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    Knuckle DraggerKnuckle Dragger Explosive Ovine Disposal Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    FyreWulff wrote:
    Also, by law, all of our dollar coins must have famous women on them, so no presidents.

    Nope.

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    TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Elkamil wrote:
    Well, at least God Bless the USA isn't our anthem.

    O Lord, our God, arise,
    Scatter her enemies,
    And make them fall.
    Confound their politics,
    Frustrate their knavish tricks,
    On Thee our hopes we fix,
    God save us all.

    Come on, how often do you get to say 'knavish tricks' in an international setting?

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    Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Doc wrote:
    Gafoto wrote:
    Coins are expensive to produce, heavy to carry and difficult to sort through when carrying large amounts. I fail to see why coins are used at all. I'd be down with different sized bills, plastic windows, braille, whatever you want.

    One dollar bills have a life span of 22 months. I just checked my pocket. I have a penny from 1962.

    Seriously, half the problem with coins comes from the penny. They are much more trouble than they are worth. If we had one and two dollar coins and no pennies, I think people would have a lot less trouble "sorting through them when carrying large amounts," since they would tend to spend them more often rather than just hand the clerk two dollars and pile the rest of the change from that soda into their pocket along with the rest of it.
    Time was there were coins in denominations up to twenty dollars (the double eagle).

    I dunno. I think physical money is quickly becoming outmoded anyhow.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Elkamil wrote:
    Well, at least God Bless the USA isn't our anthem.

    No, but In God We Trust is the national motto. :(

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    ZsetrekZsetrek Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Tastyfish wrote:
    Elkamil wrote:
    Well, at least God Bless the USA isn't our anthem.

    O Lord, our God, arise,
    Scatter her enemies,
    And make them fall.
    Confound their politics,
    Frustrate their knavish tricks,
    On Thee our hopes we fix,
    God save us all.

    Come on, how often do you get to say 'knavish tricks' in an international setting?

    Our potasium is of a higher quality than other countries' potasium!

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    edited November 2006
    Doc wrote:
    Gafoto wrote:
    Coins are expensive to produce, heavy to carry and difficult to sort through when carrying large amounts. I fail to see why coins are used at all. I'd be down with different sized bills, plastic windows, braille, whatever you want.

    One dollar bills have a life span of 22 months. I just checked my pocket. I have a penny from 1962.

    Seriously, half the problem with coins comes from the penny. They are much more trouble than they are worth. If we had one and two dollar coins and no pennies, I think people would have a lot less trouble "sorting through them when carrying large amounts," since they would tend to spend them more often rather than just hand the clerk two dollars and pile the rest of the change from that soda into their pocket along with the rest of it.
    Time was there were coins in denominations up to twenty dollars (the double eagle).

    I dunno. I think physical money is quickly becoming outmoded anyhow.

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Athenor wrote:
    3) The examples given here are all done with the subtext of "it worked for <country>! Well... Until you start mentioning Chineese and Indian currency conventions, you don't really have much room to talk...

    Funny you should ask:

    1) Chinese currency integrates different colors for the partially sighted, tactile recognition for the blind, and different sizes in some denominations.

    2) Indian currency integrates different colors and some size differences.

    Source. Note that the US is the only country without a Y in any of the four categories listed there.

    Also, while you have often chosen to share your stunning ignorance of all things Canadian with this forum, Fyrewulf, this takes the cake:
    Fyrewulf wrote:
    When I went up to Canada in 2003, I had to resist the urge to take the little gold stick off the money. And yes, it does look like monopoly money. The best thing though, is that since the US Quarter looks so much like the Canadian dollar coin, you can save a lot of money.
    The Canadian dollar coin is a different size, weight, and color than the American quarter, and completely lacks the edge millings of the latter.

    A blind person could not possibly fail to tell the two apart. You sir, have no fucking clue.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    On the other hand, it's nowhere near as ugly as our gaudy flag or national anthem.

    I've never heard a national anthem that I'd choose to listen to. They're just something I'm forced to sit through at sporting events which I don't really attend often anyways. The flag is another thing I'm really pretty indifferent about. They're never going to let us put anything interesting on it, like pirate robots, so why bother messing with it? If anything I guess kind of like the symbols used, especially since so many other flags seem to be pretty much just three bars of color. Woo?
    I Hang your capitalist heads in shame, and say sorry to the next blind person you see.

