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Pre Fight Debate Thread: Bracket 9
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Match A:
Typhoid Mary
Powers: Pyrokinesis, telekinesis, psionic seduction, skilled in hand to hand combat and the use of various weapons, insanity
Equipment, 10 throwing knives, a sawed-off shotgun, 20 Fragmentation Grenades
Vs.
Brainiac
Powers: Vast intellect, Vast superhuman physical capabilities and energy manipulation powers derived from cybernetic body.
Environment: The Fifth Dimension. Mr. Mxyzptlk is present, and will be interfering in the fight.
Match B:
The Mandarin
Powers: Racist Chinese stereotype, skilled martial artist, possesses 10 alien rings
* Left Pinkie — "Ice Blast," with which he could encase foes in bands of ice or create walls of ice to block pursuers.
* Left Ring Finger — "Mental-Intensifier," which amplifies the Mandarin's own mental energies and allows him to control the minds of others.
* Left Middle Finger — "Electro Blast," unleashing powerful lightning-like bolts.
* Left Index Finger — "Flame Blast," a flamethrower-like gout of flame.
* Left Thumb — "White Light," a laser-like beam.
* Right Thumb — "Matter Rearranger," which can rearrange the atoms and molecules of a substance. The Mandarin usually uses this ring to change the shape of objects, such as causing a giant stone hand to erupt out of the earth and grapple a foe. He has, however, used it to transmute the molecular composition of objects, such as changing the air around a target into a poisonous gas.
* Right Index Finger — "Impact Beam," a blast of concussive or gravitational force.
* Right Middle Finger — "Vortex Beam," allows Mandarin to control air and wind, allowing him to fly.
* Right Ring Finger — "Disintegration Beam." Unlike the others, this Ring requires a twenty minute recharge time between firings.
* Right Pinkie — "Black Light," which can create areas of absolute blackness.
Vs.
Silver Samurai
Powers: Less racist Japanese stereotype, Channel mutant energy into anything, most commonly a sword, to create a tachyon field capable of cutting anything except adamantium, teleportation ring
Equipment: Two katanas, 20 shruiken
Environment: A battlefield in feudal Japan. Mandarin may not use his mind control ring, his matter rearranger, or his disintegration ring. All others he may use at will.
Typhoid Mary
Powers: Pyrokinesis, telekinesis, psionic seduction, skilled in hand to hand combat and the use of various weapons, insanity
Equipment, 10 throwing knives, a sawed-off shotgun, 20 Fragmentation Grenades
Vs.
Brainiac
Powers: Vast intellect, Vast superhuman physical capabilities and energy manipulation powers derived from cybernetic body.
Environment: The Fifth Dimension. Mr. Mxyzptlk is present, and will be interfering in the fight.
Match B:
The Mandarin
Powers: Racist Chinese stereotype, skilled martial artist, possesses 10 alien rings
* Left Pinkie — "Ice Blast," with which he could encase foes in bands of ice or create walls of ice to block pursuers.
* Left Ring Finger — "Mental-Intensifier," which amplifies the Mandarin's own mental energies and allows him to control the minds of others.
* Left Middle Finger — "Electro Blast," unleashing powerful lightning-like bolts.
* Left Index Finger — "Flame Blast," a flamethrower-like gout of flame.
* Left Thumb — "White Light," a laser-like beam.
* Right Thumb — "Matter Rearranger," which can rearrange the atoms and molecules of a substance. The Mandarin usually uses this ring to change the shape of objects, such as causing a giant stone hand to erupt out of the earth and grapple a foe. He has, however, used it to transmute the molecular composition of objects, such as changing the air around a target into a poisonous gas.
* Right Index Finger — "Impact Beam," a blast of concussive or gravitational force.
* Right Middle Finger — "Vortex Beam," allows Mandarin to control air and wind, allowing him to fly.
* Right Ring Finger — "Disintegration Beam." Unlike the others, this Ring requires a twenty minute recharge time between firings.
* Right Pinkie — "Black Light," which can create areas of absolute blackness.
Vs.
Silver Samurai
Powers: Less racist Japanese stereotype, Channel mutant energy into anything, most commonly a sword, to create a tachyon field capable of cutting anything except adamantium, teleportation ring
Equipment: Two katanas, 20 shruiken
Environment: A battlefield in feudal Japan. Mandarin may not use his mind control ring, his matter rearranger, or his disintegration ring. All others he may use at will.
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because i said so
Edit: whippy I love you.
Well if Whippy says so, it's what I have to go with, too.
Aside from that, all Brainy has is superhuman capabilities and energy manipulation. I don't know how he usually utilizes these, the extent of the powers, and how good of a fighter he is, so if these warrant a victory then I'd like an explanation as to why.
Furthermore, Mr. M is going to favor the hot crazy girl.
Meanwhile, I favor the teleporter over Mandarin. Japan is his home and all he needs to do is get the drop and deliver a charged shuriken to the head.
Unless he's the kind of guy who thinks only he should be allowed the honor of defeating Superman?
Also, didn't Mr. M and Superman end on good terms last time they met?
You mean when he died or whatever?
