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Let's Play Silent Hill Homecoming - Set 18 - The end

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dranyth wrote: »
    And Alex has *still* had almost no reaction to anything he has seen so far. Like the slithering vagina-toothed face wolverine monsters that inhabited both his basement and his garage. Now on to violent dogs that are missing their fucking skin. And the two-legged, smoke belching glowing things. Not to mention the deadly sheer cliff holes in the middle of the streets.

    Maybe he just came back from Vietnam and has seen even *more* horrific things and so this shit doesn't phase him, but somehow I doubt it.

    In that manner, actually, he's acting just like James.

    he's had plenty of reactions, most of it is in text and facial expressions (like the lurker in the basement, that was plently of wtf reaction in his face), there's a lot of things you can examine too where it wont tell you to examine, for example those tombs give out names and death dates ect, you wont get a button calling to check them, but just check stuff anyway.

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  • VothVoth Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yes, I never expect anyone in a horror film or game to act within any sort of reasonable sanity. Most horror stories would end rather abruptly.

    I don't think the smokers are worth fighting. You don't get enough ammo in the game and it's only a minor inconvenience to avoid them. It's better to save all the ammo you can get for the larger boss fights. They tend to have a load of health.

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  • HelloweenHelloween Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Voth wrote: »
    Yes, I never expect anyone in a horror film or game to act within any sort of reasonable sanity. Most horror stories would end rather abruptly.

    I don't think the smokers are worth fighting. You don't get enough ammo in the game and it's only a minor inconvenience to avoid them. It's better to save all the ammo you can get for the larger boss fights. They tend to have a load of health.

    This seems to be sound advice. Also the combat is either:

    1. Fine and i'm being shitty or
    2. Awful and so damn fiddly it's not even funny.

    I'm not sure which it is yet.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    I have to share an incredible experience I had the morning after I had seen the Silent Hill movie in a theatre.

    I wake up, go get some coffee and I hear an air alarm. I open the door and walk outside and there's an immense and dense grey fog in the air... On top of that, small pieces of ash were raining down from the air.

    So I sum it up, dense fog, raining ashes and an air alarm sounding off. A really "oh shit..." moment. I sat down on the porch and waited for the first mannequin to show up.

    It turned out that there was a "small" forest fire nearby as well as it was the first Monday in the month (on which they test the air alarms, nation wide). Really creepy to wake up to that though. :)

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  • VothVoth Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Helloween wrote: »
    Voth wrote: »
    Yes, I never expect anyone in a horror film or game to act within any sort of reasonable sanity. Most horror stories would end rather abruptly.

    I don't think the smokers are worth fighting. You don't get enough ammo in the game and it's only a minor inconvenience to avoid them. It's better to save all the ammo you can get for the larger boss fights. They tend to have a load of health.

    This seems to be sound advice. Also the combat is either:

    1. Fine and i'm being shitty or
    2. Awful and so damn fiddly it's not even funny.

    I'm not sure which it is yet.

    It's really picky. They added more combat options from previous games but you still move around like a puppet on a stick. One step forward, one step back and all that.

    I ran into a pretty interesting glitch when I was playing in the later chapters. I had just gotten out of a very loud area (you'll know what I'm talking about when you get there) and I was attacked by every monster in the entire area. After 10 mintues of fighting and no health or ammo left, I wandered around town completely terrified that it was going to happen again and went another thirty minutes with dead silence everywhere. I only wished it was on purpose.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Honk wrote: »
    I have to share an incredible experience I had the morning after I had seen the Silent Hill movie in a theatre.

    I wake up, go get some coffee and I hear an air alarm. I open the door and walk outside and there's an immense and dense grey fog in the air... On top of that, small pieces of ash were raining down from the air.

    So I sum it up, dense fog, raining ashes and an air alarm sounding off. A really "oh shit..." moment. I sat down on the porch and waited for the first mannequin to show up.

    It turned out that there was a "small" forest fire nearby as well as it was the first Monday in the month (on which they test the air alarms, nation wide). Really creepy to wake up to that though. :)

    i would of shat my pants 1000 times over if that had happend to me. D:

    i mean just normal fog still fucks me up.

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  • remlap13remlap13 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Haha.. Helloween you are a funny dude.. These are always good whenever you do them

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  • UselesswarriorUselesswarrior Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Two things helloween, you missed out a room with items behind that redneck guy who gives you the handgun, also never mellee the smoker guys, if your aim is good you can down them in one shot with the pistol and save yourself a lot of health.

    I like the UK boxart for this, don't know if I like it more then the states one as the states one seems more appropriate for the plot of the game, however the UK one is more dynamic.

    EDIT: nevermind about the missed room, you got that in the previous video.