    But won't I also have to tell the blind person that I'm hanging my head in shame?

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    Low KeyLow Key Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    FyreWulff wrote:
    I like how people have used this thread to make fun of Americans, again. Wow. Good show. You guys are so morally superior. Yeah, of course your own national anthem is going to sound better, because your national anthem always sounds better than others.

    Haha, oh America.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    On the other hand, it's nowhere near as ugly as our gaudy flag or national anthem.

    I've never heard a national anthem that I'd choose to listen to. They're just something I'm forced to sit through at sporting events which I don't really attend often anyways. The flag is another thing I'm really pretty indifferent about. They're never going to let us put anything interesting on it, like pirate robots, so why bother messing with it? If anything I guess kind of like the symbols used, especially since so many other flags seem to be pretty much just three bars of color. Woo?

    Screw stars, give me a flag with an assault rifle, hoe, and a book...which shows you like to grow food, kill each other, and read books (which may or may not be about killing each other).

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    Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Gafoto wrote:
    No, fuck coins. Coins blow ass. When I went to Japan I would always end up making a few small purchases and end up with about 40 pounds of yen. Getting about 20 coins back anytime I make a purchase doesn't appeal to me.


    That's just because the japanese lack a decent intermediate coin between 10 and 50 yen, so whenever you buy anything you' always get 2 or 3 10 yen pieces back. They need some equivalent to the quarter, I ended up with about 50 10 yen pieces by the end of my two week stay when I went there.

    I found the 100 and 500 yen coins to actually be very convenient for vending machines, subway tickets, etc, no having to deal with those paper readers that never work.

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    Mom2KatMom2Kat Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Our paper money is different sizes? I make a deposit every night I work at the Video store and it has all bills in it from $100's on down and they stack the same. Hmm, I never noticed they were different. I know the coind are obviously different sizes and have different milling on the edges as well.

    As for the bills life expectency I have noticed that Canadian bills seem to be more sturdy than American. Put a 5 from each in your jeans and then run them through the washer/dryer. Canadian bill is still pretty crispy a dn teh American is kinda limp raggy. Both use a cotton paper base.

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    ZsetrekZsetrek Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Mom2Kat wrote:
    Our paper money is different sizes? I make a deposit every night I work at the Video store and it has all bills in it from $100's on down and they stack the same. Hmm, I never noticed they were different. I know the coind are obviously different sizes and have different milling on the edges as well.

    As for the bills life expectency I have noticed that Canadian bills seem to be more sturdy than American. Put a 5 from each in your jeans and then run them through the washer/dryer. Canadian bill is still pretty crispy a dn teh American is kinda limp raggy. Both use a cotton paper base.

    Ours are different sizes and plastic.

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    mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    Shinto wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    American money is ugly, and subsequent interations have only gotten uglier. On the other hand, it's nowhere near as ugly as our gaudy flag or national anthem.
    Hey, I like our flag.
    It's like The Music Man of international flags. 13 stripes and 50 starts is probably enough to induce siezures in sensitive types.

    I mean - it's probably better than those African flags with AK-47s on them, but I can't think of any other national flag that's quite so busy.
    How about this one?
    600px-Flag_of_the_British_Indian_Ocean_Territory.svg.png

    Or hell, This one's pretty awesome too.

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    ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    Seriously Canada, what is with your coinage? Why are they all exactly the same size and color as their American equivalents?

    I know why. So you can unload your worthless joke money in New England convenience stores. I am so onto you and I have a lifetime of resent piled up from being Canucked so many times.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    FyreWulff wrote:

    When I went up to Canada in 2003, I had to resist the urge to take the little gold stick off the money. And yes, it does look like monopoly money. The best thing though, is that since the US Quarter looks so much like the Canadian dollar coin, you can save a lot of money.

    [spoiler:65808816d2]Don't look at me, my Canadian buddy did it all the time with his own US money and British money[/spoiler:65808816d2]
    The heck are you talking about?

    A US Quarter, face designs aside, looks exactly like a Canadian quarter where someone intentionally rusted the edges.


    Edit: the USSR had a really damned catchy anthem.

    So catchy that post-collapse russia changed all the references to communism from the lyrics and reused it.

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    SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    using different-sized bills for different denominations.

    best idea ever.

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    WHY wrote:
    FyreWulff wrote:

    When I went up to Canada in 2003, I had to resist the urge to take the little gold stick off the money. And yes, it does look like monopoly money. The best thing though, is that since the US Quarter looks so much like the Canadian dollar coin, you can save a lot of money.

