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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Viagra doesn't increase libido, it increases blood flow to the penis to allow you to get a fucking hard on. That's why if you're on alpha blockers or blood thinners you shouldn't take viagra.
    Which for men is generally considered as being "increases libido". Basically mission accomplished if they can get it up, since it enables sex.

    Doesn't work the same for women. Well, for some women it does. But no one's really sure why.

    No it doesn't increase libido. Libido is the desire to have sex. Getting a hard on and the desire to have sex are not one in the same.

    Nonsense, the climbing of the mountain is caused by the mountain being there.

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  • SarksusSarksus JUST PRINTRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Honk wrote: »
    Michelle Bachmann!

    There goes my erection.

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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    Also this place is on some weird hair-trigger to accuse people of not understanding vaginas.
    So what you're saying is that rape isn't painful for women.

    <3

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  • BamaBama regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Viagra doesn't increase libido, it increases blood flow to the penis to allow you to get a fucking hard on. That's why if you're on alpha blockers or blood thinners you shouldn't take viagra.
    Which for men is generally considered as being "increases libido". Basically mission accomplished if they can get it up, since it enables sex.

    Doesn't work the same for women. Well, for some women it does. But no one's really sure why.

    No it doesn't increase libido. Libido is the desire to have sex. Getting a hard on and the desire to have sex are not one in the same.

    Nonsense, the climbing of the mountain is caused by the mountain being there.
    Somebody is in a boastful mood.

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  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    My speculation on the matter was that IF such a drug actually existed, it seems like there would be some limited scope for abuse thereof by those without scruples. Of course I don't think such a drug is actually possible.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Viagra doesn't increase libido, it increases blood flow to the penis to allow you to get a fucking hard on. That's why if you're on alpha blockers or blood thinners you shouldn't take viagra.
    Which for men is generally considered as being "increases libido". Basically mission accomplished if they can get it up, since it enables sex.

    Doesn't work the same for women. Well, for some women it does. But no one's really sure why.

    No it doesn't increase libido. Libido is the desire to have sex. Getting a hard on and the desire to have sex are not one in the same.

    Nonsense, the climbing of the mountain is caused by the mountain being there.

    If the mountain didn't want to be climbed, it shouldn't have shown all that cliff like a little slut

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    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    My speculation on the matter was that IF such a drug actually existed, it seems like there would be some limited scope for abuse thereof by those without scruples. Of course I don't think such a drug is actually possible.

    thank you for proving my point?

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Extortion is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

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  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    My speculation on the matter was that IF such a drug actually existed, it seems like there would be some limited scope for abuse thereof by those without scruples. Of course I don't think such a drug is actually possible.

    thank you for proving my point?
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    but seriously, my horse in this race is forcing Elldren to become so angry she succumbs to the flu and I can rob her house

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I think it means an inanimate thing understood, previously mentioned, about to be mentioned, or present in the immediate context

    what do you think it means

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    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    Explain to me, how a mood altering drug designed to increase sexual desire in women, would not be considered by some as THE drug to try to slip to women.

    Yes you still have free will, but I'm pretty good at poor decision making when my own hormones are up.

    EDIT: Mild doses of testosterone have been considered for such a drug for this reason, but hence the skepticism - the question has always been asked, are we really talking about sexual dysfunction or is it more a psychological process which should be dealt with by other means. In men viagra is acting on a specific region of the body to enable a specific function which implies a more physiological issue.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Hehe. I was drunk with one of my old bosses once and he excused himself from the bar for a moment saying "I gotta race like a piss-horse".

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  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I think it means an inanimate thing understood, previously mentioned, about to be mentioned, or present in the immediate context

    what do you think it means
    I was just enjoying the movie! Down in front!

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  • BamaBama regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    Explain to me, how a mood altering drug designed to increase sexual desire in women, would not be considered by some as THE drug to try to slip to women.

    Yes you still have free will, but I'm pretty good at poor decision making when my own hormones are up.
    I someone slipped Viagra into my drink at a bar I might end up sleeping with them, but I would definitely drink that brand of beer more often.

    Bama on
  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    Explain to me, how a mood altering drug designed to increase sexual desire in women, would not be considered by some as THE drug to try to slip to women.

    Yes you still have free will, but I'm pretty good at poor decision making when my own hormones are up.

    You should also be pretty good at recognizing that your decision-making is hormonally influenced at a given moment and correcting for such. The difference between puberty and adulthood. Also a necessary skill to learn for surviving situations that involve adrenaline and thinking at the same time.

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  • PreacherPreacher regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I dunno if I want to get an erection while drinking beer.

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I keep using the word mood alterant in my posts, and it's like people just aren't seeing it.

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  • SarksusSarksus JUST PRINTRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    ELM, you're talking about magic, right?

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    fuck I am trying to form a cogent argument and failing horribly.

    elm: that would not be "female viagra" or whateverthefuck.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    Explain to me, how a mood altering drug designed to increase sexual desire in women, would not be considered by some as THE drug to try to slip to women.

    Yes you still have free will, but I'm pretty good at poor decision making when my own hormones are up.
    I someone slipped Viagra into my drink at a bar I might end up sleeping with them, but I would definitely drink that brand of beer more often.

    This reminds me of how Coca Cola used to contain coca extracts. That's how you build up a product!

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    just flash a lot of money to achieve the same effect.

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Uh oh

    One of best friends (who is gay) will be moving into an apartment with three other gay guys, of whom he knows only one.

