesome ones. But the appeal of dashing around, canceling dashes so he just vibrates on the spot, then suddenly jumping at ridiculous speed off the wall into a combo into super, man oh man. Having a powerful ultra that can punish any jump (even a jump out!), fireballs, whiffed anything, all that is a nice bonus too..

    I'm still trying to come up with another char to learn, so far Ken is my main, then Abel's kind of my off-main, maybe Fuerte will be #3.. or maybe Cammy

    His ultra was super annoying and scary until I learned I could just dash forward and dodge the whole thing. And then when the light bulb came on to Focus against wake up tostada presses...well. I haven't lost to a Fuerte in a while on ranked. He's so weak (vitality wise).

    On the other hand, I like Cammy way more and consider her my second best. I might be biased because I manage to play all chicks (who generally have terrible ultras, now that I think about it.)

    Ahh but if they know to focus the press, you start using the throw instead or IIRC the quesedilla bomb is armor breaking. Then if they start jumping, you use the anti-air throw or ultra as they land. The ultra definitely doesn't work if the other guy is on the ground, you have to use it just after the apex of their jump since it will land on somebody that is still a little ways off the ground. The guy is just a beast once he's put you down the first time and if you can aim his moves just right.

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  • SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Snare wrote: »
    Sakeido, I really really liked Fuerte for my first about 20 games with him, then the people I played with really saw me coming and I found it hard to get in. That's totally my fault, and 20 games is hardly any experience but I could see the struggle and it put me off quite early.

    I still think he's a better character than Cammy though. I use Rufus, Ken and Abel so I'm kinda coming from the same background as you! :D

    I tried the whole Rufus thing but couldn't get into it :lol: I'm going to take another stab at it but I think Fuerte will be the next guy where I go through and learn all his moves and combos.

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  • eekeek Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Reverse motion for Fei Long's flame kick is the best thing about him. 100% safe wake ups are good.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's almost time for a new thread.

    Manaaaaaleak!!

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dover did that tournament wrap up yet? I want to be in the next one!

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  • aBlankaBlank Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Sakeido wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Sakeido wrote: »
    Anybody else here play Fuerte? I'm not great with him but I've decided that he is probably one of the most fun characters to play in the game.. the fight can be tough going, then you score your first knockdown, and Fuerte has just the sickest wakeup game. Even moreso considering that most other characters don't have a lot of options on wakeup, while Fuerte has like a dozen awesome ones. But the appeal of dashing around, canceling dashes so he just vibrates on the spot, then suddenly jumping at ridiculous speed off the wall into a combo into super, man oh man. Having a powerful ultra that can punish any jump (even a jump out!), fireballs, whiffed anything, all that is a nice bonus too..

    I'm still trying to come up with another char to learn, so far Ken is my main, then Abel's kind of my off-main, maybe Fuerte will be #3.. or maybe Cammy

    His ultra was super annoying and scary until I learned I could just dash forward and dodge the whole thing. And then when the light bulb came on to Focus against wake up tostada presses...well. I haven't lost to a Fuerte in a while on ranked. He's so weak (vitality wise).

    On the other hand, I like Cammy way more and consider her my second best. I might be biased because I manage to play all chicks (who generally have terrible ultras, now that I think about it.)

    Ahh but if they know to focus the press, you start using the throw instead or IIRC the body splash is armor breaking. Then if they start jumping, you use the anti-air throw or ultra as they land. The ultra definitely doesn't work if the other guy is on the ground, you have to use it just after the apex of their jump since it will land on somebody that is still a little ways off the ground. The guy is just a beast once he's put you down the first time and if you can aim his moves just right.

    Body slash (from the run series) isn't armor breaking. His hold K charge attack is armor breaking though, not sure if you meant that or not. (EDIT) damn your tricky edit skills!

    FA's seem to work incredibly well against Fuerte. Throws are still a threat, but if you've conditioned him into throwing out of all of his runs, you can just switch up and start countering that. It's all mind games from here though.

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  • StokedUpStokedUp Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fei long isn't that bad. He's just very different from other characters in that his combos are kind of odd, he has an easy jump in ultra if the opponent is careless with laggy moves and his command grab has the potential to be useful, but its just too slow and does not have enough range to really make him shine the way the developpers could have. I think he was a bit rushed and IF there is a patch to change some characters things, he should be considered, because he does not get enough love. Him and Rose (for instance her scarf reflect or w.e should juggle, which would make her waaaay more viable for comboezzz).

