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A man died Monday, days after he was involved in a swordfight with the grandson of a woman who was killed when she tried to intervene in the fight, police said.
I know i"m going to hell... but i'm so getting some battle armor and a katana and heading up to Indiana to fight the other immortals..
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Swords are a weapon for honorless dogs. We've all seen the debates about why swords are superior to guns. At the end of it, there's only two arguments left standing.
The first one is that blades are silent. You often see an argument such as
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Swords are silent. I can sneak up on you and your gun and chop your head off before you even know I'm there!!!!1
So I ask you, is a silent kill honorable? Killing a man, two men, a group of men before they even know there was an enemy at hand? That's hardly fair, and fairness is a large portion of honor. Two men, facing each other on the field of honor, that is an honorable fight. One man slipping a stiletto between another's ribs is an deceitful assassination. ETA: Christ, do you people not get this? It's NOT MY ARGUMENT. I'm responding to a common argument by the swords-are-better group. For everyone that says "But you could do the same with a gun!", I never said you couldn't.
The second argument left standing is that a kill with a sword allows you to feel the life of another man when you take it. Again, this is an argument I've seen made a hundred times. Swords are better because you can feel the life leave your opponent. I ask you this, what kind of ******** sadist enjoys the feeling of another man's life slipping away between his fingers? That's not honorable, that's monstrous. That's the kind of thing a man like Mengele or Torquemada would enjoy. Footnote for the dense: this statement does not apply to all swordsmen, just the ones that claim this. It's been done before. Those idiots absolutely flock to these threads.
A sword is also far more inhumane than a gun. Look up knife fight wounds on Google Images. I won't post them, they're extremely graphic. I'd much rather have a hole in my arm than be missing it completely. A shot to the gut is gruesome, but it's nowhere near as stomach-wrenchingly disgusting as a man whose intestines are falling out of a gaping slash in his torso. While guns can be gruesome, the most hideous and gruesome gunshots are often shots that would have killed the victim instantly. Gruesome sword wounds force the victim to live until enough blood has drained from their bodies for them to pass out and die. The most gruesome gunshots are often headshots, and a wound that destroys the brain ends life instantly.
Above all, a sword requires no skill whatsoever to use. You pick it up and wave it around, and you can kill a man with no problem. A gun, however, requires an amazing amount of skill to use properly. One must take into account the movement of the target, the weight of the bullet, the muzzle velocity, the wind, the sight picture, their stance, the number of rounds left in the magazine, whether or not their safety is on... any one of a million things which may or may not affect the shooter at any given time. And these are only the things which affect an unstressed shooter. A combatant in a gunfight must take into account enemy tactics, their own biological responses to the situation*, where cover is and how best to utilize it, their surroundings and how they can be advantageous... a gunfight is incredibly complex and difficult. I myself was a competitive shooter for three years. I practiced every weekend of the year, and at least two additional days most weeks. I managed, in that time, to achieve the second lowest competitive ranking the NRA had to offer. That was my peak, and I was good. Shooting a gun is far more difficult than one would imagine. Three years of dedicated training got me to where I was; the middle of the pack. And there are people like Middleton Tompkins out there who could take a fly out of the air at a thousand yards, and people like Rob Leatham and Jerry Miculek who can put a dozen bullets exactly where they want them in an incredibly short amount of time. My candle is but a cigarette compared to the lighthouse of these men.
People say that a sword is a beautiful weapon of honor, and a gun is nothing more than an ugly killing machine. Those of you who hold that opinion, I would like to direct you to this thread, and I hope you cry yourself to sleep tonight after realizing how incredibly wrong you were.
Some argue that with a sword, one has to be brave enough to engage in close combat. To them, I say that close combat with a sword is nowhere near as dangerous and harrowing as a fight in which death can come from any direction at any time, from any distance. In a swordfight, you can simply step back and be safe for a moment. Not so in a gunfight. In a gunfight, you find cover or you die. It's that simple.
it's a point you could condense into about 15 words but still
if a dude with a sword and a dude with a gun are standing next to eachother and decide to fight, the guy with the gun is probably going to win
that's not what he's even talking about
he's talking about which is more honorable
Besides, if you said that to the guy, he'd probably disagree since apparently guns are so much harder to use cause you have to remember if the safety is on or not
it's a point you could condense into about 15 words but still
if a dude with a sword and a dude with a gun are standing next to eachother and decide to fight, the guy with the gun is probably going to win
that's not what he's even talking about
he's talking about which is more honorable
Besides, if you said that to the guy, he'd probably disagree since apparently guns are so much harder to use cause you have to remember if the safety is on or not
it's a point you could condense into about 15 words but still
if a dude with a sword and a dude with a gun are standing next to eachother and decide to fight, the guy with the gun is probably going to win
that's not what he's even talking about
he's talking about which is more honorable
Besides, if you said that to the guy, he'd probably disagree since apparently guns are so much harder to use cause you have to remember if the safety is on or not
oh
well
honor is basically the opposite of instinct
also if you're going to engage anybody with a firearm and they have a weapon with an edge, they can cover 15 - 20 feet in the time it takes you to unholster, draw a bead, and fire.
so keep your distance!
but this is retarded anyway
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WHAT THE FUCK IS IT WITH SWORDSMEN?
Thank god I wasn't the first to post.
I want to see a ridiculously stupid action movie
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I agree, real men would rather use a shark to cut your head off.
i warned you fuckers about the swordsmen
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Wh...
What?
ahaha that was fantastic
11 hour flights will do that to a man
It could only be better if it shot the blade out.
classic.
It's like a 1000 page thread now
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what the hell is that
maaaannn
it's a point you could condense into about 15 words but still
if a dude with a sword and a dude with a gun are standing next to eachother and decide to fight, the guy with the gun is probably going to win
that's not what he's even talking about
he's talking about which is more honorable
Besides, if you said that to the guy, he'd probably disagree since apparently guns are so much harder to use cause you have to remember if the safety is on or not
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
crazy dude with a gun and everybody calls for total ban
:?
oh
well
honor is basically the opposite of instinct
the solution is the ban swords
also if you're going to engage anybody with a firearm and they have a weapon with an edge, they can cover 15 - 20 feet in the time it takes you to unholster, draw a bead, and fire.
so keep your distance!
but this is retarded anyway
There are people who sit down and debate this?
same dudes that get wet when they see sephiroth