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  • ZandraconZandracon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I think you're supposed to shoot the glowy fleshy bits that come out when it shoots its phlegm all over the place. Haven't played it before, but I assume it a weak spot. So, HIT THE WEAK SPOT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE. I think.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Doin' my usual post marking. It's hard to get back into the action sequences, after Penumbra, or not to shout "turn off your @#%;#%^@ light!" - wait. Last part still applies. ;)

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  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Man, it was spewing poison smoke everywhere and meleeing it seemed like a good idea?

    You silly billy.

    Also, the bit with the history of the town's hole problem was awesome :^:

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  • Crotchless Gorilla SuitCrotchless Gorilla Suit Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Man, I can't wait to see how you handle the next couple parts after the graveyard.

    Also, the combat in this game is incredibly frustrating.

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  • Stranger DangerStranger Danger Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Anyone find it incredibly jarring how the protagonist (I cannot be assed to remember his name) completely neglects to ask about ALL THE FUCKING MONSTERS RUNNING AROUND

    'cause, see, that's something I'd be wondering about.

    Hmm.

    Then again, this IS Silent Hill. Maybe people who grow up there just kinda get used to them.

    "Dude, I found one of those crawly things in my basement the other day. Had to go to the hospital and get 3 stitches to fix the bites."

    "That sucks. Zombie dogs chewed through my kid's plastic swimming pool. I swear I'm gonna move to Detroit one of these days."

    "That's crazy man! It's freakin' dangerous there! You could get killed!"

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Anyone find it incredibly jarring how the protagonist (I cannot be assed to remember his name) completely neglects to ask about ALL THE FUCKING MONSTERS RUNNING AROUND

    'cause, see, that's something I'd be wondering about.

    Hmm.

    Then again, this IS Silent Hill. Maybe people who grow up there just kinda get used to them.

    "Dude, I found one of those crawly things in my basement the other day. Had to go to the hospital and get 3 stitches to fix the bites."

    "That sucks. Zombie dogs chewed through my kid's plastic swimming pool. I swear I'm gonna move to Detroit one of these days."

    "That's crazy man! It's freakin' dangerous there! You could get killed!"


    he does
    you just haven't see it yet.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    I guess you could always interpret it as a dream, you don't really question the wierd shit in your dreams. Noone actually knows how SH works, theres only one person who has definitely walked out of it in canon, oh wait, two people and one of them was a god.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I guess you could always interpret it as a dream, you don't really question the wierd shit in your dreams. Noone actually knows how SH works, theres only one person who has definitely walked out of it in canon, oh wait, two people and one of them was a god.
    heather wasn't a god, she was the mother of the cults god, also its actually more like 3 people isn't it? the trucker guy from origins dropping off alex, least it looks like a older him, i haven't actually played origins yet.

    isnt it 4? the guy heather was with, im sure he left with her.. maybe its even 5, didn't laura from sh2 get out too? and what about henry and his gf..

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    The ending with Cybil leaving isn't canon I don't think and there isnt a given ending for SH2 but Laura was never in the alternate Silent Hills, she was too innocent to get trapped there. Harry defeated A god to leave so props to him, the trucker guy, I dunno, you'd think if he'd left he wouldn't be going anywhere near that place, I chalk it up to self-wank from the developers.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    wasnt it a different team who did origins then the team that did sh5?

    also only harry and newborn heather left sh1, the cybil fight death is canon (its mentioned somewhere in sh3, or the manual or something, i do remember reading it back when i played it, heather then left again in sh3 but i cant remember if she left with that old guy or not, we know from sh4 that james never left and thats pretty much it from official-wise canon.

    just remembered henry and his gf didnt even go to sh did they?

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    I thought you meant Cybil by gf.

    Harry and his wife came past Silent Hill when they found Cheryl originally.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    ^ er yeah.. i know.

    i think you've been reading my post wrong and are confusing when i say henry with harry.

    henry and his gf = SH4: the room

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh, not played that.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    wasnt it a different team who did origins then the team that did sh5?

    also only harry and newborn heather left sh1, the cybil fight death is canon (its mentioned somewhere in sh3, or the manual or something, i do remember reading it back when i played it, heather then left again in sh3 but i cant remember if she left with that old guy or not, we know from sh4 that james never left and thats pretty much it from official-wise canon.

    just remembered henry and his gf didnt even go to sh did they?

    Origins was done by Climax. Homecoming was done by Double Helix Games.

    Henry and whatshername did in fact go to parts of Silent Hill, but not the city proper.

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    So I don't have to go hunting, what do you see in SH4 that implies that James never made it out?

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  • VothVoth Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    James must have made it out. I think Silent Hill 3 covers that, right?

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So I don't have to go hunting, what do you see in SH4 that implies that James never made it out?

    James dad is in the game and is the caretaker for the apartment block which sh4 is centred around, theres a point in the game where you examine something, i cant remember what it was, i think it was something on the wall of the room but anyway it mentions that the caretakers son, james, went missing and noone ever found him or a body, i think it went into more detail too.

    also sh3 had nothing to do with james or sh2, apart from the town, sh3 was a continuation of sh1's story.

    i have this hankering to replay the room, but i know i wont sleep for days since i live in an flat very much like "the room" D:

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    So I don't have to go hunting, what do you see in SH4 that implies that James never made it out?

