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Looking for a new card game

ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get alongRegistered User regular
edited June 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
A few friends and I are interested in a new card game of some sort. We're looking for something that isn't as complicated as Magic but is still creative and has some depth. We'd also prefer it didn't require buying deck after deck and booster pack after pack. There are some shops that might sell CCG sort of games. The only one I know of besides maybe comic shops is a place called the Game Board.

Anyone recommend some games we might be able to get into?

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2009
    James Ernest's Totally Renamed Spy Game

    originally called Before I Kill You, Mr. Bond

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Race for the Galaxy and Dominion are both fucking great, and neither is collectible (i.e. you buy the game, and that's it, though Race has an expansion you can also buy).

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Flux, its the game thats never the same as before!
    Easy to learn to.

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  • GuffreyGuffrey Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Munchkin

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  • RazielRaziel Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm going to second Munchkin. There are enough iterations of the game to suit your geekly tastes, be it fantasy, sci-fi, or cthulhu.

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  • SlickShughesSlickShughes Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Citadels is fucking awesome.

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I think if you get anything other than Race For The Galaxy you will never find happiness in life.

    Edit: Citadels is a great game, as well, but isn't as....Complex? As RftG. Citadels is about playing the people you are playing with. RftG is about building an empire.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Gloom. Also, Killer Bunnies.

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Seconding flux, although it definitely isn't something you could sit down and play for hours straight, but more of a thing to whip out whenever you guys are bored.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I've heard bad things about Flux for repeated plays. Munchkin inevitably turns into "everyone gang up on the guy at level 9," and gets boring quickly.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited May 2009
    Shogun wrote: »
    A few friends and I are interested in a new card game of some sort. We're looking for something that isn't as complicated as Magic but is still creative and has some depth. We'd also prefer it didn't require buying deck after deck and booster pack after pack. There are some shops that might sell CCG sort of games. The only one I know of besides maybe comic shops is a place called the Game Board.

    Anyone recommend some games we might be able to get into?

    While it's certainly not new, if you haven't played it I would definitely recommend Illuminati.

    cover_sm.jpg

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  • PlushyCthulhuPlushyCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Get Race for the Galaxy (and the xpac). It plays well 2-5 players and has a ton of replayability.

    Dominion is good too and has a very interesting mechanic, but for whatever reason it hasn't really become a staple.

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Texas Hold 'Em?

    (try it!)

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I've heard bad things about Flux for repeated plays. Munchkin inevitably turns into "everyone gang up on the guy at level 9," and gets boring quickly.

    I've played multiple games of 6-player Munchkin recently that ended up with the most ridiculous baseball between four people who were all level 9, and the others being really sneaky about their cards in order to make someone else use their card so they could save their card for someone else. It's awesome.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    Shogun wrote: »
    A few friends and I are interested in a new card game of some sort. We're looking for something that isn't as complicated as Magic but is still creative and has some depth. We'd also prefer it didn't require buying deck after deck and booster pack after pack. There are some shops that might sell CCG sort of games. The only one I know of besides maybe comic shops is a place called the Game Board.

    Anyone recommend some games we might be able to get into?

    While it's certainly not new, if you haven't played it I would definitely recommend Illuminati.

    cover_sm.jpg

    Yes! I forgot this was a pure card game. Unlike Flux, this game will take a good chunk of time.

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  • DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Race for the Galaxy and Dominion are both fucking great, and neither is collectible (i.e. you buy the game, and that's it, though Race has an expansion you can also buy).

    Seconding Dominion, game is awesome.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    We bought Killer Bunnies and highly enjoy it. There's a crapload of expansions, so you can invest as much or as little as you feel like. Just know that it is by far best to buy the expansions in order.

    Munchkin is a good game. In the same light, I would also highly recommend Chez Geek. It's much like munchkin, but instead of D&D theme, you're an average bachelor type, trying to earn Slack by buying things (booze, food, toys) and doing activities (movies, nookie, concerts, etc).

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  • ChalkbotChalkbot Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Race for the Galaxy and Dominion are both fucking great, and neither is collectible (i.e. you buy the game, and that's it, though Race has an expansion you can also buy).

    Seconding Dominion, game is awesome.

    Thirding Dominion.

    Seriously dude, it's really good.

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Yugioh?

    Seriously, it's not that bad, and you can do okay with one of those 10$ starter decks.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    The new Free Realms TCG is super fun, but it is collectible.