Yeah, I guess
I don't think Brainiac is going to be able to follow Mxyzptlk. He would end up going DOES NOT COMPUTE. And Typhoid would just be laughing all the way to the win.
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I'm just pissed that Bizarro lost to a retard in a metal suit.
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in all seriousness, bizarro stood a snowball's chance in hell against doom. well...so does almost anybody else. he's pretty much the superman of this tournament (heh...yeah......*giggles*)
Whippy proves he's falliable just like other human beings.
Braniac and Mandarin.
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Mandarin vs Silver Samurai? I was beaten to the punch when it comes to suggesting SS for this tourny, but he's still my pick in my heart. Mandarin can't use his most powerful rings and they are in Japan so I'm going for the shiny dude with the sword.
Furthermore, I don't think Mandarin can do anything to stop charged shurikens or swords.
Mary has a fractured mind. People with cohesive minds have trouble keeping themselves together in the 5th Dimension. She can barely keep herself together in the third dimension, and this would translate to "she is going to literally fall apart" in the Fifth Dimension.
Also, Brainiac is much more powerful than anyone Mary has ever fought before. He has tremendous, tremendous strength and energy shooting pew pew pew capabilities. Mary is seriously outgunned.
And Mr. Mxyzptlk would probably be more interested in toying with Mary than Brainiac, because she presents a whole new challenge.
Brainiac and Mandarin, for sure.
And I think Mr. M would be more prone to toying with Braniac since he's a humorless robot, and presumably the reason M torments Superman is to get the guy to stop taking everything so seriously.
Braniac's wiki entry doesn't say much about his actual abilities. Also, presumably the most recent incarnation (13, if I'm reading correctly) was wiped from existence.
But you have a point about Mxy toying with Brainiac for that reason.
Still, very few things he would probably do to Brainiac would change the fact that Brainiac outclasses Mary by a laaarge margin.
And there's also the fact that sane people can lose all sense of self in the 5th Dimension, even Green Lanterns. It is incredibly difficult to not fall apart. Mary has trouble maintaining herself in the 3rd Dimension. She would not last for very long in the 5th.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure if Braniac would be any better at handling the 5th dimension than Mary. Have any robots visited the area before? Generally, I wouldn't expect a robot to deal well with a wholly incomprehensible environment. At least humans have imagination, nightmares, and sophisticated coping mechanisms, the first two preparing them in some way and the last supporting them.
Brainiac gets punched around by Superman, setting him on fire isn't going to do a hell of a lot
I don't think the Mary/Brainiac fight is cut and dry. In this world I would easily give it to Brains (he HAS to be fast to deal with Supes in any way). But the chaotic nature of the 5th dimension will favor Mary.
I like Doom's fights...he does his best to even the field.
I agree. In the normal world Brainiac would win, no contest. But in a place like the 5th dimension I could see a comuter having trouble comprehending the events going on around it. Im still not sure who would win, but alot of times the setting of the fight gets overlooked and in this fight it's pretty important.
Mary, on the other hand, is a different kind of crazy. She is a deeply emotionally disturbed individual with no real sense of self. She can barely keep herself together in the normal world, and that is going to be exponentially worse in the 5th Dimension, where normal people have incredible difficulty keeping their composure.
And Brainiac can comprehend a lot of things. Much more than a normal human. He would definitely be able to function in the 5th dimension. The 5th Dimension is still comprehensible, it's just much more different to spot the patterns.
Add to that the fact that Mary cannot harm Brainiac with her powers, because they are in no way able to even come close to scratching Superman, whom Brainiac has tussled with, one on one, I would give the fight to Brainiac by a fairly large margin. Not too large, though, because Mr. Mxyzptlk's interference would definitely fuck boith Mary and Brainiac up. I just think that Brainiac, who is mentally very, very stable, would be able to recover and adapt to Mxyzptlk's pranks much more quickly.
To Mary, the whole 5th Dimension must be like that one bit in Deadpool, when Deadpool goes to free her from the asylum. Deadpool de-cloaks and goes "OOGA BOOGA BOOGA!" or something similar to one of the nuts there who is about to be released. The guy curls up into a fetal position, all the years of therapy being destroyed in an instant.
The 5th Dimension to anyone as unstable as Mary is going to be like that, only constantly.
Could Mxy use his powers to temporarily "fix" Mary?
I can totally see Mxy powering down Brain to make things even. It would be "fun".
Yes. During the 5th Dimension's invasion of earth during Grant Morrison's run on JLA, Green Lantern and Captain Marvel go there through the Rock of Eternity. Green Lantern has extreme difficulties keeping himself together until Captain Marvel (who is resistant to much of the dimension's disorientig effects due to his magical nature) helps him.
Mary neither has as much willpower as Green Lantern, nor does she have Captain Marvel's resistance against magical effects, nor does she posess the general composure needed to stay in one piece there.
And while Mxy would probably antagonize Brainiac the most, he wouldn't do it in a way that would give Mary an easy victory, because that wouldn't be fun at all.
Maybe Mary and Brainy will be turned into Clor and Blue Beetle, respectively?