    [spoiler:87f054c017]Don't look at me, my Canadian buddy did it all the time with his own US money and British money[/spoiler:87f054c017]
    The heck are you talking about?

    A US Quarter, face designs aside, looks exactly like a Canadian quarter where someone intentionally rusted the edges.
    I initially assumed he'd meant to write quarter rather than dollar, given that the loonie has no resemblance at all with a US quarter, but if that is the case he was losing money rather than gaining.

    Which, frankly, I'm willing to accept he's stupid enough to do.

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    WHY wrote:
    Edit: the USSR had a really damned catchy anthem.

    So catchy that post-collapse russia changed all the references to communism from the lyrics and reused it.

    I think Germany did the same thing when they de-Nazified. It went from "Deutchland Uber Alles" to "Dachshunds So Loveable and Shnitzel So Delicious". It was sort of a rebranding, I guess.

    But, yeah, the Soviet/ Russian anthem is great. Their flag was pretty cool. Their military uniforms were pretty good too. Really, it appears that a repressive pseudo-communist dictatorship really brings out the best in graphic designers.

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    mrflippy wrote:
    How about this one?
    600px-Flag_of_the_British_Indian_Ocean_Territory.svg.png
    Ah, Diego Garcia. Yeah, I guess the Brits really didn't feel like those colonized folk deserved any restraint in design.

    There are some pretty ugly ones in Africa too.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    But, yeah, the Soviet/ Russian anthem is great. Their flag was pretty cool. Their military uniforms were pretty good too. Really, it appears that a repressive pseudo-communist dictatorship really brings out the best in graphic designers.

    So funny, yet at the same time so true. Their shit did look (and sound) sharp.

    Their money, on the other hand, appears to have been butt-ugly in addition to being worthless:

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    EDIT: And holy fuck does that flag make my eyes bleed!

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    Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    mcdermott wrote:
    MikeMan445 wrote:
    using different-sized bills for different denominations.

    Worst idea ever.

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    Having different sizes for different denominations makes it less likely to mistake one for another. What about that is a bad idea?

    But then everyone has to buy a new wallet... :P

    Not if we make the current size the largest and work down from there, silly.

    So my singles are the size of a postage stamp? No thanks.

    :|

    This will be helpful for those blind fellows.

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    TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    MikeMan445 wrote:
    using different-sized bills for different denominations.

    Worst idea ever.

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    Having different sizes for different denominations makes it less likely to mistake one for another. What about that is a bad idea?

    Also, many counterfeit bills are "whited out" ones or fives with larger denominations printed on them. So making the physical size of bills proportional to their value is another way to help stop counterfeiters.

    It's a good idea all around. I'm surprised it has taken this long.
    mcdermott wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    But, yeah, the Soviet/ Russian anthem is great. Their flag was pretty cool. Their military uniforms were pretty good too. Really, it appears that a repressive pseudo-communist dictatorship really brings out the best in graphic designers.

    So funny, yet at the same time so true. Their shit did look (and sound) sharp.

    Their shit now is even better. The Black Shark, in spite of being a bit of a letdown in actual combat, is a sweet-looking helicopter. And the whole Su-27/37 line is pure eye candy. It's embarassing how much Flanker porn I have on my computer. :?

    Hands On Throttle And Stick, indeed.

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    GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Senjutsu wrote:
    GoodOmens wrote:
    2. All current currency (that looks really strange in print) would have to be replaced by the new currency, which seems like a massive opportunity for theft and fraud.
    Why? It wouldn't be the first time currency changes were introduced.

    Currency has a maximum life of like 18 months of use. You start the transition, and within 18 months it's pretty much everywhere as worn-out old bills drop out of circulation.

    I'm envisioning a situation where large numbers of people will have to bring large amounts of cash to specified locations, to have it replaced by large amounts of other cash. Such a situation would require significant security. Futhermore, every single person would have to be informed about the change, told precisely where to go, and actually convinced to do so.

    Based on recent voting misdeeds, I can see, for example, immigrants told that they'll be arrested if they come to get their new currency.