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  • SlagmireSlagmire Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Go old school: Cribbage. I finally learned how to play it not too long ago and thought it was great. You can play up to four people and it's cheap - all you need is the board (which are easily found) and a deck of cards.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    You could always make your own: 1000 blank white cards

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  • grungeboxgrungebox Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I've only heard great things about Dominion, like everyone here has said. It's top 10 on board game geek for a reason.

    As for CCGs, VTES (Vampire: The Eternal Struggle) is pretty fun. I'm not much for CCGs and only started playing a few months ago, but I like that's it requires a lot of strategy and social interaction. Also, you can field a decent deck for $20 (I've only spent maybe $30 and have won at the weekly game I play a few times). So that's an option.

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  • TarantioTarantio Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Slagmire wrote: »
    Go old school: Cribbage. I finally learned how to play it not too long ago and thought it was great. You can play up to four people and it's cheap - all you need is the board (which are easily found) and a deck of cards.

    You don't actually need a board- I had a 2 person board, and when I would play with three people I would just keep score by tally marks. 121 points wins the game, if you lose with less than 91 points you've been skunked, less than 61 points is a double skunk.

    Cribbage is a pretty great game, especially considering that it's a standard deck card game that can be played to full without betting.

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  • xeviqxeviq Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Fluxx
    Killer Bunnies
    Munchkin

    Hex Hex.
    It's like hot potato but crazier.

    Red Dragon Inn
    A game where you try and get the other players drunk as your characters are at a bar gambling.

    Falling
    An extremely fast paced game where you try to be the last to hit the ground as you fall through the sky.

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  • lizard eats flieslizard eats flies Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Im going to second:
    Citadels - Fun but you really need 4 people. It also can get pretty heated if you play like me and my friends. Its fairly simple, but games go quick, and i really dig the randomization system

    gloom - just picked it up. The basic game is to torment and kill your family. Its pretty simple (there are a few expansions too) but its fun if you take the RP/storytelling aspect and run with it.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    So I'm definitely looking into Red Dragon Inn, RftG, and Dominion. Every place I've called either doesn't sell them or is out of stock. I know of one place that has Dominion but its $50.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Gloom is so awesome.

    One way me and my friends play is, every time you do something good or bad to a member of one of the families, you have to make up a compelling story explaining what happened.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Yugioh?

    Seriously, it's not that bad, and you can do okay with one of those 10$ starter decks.
    i actually second this one. only problem with yugioh is netdecking (same as magic really) but yugioh has a ton of different strats to take advantage of or you can just play beat em up (and no spending hundreds of dollars in pain and shock lands just to have them cycle out in 3 months (grrr)

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shogun wrote: »
    So I'm definitely looking into Red Dragon Inn, RftG, and Dominion. Every place I've called either doesn't sell them or is out of stock. I know of one place that has Dominion but its $50.

    why aren't you buying off the internet? As far as single purchase games like the ones you listed? Buying off the internet will save you about 40%. http://www.boardgameprices.com/

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Yugioh?

    Seriously, it's not that bad, and you can do okay with one of those 10$ starter decks.
    i actually second this one. only problem with yugioh is netdecking (same as magic really) but yugioh has a ton of different strats to take advantage of or you can just play beat em up (and no spending hundreds of dollars in pain and shock lands just to have them cycle out in 3 months (grrr)

    I've always felt the game got a kinda bad rep. I'm sure the show was retarded but the actual game is pretty damn fun.

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  • akuteakute Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Organichu wrote: »
    Texas Hold 'Em?

    (try it!)

    My friend's level 40 King of Spades and L20 Queen of Diamonds both lost to suited Spades on the red river battlefield. Epic battle.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Yugioh?

    Seriously, it's not that bad, and you can do okay with one of those 10$ starter decks.
    i actually second this one. only problem with yugioh is netdecking (same as magic really) but yugioh has a ton of different strats to take advantage of or you can just play beat em up (and no spending hundreds of dollars in pain and shock lands just to have them cycle out in 3 months (grrr)

    I've always felt the game got a kinda bad rep. I'm sure the show was retarded but the actual game is pretty damn fun.
    though i will say i hated the time when cyber dragon and mobius were huge and everyone only played becks revolving around them. also yatta garasu and deck with catapult turtle and the scientist guy (edit: magical scientist)

    screw those eras

    (secretly i love yatta garasu era)

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  • KidDorkKidDork Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Lewisham wrote: »
    The new Free Realms TCG is super fun, but it is collectible.

    It is fun, when the site works.

    ( I went membership route and get a free booster each month, but to really compete you're going to have to shell out extra.)

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Yugioh?