    Oh yeah and after I watched that quick charge video I really want to pick up Balrog. I'd like Guile but this is my first charge character "attempt" so i'm taking it slow, toes in first. :D If anyone wants to challenge, i'm online.

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  • SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    aBlank wrote: »
    Sakeido wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Sakeido wrote: »
    Anybody else here play Fuerte? I'm not great with him but I've decided that he is probably one of the most fun characters to play in the game.. the fight can be tough going, then you score your first knockdown, and Fuerte has just the sickest wakeup game. Even moreso considering that most other characters don't have a lot of options on wakeup, while Fuerte has like a dozen awesome ones. But the appeal of dashing around, canceling dashes so he just vibrates on the spot, then suddenly jumping at ridiculous speed off the wall into a combo into super, man oh man. Having a powerful ultra that can punish any jump (even a jump out!), fireballs, whiffed anything, all that is a nice bonus too..

    I'm still trying to come up with another char to learn, so far Ken is my main, then Abel's kind of my off-main, maybe Fuerte will be #3.. or maybe Cammy

    His ultra was super annoying and scary until I learned I could just dash forward and dodge the whole thing. And then when the light bulb came on to Focus against wake up tostada presses...well. I haven't lost to a Fuerte in a while on ranked. He's so weak (vitality wise).

    On the other hand, I like Cammy way more and consider her my second best. I might be biased because I manage to play all chicks (who generally have terrible ultras, now that I think about it.)

    Ahh but if they know to focus the press, you start using the throw instead or IIRC the body splash is armor breaking. Then if they start jumping, you use the anti-air throw or ultra as they land. The ultra definitely doesn't work if the other guy is on the ground, you have to use it just after the apex of their jump since it will land on somebody that is still a little ways off the ground. The guy is just a beast once he's put you down the first time and if you can aim his moves just right.

    Body slash (from the run series) isn't armor breaking. His hold K charge attack is armor breaking though, not sure if you meant that or not. (EDIT) damn your tricky edit skills!

    FA's seem to work incredibly well against Fuerte. Throws are still a threat, but if you've conditioned him into throwing out of all of his runs, you can just switch up and start countering that. It's all mind games from here though.

    heehee I couldn't remember what the one I was thinking of was called right away. That's the thing with Fuerte tho.. just tons of mind games. Crazy mixups. Even canceling the run or doing the little jump away to make a shoryuken whiff is important, and apparently, there is a combo you can use to punish a missed dragon punch that is a guaranteed 100% stun but I haven't been able to find out what it is. There is his infinite and that too. A good Fuerte needs technical skill almost to the same degree C Viper does and really needs to be on his toes with the mind games.. so he's probably not the best char for me but I'm going to give it a shot anyway :lol:

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    On the topic of Fuerte:

    Mailarde has a pretty darn solid El Fuerte. Everytime I play him he improves his game just a little bit more. He knows when to play the wake-up game, he knows when to bait you, and last time I played him he hit me with something like 10 out of 11 Ultras or something equally ridiculous. I suggest that if you want to learn some nifty ElF tricks then you play against this guy.

    I just wish I could decide on a character to main. I play half the roster and I can't give anyone character the time I need to to really improve my game to the point where I can really compete with some of the better players here. I've been playing more Sakura and Rufus lately, but I doing pretty well with Blanka and getting better with Viper. Cammy is still an attractive option too ( :winky: ) and I suppose I do alright with Honda... but this is what I'm talking about. Too many characters to play not enough focus on my part. I need to play more...

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Sakeido wrote: »
    Anybody else here play Fuerte? I'm not great with him but I've decided that he is probably one of the most fun characters to play in the game.. the fight can be tough going, then you score your first knockdown, and Fuerte has just the sickest wakeup game. Even moreso considering that most other characters don't have a lot of options on wakeup, while Fuerte has like a dozen awesome ones. But the appeal of dashing around, canceling dashes so he just vibrates on the spot, then suddenly jumping at ridiculous speed off the wall into a combo into super, man oh man. Having a powerful ultra that can punish any jump (even a jump out!), fireballs, whiffed anything, all that is a nice bonus too..

    I'm still trying to come up with another char to learn, so far Ken is my main, then Abel's kind of my off-main, maybe Fuerte will be #3.. or maybe Cammy

    His ultra was super annoying and scary until I learned I could just dash forward and dodge the whole thing. And then when the light bulb came on to Focus against wake up tostada presses...well. I haven't lost to a Fuerte in a while on ranked. He's so weak (vitality wise).