    I'm not saying that this will be a disaster. But there's definitely disaster potential. I was also thinking of the situation involving a transition over a short period of time. If the transition period is allowed to last a year or 18 months or whatever, during which time both currencies are acceptable, that would cut down on these problems, while creating many others.
    All in all the ruling seems stupidly obvious. The US is practically the only nation on earth whose bills have no distinguishing features for the blind, and it isn't like the rest of us are going broke doing it. Plus all your money looks the same, get with the times guys.

    Agreed. I was initially surprised when I heard this ruling, but it does make perfect sense. I'm really intrigued to see what system the Treasury Department will figure out. They have many options to consider, from simple to absurd, but I'm sure we can all agree...they'll manage to pick the one that sucks the most. I'm guessing scratch and sniff.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    MikeMan445 wrote:
    In Europe they've had this for a while. It's about time to get with the program.

    If "by a while" means "since I was born and probably 50 years before that", then yeah.

    I've worked as a "money launderer" (counting and authenticating the daily cash income from stores and sending it along to the bank for deposit). I've seen bills from most major countries. US dollar bills are tiny. And the color makes them look horribly dirty and uninspiring, but that's another tale.

    The Swedish 500 bill is about 25% taller than a dollar bill. That's as tall as our bills go. The rarely used 1000 bill is just a little bit taller, but wider.

    As far as coinage goes, I think the Euro coins are the prettiest I've seen. Despite having wangs on them.

    ...I'm not really trying to say anything here.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    Here's the dick on the euro coin. :P

    2euro1dicklt9.jpg

    Norway isn't a EU member, so it's not on the coin. Thus making Sweden look like a wang and Finland being ye olde nutsack.

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I would much prefer braile and raised numbers to varied bill size; provided they can stand up to the wear and tear standards. I don't need my wallet getting all disorderly because I broke a $20 just so some lazy shit doesn't have to take the time to actually look at/feel on the bill to see what it is.

    Edit: Oh nice, I hadn't noticed the Viking cock. Classy

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    Man, my memory of dollar bill sizes was way hazy. The one-dollar bill is 189×79 mm, a Swedish 500 bill is 150×82 mm.

    So dollar bills are 4 centimeters wider. Man, how the hell does that fit in wallets? :P

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Why do you think we all need to drive SUVs? Giant wallets

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    No wonder so many Americans lean to the right with all that weight in their back pocket.

    lol pun

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I am going to restrain myself from commenting on the many backward aspects of the US's standards (currency, measuring system, etc), and will instead heartily endorse the Australian currency system. Hell, I didn't even realise the bills were different sizes until I read this thread; that's how non-inconveniencing they are.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    GoodOmens wrote:
    I'm envisioning a situation where large numbers of people will have to bring large amounts of cash to specified locations, to have it replaced by large amounts of other cash. Such a situation would require significant security. Futhermore, every single person would have to be informed about the change, told precisely where to go, and actually convinced to do so.

    Why? I didn't read anything suggesting this ruling involved any sort of "must have every last bill in circulation replaced in X days/months" provision. There's no real reason to. I got the impression it was more of a "figure out what you're going to do to make bills accessible to the blind in the very near future then start implementing it," not "figure out what you're going to do and have it done by Wednesday."

    Maybe I should go read a little more about it.

    Anyway, the replacement would occur between "normal" banks and the Federal Reserve Bank. When stores get money delivered, or when customers withdraw at ATMs, it would be the new bills. When they deposit the old bills or spend them, they'd make their way back to the bank...and in turn get turned in to the reserve and be destroyed.

    There is already plenty of security in place for such transactions as well. They already move large amounts of cash this way every day.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    We've had frequent changes to our currency here in Sweden over the past decades, and there's rarely any trouble. The latest change was the decommisioning of the old 50 öre-coin (half a SEK). 4-5 years ago the 20, 100 and 500 SEK bills got changed. The 20 bill got smaller and lighter colors, the other bills got a security foil along the edge.

    The unfoiled ones are still valid currency, but they're filtered out and sent for destruction when they're authenticated at a bank depot. (That's where I worked a few years ago.)

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    GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I just realized that I mistyped the thread title. It should, of course, refer to the Treasury Department.

    The Treasure Department only handles platinum pieces, magic swords, and Bags of Holding.

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    GoodOmens wrote:
    Senjutsu wrote:
    GoodOmens wrote:
    2. All current currency (that looks really strange in print) would have to be replaced by the new currency, which seems like a massive opportunity for theft and fraud.
    Why? It wouldn't be the first time currency changes were introduced.