    James dad is in the game and is the caretaker for the apartment block which sh4 is centred around, theres a point in the game where you examine something, i cant remember what it was, i think it was something on the wall of the room but anyway it mentions that the caretakers son, james, went missing and noone ever found him or a body, i think it went into more detail too.

    also sh3 had nothing to do with james or sh2, apart from the town, sh3 was a continuation of sh1's story.

    i have this hankering to replay the room, but i know i wont sleep for days since i live in an flat very much like "the room" D:

    See, this is why I hate SH4. It had mediocre game-play and it killed my favorite character.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    It never said he was his dad did it? Just that they had the same surname, its something that implies but isn't certain.

    And as stated, SH4 almost has virtually nothing to do with Silent Hill.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It never said he was his dad did it? Just that they had the same surname, its something that implies but isn't certain.

    And as stated, SH4 almost has virtually nothing to do with Silent Hill.

    i got this from the wiki:" The character Frank Sunderland is also believed to be James' father. When studying a picture of Toluca Lake that Frank gave him, Henry, the protagonist, mentions that Frank's son and daughter-in-law went to Silent Hill and disappeared. This could allude to James' fate at the end of Silent Hill 2." pretty much confirms it.

    also the main badguy of sh4 is mentioned in sh2, as well as some other stuff to do with the order ect

    but yeah originally the game wasn't meant to be a silent hill game, i enjoyed it nonetheless, enjoyed it more then i am enjoying sh5 thats for sure.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Silent Hill 2 does not have a canonical ending, and official statements from Konami have kept the canonicity of the ending ambiguous

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh its still ambiguous all right, just a little less so.

    I don't see what the problem is here, a future game making an ambiguous reference to the fate of a protagonist of a prior game doesn't make it non-canon.

    besides its a fitting end for the character
    if the "in water" ending is what sh4 implies, might not be, he might of skipped town and gone to live in a shack in Alaska not telling anyone, who really knows?

    he still deserves to die for what he did.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Nah, he looked after her for 3 years, he was mentally drained and she was dying anyway. Its not a good thing he did but he didn't just do it for the funsies. After 3 years like that I can imagine what mustve been going through his head and thats ignoring the sexual frustration.

    And I prefer the Leave ending, Laura gets a parent and he faces and accepts what he has done and is forgiven.

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  • VothVoth Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Maybe it's the Rebirth ending. It would explain why he's missing :P

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Nah, he looked after her for 3 years, he was mentally drained and she was dying anyway. Its not a good thing he did but he didn't just do it for the funsies. After 3 years like that I can imagine what mustve been going through his head and thats ignoring the sexual frustration.

    And I prefer the Leave ending, Laura gets a parent and he faces and accepts what he has done and is forgiven.

    Yeah, I liked to think of the Leave ending as the real one. He mans up to what he did, and subjects himself to total hell (Silent Hill) for absolution. The whole point of the game is that he is completely wracked with guilt over what he did.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    If I wanted a depressing ending no matter what I did, I'd play Drakengard.

    Again.

    The bad endings to SH are just not fun or acceptable rewards for someone you attach yourself to but in most cases the good endings are just more fitting.

    Harry didn't do anything bad, he deserved to leave and he deserved to leave with his child BUT he did deserve to leave with Cybil. Thats a shame.

    Theres no canon ending to SH2 but Leave is the best and most fitting.

    Theres only one ending to SH3, the others only unlockable after completing it once but its fitting enough, the bad ending doesn't fit at all with Heathers characterisation.

    4, I've not played but the bad endings are just horrible, horrible things to have happen to your character/allies.

    5, they're all short, really short, not suitable at all for what you have to put yourself through to get there. Some of them make 0 sense to. But the Bogeyman ending while a fun little distraction isn't fitting at all to the character, so good ending again.

    Origins I don't know anything about.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Theres no canon ending to SH2 but Leave is the best and most fitting.

    History will know the Dog ending as being canon.

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Dranyth wrote: »
    Theres no canon ending to SH2 but Leave is the best and most fitting.

    History will know the Dog ending as being canon.

    It makes me feel much better about the whole Eddie situation.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dranyth wrote: »
    Theres no canon ending to SH2 but Leave is the best and most fitting.

    History will know the Dog ending as being canon.

    It makes me feel much better about the whole Eddie situation.

    I actually have never finished SH2. I'm somewhere in the apartment in the beginning on the PC version of it. But I have seen a video of the Dog ending before.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    guys you were right, this is the most unbelievable bullshitting sliding block puzzle i have ever seen. D:

    i predict hell will tackle this over 3 full videos.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Silent Hill Arcade's UFO ending is the best.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyF4371Bt0M

    Better version.

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