    On the other hand, I like Cammy way more and consider her my second best. I might be biased because I manage to play all chicks (who generally have terrible ultras, now that I think about it.)

    Ok that's it, you are clearly my doppelganger from another universe and I must destroy you now.

    You're from the scary alternate universe known as "PS3" sir.

    I think the all chicks thing is just that video game bias where chicks are always thin, fast and top heavy. I like quick characters over strong ones.

    I dunno about top heavy, the SF chicks don't look all retarded and inflated like the SC girls. But yeah, it's more of a fast character thing, though I dislike feilong so i'll never play him.

    I don't like his qcf punch attack and reverse srk motion for his flaming kick just strikes me as stupid. And they're definitely more realistic than the SC girls, even if I think that there's no way that Cammy would fight in nothing but a leotard.

    No one can accuse Chun of being top heavy. She probably has the lowest center of gravity out of the entire SF cast.

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  • ShujaaShujaa Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Who can surprisingly turn into a self propelled aircraft at will.

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So quick question concerning Balrog and Vega. How do you choose what Ultra or Super comes out as Balrog? I've seen the straight punches one and the uppercut one but I can't figure out how to do one or the other. And with Vega how do you choose what wall to jump to?

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  • SludgeFactorySludgeFactory Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Taramoor wrote: »
    An interesting situation has occurred.

    Occasionally I'll receive friend requests from people that I beat or have good fights with on Xbox Live. Even more occasionally, I'll accept them.

    One such guy, we'll call him "K Epix" because that's his GT, sent me a message asking for a few fights. I sort of destroyed his Viper with Gen and he's been improving steadily since then with a wide range of characters, he's pretty good by now.

    The other times I've faced him, I've stuck to my one character (Gen) and not really deviated, but I've since picked up the habit of going through all the characters in order when playing (unless I'm doing really badly.)

    So I start doing that, losing a little over half the fights, and finally get to Sagat. I win three rounds in a row, (one perfect) and the guy disconnects from the match and removes me from his friend list.

    Question: Was I being a dick by using all the characters (in order from bottom right)? Or is there something about Sagat that just infuriates people?


    Wait...so you accept more requests than you receive?

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  • StokedUpStokedUp Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So quick question concerning Balrog and Vega. How do you choose what Ultra or Super comes out as Balrog? I've seen the straight punches one and the uppercut one but I can't figure out how to do one or the other. And with Vega how do you choose what wall to jump to?

    For Balrog, you can hold tripple kick (or is it just kick) for the uppercuts to come out or do nothing for straight punches. For example, when juggling you want to hold the kicks, let go for a sec, then hold them for the rest of the juggle or you wont get maximum damage. So Boxers all like, uppercut, MISS, uppercut, uppercut, uppercut, RIGHT IN the kisser!

    And for vega when you do the backwards Z motion you just hold a direction at the end and that will be the wall he goes to. :D

    Edit: oh and i'm messing around with youtube uploads (i've never done them...). How do you get your video to be at the right speed? I uploaded kindof a test recording of a match but it's all laggy on youtube. help anyone?

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    StokedUp wrote: »
    So quick question concerning Balrog and Vega. How do you choose what Ultra or Super comes out as Balrog? I've seen the straight punches one and the uppercut one but I can't figure out how to do one or the other. And with Vega how do you choose what wall to jump to?

    For Balrog, you can hold tripple kick (or is it just kick) for the uppercuts to come out or do nothing for straight punches. For example, when juggling you want to hold the kicks, let go for a sec, then hold them for the rest of the juggle or you wont get maximum damage. So Boxers all like, uppercut, MISS, uppercut, uppercut, uppercut, RIGHT IN the kisser!

    And for vega when you do the backwards Z motion you just hold a direction at the end and that will be the wall he goes to. :D

    Thanks :D.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Shujaa wrote: »
    Who can surprisingly turn into a self propelled aircraft at will.

    You have to wonder if/why she walks anywhere when you can just go helicopter mode.

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  • ElementalorElementalor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Snare wrote: »
    I still think he's a better character than Cammy though. I use Rufus, Ken and Abel so I'm kinda coming from the same background as you! :D

    You are my soul-brother! Just add a Bison in there, haha.

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    StokedUp wrote: »
    So quick question concerning Balrog and Vega. How do you choose what Ultra or Super comes out as Balrog? I've seen the straight punches one and the uppercut one but I can't figure out how to do one or the other. And with Vega how do you choose what wall to jump to?