    Currency has a maximum life of like 18 months of use. You start the transition, and within 18 months it's pretty much everywhere as worn-out old bills drop out of circulation.

    I'm envisioning a situation where large numbers of people will have to bring large amounts of cash to specified locations, to have it replaced by large amounts of other cash. Such a situation would require significant security. Futhermore, every single person would have to be informed about the change, told precisely where to go, and actually convinced to do so.
    ....why are you envisioning sheer lunacy?

    Do you realize that in the US and every other country many bill designs and even entire bill denominations have been decommissioned in the past, and never once has it been done anything like how you're describing it above?

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited November 2006
    Doc wrote:
    Gafoto wrote:
    No, fuck coins. Coins blow ass. When I went to Japan I would always end up making a few small purchases and end up with about 40 pounds of yen. Getting about 20 coins back anytime I make a purchase doesn't appeal to me.

    If you have no pennies and add $1 and $2 coins, you'll end up with fewer overall coins than you had before, as you remove up to 4 coins and add a maximum of 2.

    Yes, because I never, at any time have more than 4 pennies, or 1 nickel, or 3 quarters, or 4 ones. Places of business never run out of 5s and have to give me a handful of ones. In my wallet, right now, I do not have about 10 ones.

    Carting around a pocketful of silver dollars would be a fucking pain. Not everyone carries around whatever configuration of bills and coins maximizes efficiency.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I think the fact that replacing about a half dozen currencies did not cause too much trouble speaks to the fact that this sort of thing is not impossible.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    ElJeffe wrote:
    Doc wrote:
    Gafoto wrote:
    No, fuck coins. Coins blow ass. When I went to Japan I would always end up making a few small purchases and end up with about 40 pounds of yen. Getting about 20 coins back anytime I make a purchase doesn't appeal to me.

    If you have no pennies and add $1 and $2 coins, you'll end up with fewer overall coins than you had before, as you remove up to 4 coins and add a maximum of 2.

    Yes, because I never, at any time have more than 4 pennies, or 1 nickel, or 3 quarters, or 4 ones. Places of business never run out of 5s and have to give me a handful of ones. In my wallet, right now, I do not have about 10 ones.

    Carting around a pocketful of silver dollars would be a fucking pain. Not everyone carries around whatever configuration of bills and coins maximizes efficiency.
    My real-world experience with dollar and 2-dollar coins seems to contradict your hypothetical assumptions.

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    ElJeffe wrote:
    Yes, because I never, at any time have more than 4 pennies, or 1 nickel, or 3 quarters, or 4 ones. Places of business never run out of 5s and have to give me a handful of ones. In my wallet, right now, I do not have about 10 ones.

    Carting around a pocketful of silver dollars would be a fucking pain. Not everyone carries around whatever configuration of bills and coins maximizes efficiency.

    It would give you a great excuse to wear around that leather pouch you picked up at the ren-fest, only in public. And what goes with a leather pouch? That's right - a cloak!

    Really, though, the English rely almost exclusively on pound coins, and to some extent when I lived there back in 1988, two-pound coins. It didn't seem to be chafing their thighs too badly, and it was convenient to not have to whip out your wallet for minor purchases.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited November 2006
    ElJeffe wrote:
    Doc wrote:
    Gafoto wrote:
    No, fuck coins. Coins blow ass. When I went to Japan I would always end up making a few small purchases and end up with about 40 pounds of yen. Getting about 20 coins back anytime I make a purchase doesn't appeal to me.

    If you have no pennies and add $1 and $2 coins, you'll end up with fewer overall coins than you had before, as you remove up to 4 coins and add a maximum of 2.

    Yes, because I never, at any time have more than 4 pennies, or 1 nickel, or 3 quarters, or 4 ones. Places of business never run out of 5s and have to give me a handful of ones. In my wallet, right now, I do not have about 10 ones.

    Carting around a pocketful of silver dollars would be a fucking pain. Not everyone carries around whatever configuration of bills and coins maximizes efficiency.
    My real-world experience with dollar and 2-dollar coins seems to contradict your hypothetical assumptions.

    It's entirely possible that my behavior would dramatically change. My point was that if I just suddenly replaced all the ones I carry with coins, it would pretty much blow. YMMV.

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    I submitted an entry to Lego Ideas, and if 10,000 people support me, it'll be turned into an actual Lego set!If you'd like to see and support my submission, follow this link.
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