    I keep telling him that's a recipe for drama disaster, but he thinks it's gonna work out great.

    Sucks to be him.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno if I want to get an erection while drinking beer.

    If Jack Daniel's makes you anything less than the man with abilities in his pants, then I don't even want to know you

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    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • Silas BrownSilas Brown regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno if I want to get an erection while drinking beer.

    If Jack Daniel's makes you anything less than the man with abilities in his pants, then I don't even want to know you

    Every [chat] is achewood [chat]

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  • SarksusSarksus JUST PRINTRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    just flash a lot of money to achieve the same effect.

    That's expensive. I'd rather be able to flash my health insurance card.

    Yeah, baby, let's pay a visit to my general practitioner and get you set up.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    As in yes a mood-altering aphrodisiac would have potential for abuse, mood alterants already are abused, but viagra isn't a fucking aphrodisiac.

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    Explain to me, how a mood altering drug designed to increase sexual desire in women, would not be considered by some as THE drug to try to slip to women.

    Yes you still have free will, but I'm pretty good at poor decision making when my own hormones are up.

    You should also be pretty good at recognizing that your decision-making is hormonally influenced at a given moment and correcting for such. The difference between puberty and adulthood. Also a necessary skill to learn for surviving situations that involve adrenaline and thinking at the same time.
    Recognizing hormonally influenced decision making and fully correcting for it are two different things. No one does it perfectly. Hence my idle speculation on the matter - which is what this started at - which was, it's not a date-rape drug, but it is surreptiously messing with someone's moods. Assuming there are no side-effects (unlikely), I don't where to put that one. Other then "creepy" at the very least and abhorrent to my mind.

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  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    This is the stupidest argument because tautologies

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  • BamaBama regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What's your opinion on perfume?

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  • JamesJames regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    James wrote: »
    ELM, you shouldn't use the word libido because it implies desire. Viagra is used to combat erectile dysfunction, and still requires stimulus to activate. Women have already been using it themselves, and at least one study has shown that it is effective.
    Wiki indicates that was for people on anti-depressants.

    The target is still sexual dysfunction. Viagra does not work in the brain, and does not combat the anti-depressant. It is combating a side effect of the anti-depressant, or simply the effect of the person's illness for which they need an anti-depressant. I suspect it would work the same way with the anti-depressant/illness absent.

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    As in yes a mood-altering aphrodisiac would have potential for abuse, mood alterants already are abused, but viagra isn't a fucking aphrodisiac.
    Indeed, which is what I meant and failed to imply (because I suck at using the word libido properly).

    "Female viagra" is a catch-all term though - it's used to discuss anything related to what's considered female sexual dysfunction, which commonly is considered to be dealing with low libido since any purely physiological effect doesn't really work.

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Podly wrote: »
    Uh oh

    One of best friends (who is gay) will be moving into an apartment with three other gay guys, of whom he knows only one.

    I keep telling him that's a recipe for drama disaster, but he thinks it's gonna work out great.

    Sucks to be him.

    since when do gays love drama

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What should I have for lunch yall?

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  • PreacherPreacher regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno if I want to get an erection while drinking beer.

    If Jack Daniel's makes you anything less than the man with abilities in his pants, then I don't even want to know you

    Jack Daniels isn't a beer though senj, I mean you may drink it in pints but it doesn't make it a beer.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno if I want to get an erection while drinking beer.

    If Jack Daniel's makes you anything less than the man with abilities in his pants, then I don't even want to know you

    Jack Daniels isn't a beer though senj, I mean you may drink it in pints but it doesn't make it a beer.

    sapporo schlong

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    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • Delicious Toad!Delicious Toad! __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    What should I have for lunch yall?
    Gays

    swine flu

    female Viagra

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    Uh oh

    One of best friends (who is gay) will be moving into an apartment with three other gay guys, of whom he knows only one.

    I keep telling him that's a recipe for drama disaster, but he thinks it's gonna work out great.

    Sucks to be him.

    since when do gays love drama

    It's this little radicle theory I have

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    elm seems to think this drug would ideally be some sort of love potion which is stupid and no, it wouldn't.
    Explain to me, how a mood altering drug designed to increase sexual desire in women, would not be considered by some as THE drug to try to slip to women.

    Yes you still have free will, but I'm pretty good at poor decision making when my own hormones are up.

    You should also be pretty good at recognizing that your decision-making is hormonally influenced at a given moment and correcting for such. The difference between puberty and adulthood. Also a necessary skill to learn for surviving situations that involve adrenaline and thinking at the same time.
    Recognizing hormonally influenced decision making and fully correcting for it are two different things. No one does it perfectly. Hence my idle speculation on the matter - which is what this started at - which was, it's not a date-rape drug, but it is surreptitiously messing with someone's moods. Assuming there are no side-effects (unlikely), I don't where to put that one. Other then "creepy" at the very least and abhorrent to my mind.

    The discussion of the drug that doesn't exist anyway isn't interesting to me. Fully correcting for them isn't so easy as to be automatic, it takes some measure of discipline, but not actually that large of a measure and honestly it is an incredibly basic requisite life-skill, on the level of tying your shoes.

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  • PreacherPreacher regular Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    Uh oh

    One of best friends (who is gay) will be moving into an apartment with three other gay guys, of whom he knows only one.

    I keep telling him that's a recipe for drama disaster, but he thinks it's gonna work out great.

    Sucks to be him.

    since when do gays love drama

    Everyone loves TNT you mother fucker!

    Preacher on
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