    For Balrog, you can hold tripple kick (or is it just kick) for the uppercuts to come out or do nothing for straight punches. For example, when juggling you want to hold the kicks, let go for a sec, then hold them for the rest of the juggle or you wont get maximum damage. So Boxers all like, uppercut, MISS, uppercut, uppercut, uppercut, RIGHT IN the kisser!

    And for vega when you do the backwards Z motion you just hold a direction at the end and that will be the wall he goes to. :D

    Thanks :D.

    For Balrog, you don't have to hold any 3 kicks or punches. Just one is fine. Or actually, you don't even need to hold punch. Just kick for upper, nothing for straight.

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  • ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fig-D wrote: »
    On the topic of Fuerte:

    Mailarde has a pretty darn solid El Fuerte. Everytime I play him he improves his game just a little bit more. He knows when to play the wake-up game, he knows when to bait you, and last time I played him he hit me with something like 10 out of 11 Ultras or something equally ridiculous. I suggest that if you want to learn some nifty ElF tricks then you play against this guy.

    I just wish I could decide on a character to main. I play half the roster and I can't give anyone character the time I need to to really improve my game to the point where I can really compete with some of the better players here. I've been playing more Sakura and Rufus lately, but I doing pretty well with Blanka and getting better with Viper. Cammy is still an attractive option too ( :winky: ) and I suppose I do alright with Honda... but this is what I'm talking about. Too many characters to play not enough focus on my part. I need to play more...

    GGs too, Fig-D. Blanka's actually a slightly tough match-up for Fuerte - luckily, he doesn't have Honda's headbutt/HHS combos/Ochio throw or Balrog's armor dash/c.jabs/headbutt -> ultra combo, so I do better as Fuerte against Blanka than Honda/Balrog.

    When I play as Fuerte, Honda and Balrog(boxer) can go die in a fire.

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  • FeriluceFeriluce Adrift on the morning star. Aberdeen, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I was getting pissed off not being able to win much using Abel (I like him, but maybe he's just not for me) so I switched to Sagat just to vent... I ended up with a nice streak and I increased my BP by a fair amount. Bah.

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Well next time we get some matches in Arde maybe I'll go for Blanka, Honda and Boxer and give you more practice with them then. I'll space it out some though, like do one of those and then Sakura or Rufus since I don't have my stick anymore and doing charge characters on a pad wears my thumb out after a while.

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  • ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    We should definitely do this for an off-side tourney:

    Rose Ball: Rose Ball

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  • DourinDourin Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So I'm very new to Street Fighter. Been playing as Sagat, and gotten his moves down pretty well. I started with him since he, compared to other fighters, has a fairly simple move set, so it was an easier one to start out with.

    Now that I'm comfortable with him, and have managed to beat that Godforsaken Seth on normal, as well as win a couple of online matches, a friend has told me that Sagat and Zangief are considered to be, at least, slightly broken characters. Now, I'm never a fan of playing a broken character. Could anyone confirm/deny this for me? He did not go into detail as to what made him broken, just that his brother informed him that Sagat was a broken character, perhaps unbalanced compared to the other fighters.

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  • House of PaincakesHouse of Paincakes Spokane, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Arde wrote: »
    We should definitely do this for an off-side tourney:

    Rose Ball: Rose Ball

    Haha...that's pretty damn awesome :D

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Arde wrote: »
    We should definitely do this for an off-side tourney:

    Rose Ball: Rose Ball

    This not only needs to be a tournament but a whole competitive season. Divide the members into divisions, take the best team from each division and go into playoffs.

    Someone make it happen.

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  • King KongKing Kong Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Ok so I see people online and in videos that when the FA me they then push against me and can throw me. However when I FA and go to push against them they are already hitting the ground by the time I try to grab them. Am I just going to slow or is because I'm using Sagat or that I do a full FA and not like a lvl 2?

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dourin wrote: »
    So I'm very new to Street Fighter. Been playing as Sagat, and gotten his moves down pretty well. I started with him since he, compared to other fighters, has a fairly simple move set, so it was an easier one to start out with.

    Now that I'm comfortable with him, and have managed to beat that Godforsaken Seth on normal, as well as win a couple of online matches, a friend has told me that Sagat and Zangief are considered to be, at least, slightly broken characters. Now, I'm never a fan of playing a broken character. Could anyone confirm/deny this for me? He did not go into detail as to what made him broken, just that his brother informed him that Sagat was a broken character, perhaps unbalanced compared to the other fighters.

    Sagat is probably a bit overpowered. Zangief is probably too. Neither are broken. They are very simple to play effectively. Most importantly they are very low risk, very high reward characters, that's what makes them overpowered in my opinion.