    Seriously, it's not that bad, and you can do okay with one of those 10$ starter decks.
    i actually second this one. only problem with yugioh is netdecking (same as magic really) but yugioh has a ton of different strats to take advantage of or you can just play beat em up (and no spending hundreds of dollars in pain and shock lands just to have them cycle out in 3 months (grrr)

    I've always felt the game got a kinda bad rep. I'm sure the show was retarded but the actual game is pretty damn fun.
    though i will say i hated the time when cyber dragon and mobius were huge and everyone only played becks revolving around them. also yatta garasu and deck with catapult turtle and the scientist guy (edit: magical scientist)

    screw those eras

    (secretly i love yatta garasu era)

    what I like about the game is pretty much anything can be countered if you keep enough magic and traps in your deck. Heck, thats usually how i win most games.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Yugioh?

    Seriously, it's not that bad, and you can do okay with one of those 10$ starter decks.
    i actually second this one. only problem with yugioh is netdecking (same as magic really) but yugioh has a ton of different strats to take advantage of or you can just play beat em up (and no spending hundreds of dollars in pain and shock lands just to have them cycle out in 3 months (grrr)

    I've always felt the game got a kinda bad rep. I'm sure the show was retarded but the actual game is pretty damn fun.
    though i will say i hated the time when cyber dragon and mobius were huge and everyone only played becks revolving around them. also yatta garasu and deck with catapult turtle and the scientist guy (edit: magical scientist)

    screw those eras

    (secretly i love yatta garasu era)

    what I like about the game is pretty much anything can be countered if you keep enough magic and traps in your deck. Heck, thats usually how i win most games.
    i preferred my field control flip decks with a bit of burn myself

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  • JNighthawkJNighthawk Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    If you're getting Race for the Galaxy, I won't bother mentioning San Juan - they're so similar that you only need one, and Race is the right choice.

    Since you've got a few good recommendations for games already, I'll recommend some shops!

    www.coolstuffinc.com - Local in Winter Park, FL. They've got a good loyalty program.
    www.myriadgames.com - Local in Salem, NH.

    Both are brick and mortar and "your local games store" stores. I've been to both and they're staffed by fantastic people that deserve patronage.

    Oh yeah. They're also both like 20-30% off MSRP.

    EDIT: Titan: The Arena. It's a fun, gambling-type game. It's only in-game gambling... unless, of course, you also make it out of game :-)

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shogun wrote: »
    So I'm definitely looking into Red Dragon Inn, RftG, and Dominion. Every place I've called either doesn't sell them or is out of stock. I know of one place that has Dominion but its $50.

    why aren't you buying off the internet? As far as single purchase games like the ones you listed? Buying off the internet will save you about 40%. http://www.boardgameprices.com/

    Because I wanted to see if I could pick one of the games up today so me and my mates could play it. I ended up tracking down the last copy of Race for the Galaxy. Our first game was long but the learning curve isn't too high. We had fun and the second game went even better. We had a 4th player and had to re-explain everything so it took a while but I did much better in terms of strategy and points. We're very pleased thus far. I still plan on checking out Red Dragon Inn when my local store gets some back in.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'll second Race for the Galaxy, Citadels and Dominion. All class-A games, right there.

    On the collectible side, Fantasy Flight has actually begun a rather interesting experiment with their two "collectible" card games, Call of Cthulhu and Game of Thrones. Instead of releasing "sets" they have transformed the concept into a "Living Card Game" in which you can buy smaller packs of fixed cards, which a new "chapter" being released each month. I can vouch for GoT as a very good CCG, if you're into the IP. Costs tend to be lower, and the fact that you can "expand" the game with sets of fixed cards takes a lot of the $$ and pressure off to "have the best."

    Otherwise, Red Dragon Inn (and everything made by Slugfest) is really fun and rather silly. Great "Beer 'n Pretzels" game.

    Kung-Fu is a non-collectable, fast p[laying card game in which you literally just try to beat the crap out of your opponent while parrying and dodging their attacks. A lot of fun with more than 2 players, but still worthwhile. It's quick and easy and rather simple to break out for a spontaneous game.

    The missus and I have been exploring Cold War, which is another Fantasy Flight card game a la Citadels. Stricktly two-player in which you play as either the CIA or KGB fighting over third-world countries and other objectives. A character system in some ways similar to Citadels keeps the action moving.

    If you can find it (and you should be able to online) Pimp: The Backhanding was a card game released by White Wolf in which players take the roll of Pimps and Hos. I'll stop there, but suffice to say you can use a "Deep Fat Fryer" as a weapon. Don't play with women unless you know them really well.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    Spades, its what manly men play. If you are feeling hardcore enough after that you could try out some bones.

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