    Just play whoever you want, they aren't going to magically make you win. They are probably the least fun to play against though (imo).
    yes they will, tigerkneetigerkneetigerknee

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Arde wrote: »
    We should definitely do this for an off-side tourney:

    Rose Ball

    It was a fun side event at the Bar Fights, but they seriously needed better Rose players. The place was erupting at every hit though. :lol:

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dourin wrote: »
    So I'm very new to Street Fighter. Been playing as Sagat, and gotten his moves down pretty well. I started with him since he, compared to other fighters, has a fairly simple move set, so it was an easier one to start out with.

    Now that I'm comfortable with him, and have managed to beat that Godforsaken Seth on normal, as well as win a couple of online matches, a friend has told me that Sagat and Zangief are considered to be, at least, slightly broken characters. Now, I'm never a fan of playing a broken character. Could anyone confirm/deny this for me? He did not go into detail as to what made him broken, just that his brother informed him that Sagat was a broken character, perhaps unbalanced compared to the other fighters.

    I'm sure everyone here will tell you to play with whomever you want. Sagat is widely regarded as the best character in the game, but he is no where near broken.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    King Kong wrote: »
    Ok so I see people online and in videos that when the FA me they then push against me and can throw me. However when I FA and go to push against them they are already hitting the ground by the time I try to grab them. Am I just going to slow or is because I'm using Sagat or that I do a full FA and not like a lvl 2?

    Any character can throw from a lvl 2 or crumple. Just dash cancel and throw, the window is pretty large.

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  • DourinDourin Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Ok, well, I'm gonna be on, practicing some other characters. I'll be online, if anyone doesn't mind fighting a very low skilled player. Gamertag's SuperJumpMan.

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    ph blake wrote: »
    Dourin wrote: »
    So I'm very new to Street Fighter. Been playing as Sagat, and gotten his moves down pretty well. I started with him since he, compared to other fighters, has a fairly simple move set, so it was an easier one to start out with.

    Now that I'm comfortable with him, and have managed to beat that Godforsaken Seth on normal, as well as win a couple of online matches, a friend has told me that Sagat and Zangief are considered to be, at least, slightly broken characters. Now, I'm never a fan of playing a broken character. Could anyone confirm/deny this for me? He did not go into detail as to what made him broken, just that his brother informed him that Sagat was a broken character, perhaps unbalanced compared to the other fighters.

    I'm sure everyone here will tell you to play with whomever you want. Sagat is widely regarded as the best character in the game, but he is no where near broken.

    Unless its Ken. Then we're outcast!

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  • House of PaincakesHouse of Paincakes Spokane, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    King Kong wrote: »
    Ok so I see people online and in videos that when the FA me they then push against me and can throw me. However when I FA and go to push against them they are already hitting the ground by the time I try to grab them. Am I just going to slow or is because I'm using Sagat or that I do a full FA and not like a lvl 2?

    You have to dash after your FA hits. Just as your hit connects, double tap forward and you will cancel your recovery and dash towards them (you can also dash backwards if you want to). This is useful for getting in range to do your ultra or a nice combo after you nail them with a focus attack.

    Unless you do this dash after a focus attack, you can't really do anything too damaging as they crumple to the floor.

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  • King KongKing Kong Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Ahh I see now. I was waiting to long after the FA. I'd wait till they were already crumpling and try. Thanks! :lol:

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  • AKSU 308AKSU 308 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Snare wrote: »
    Wow I learned loads from those Gouken videos, actually makes me want to play him again! I found him slow on my first play but I wasn't really poking or doing block strings like those guys were.

    Nice find!


    Hi, could you relink those vids again please. I've been slowly going through this thread but have looked at maybe 60% of the pages but couldn't find anything. Would love to see some good players kicking ass with Gouken.

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  • House of PaincakesHouse of Paincakes Spokane, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    AKSU 308 wrote: »
    Hi, could you relink those vids again please. I've been slowly going through this thread but have looked at maybe 60% of the pages but couldn't find anything. Would love to see some good players kicking ass with Gouken.
    aBlank wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjCXlQV-Gmc

    I have no idea why he keeps back-throwing guys into ultra after a FA. Also, all of his blocked dragon rush punch thingies went unpunished :| Otherwise, pretty damn solid.

    (EDIT) also from the same guy fighting another gouken:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH-Gi-kvbEw

    There you go.

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  • AKSU 308AKSU 308 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Thanks. Vids don't show up on my work computer though, I'll have a good look when I get home.

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