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healthier eating (juice)

beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
edited June 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
so for the past few months, i've been trying (key word...trying) to eat healthier

It's a slow transition. I stopped drinking pop and switched to vitamin water (before you all freak out, canadian vitamin water does not have high fuctose corn syrup in it the way that the american juice does. i'm staring at the bottle now, it's got cane sugar in it. still high in sugar and fatty as anything... but everyone always jumps down my throat with "OH GOD THAT'S THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD")

anyways, i want to transition off of this. it's expensive and it doesn't do much for you at all
I have been thinking of getting a juicer
like this one: http://www.powerjuicer.com/

I have some friends who have one and they love it

however, it's pretty expensive.
do any of you have this juicer or another juicer and what do you think of it?

couldn't i really just use a blender? cause i'm pretty sure i can get one of those for like 10 bucks
and when you make blended juices at home, how long do they keep in the fridge for?

also, any links to recipes would be great.
thanks!

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  • PongePonge Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Sorry Beav, no idea about the juicer/blender but why don't you try buying plain old bottled water and squeezing half a lemon into it before you drink it? It should give you that faint taste of vitamin water without the extremely bad stuff.

    Why the hell do they need to put sugar in water??!?

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    i used to do that actually, it tasted good.
    but i want to be getting more of my daily fruit/veggie intake
    and potentially chuck some yogurt in there since i don't ever eat yogurt and i've been told i really should because of the probiotic benefits.

    the only way i seem to like getting as much as i should is in smoothie form, so i figured i'd give it a shot.

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  • EtheaEthea Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I subject myself to a serving of V8 High Fibre & Low Sodium daily. While it is not perfect I find it is an okay way to get 2 servings of vegetables in.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You can do well with a cheap blender, orange juice does not need to be prepared with it though :). You have to be careful when preparing juice from fruits that contain seeds because they can damage the blades, short bursts (on-offs) should do the trick . The problem with juice is fermentation, usually two or three days is my mark.

    Healthy eating must include natural yogurt from time to time , red meat or liver in moderation, and fresh vegetables such as lettuce. Quit Coke and any energy drink you could be used to. Olive oil is recommended in cooking, and the consumption of red wine made of grapes in small quantities has been proved to reduce colesterol.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    thanks fantasma!
    this was really helpful.

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  • Hardleft_335Hardleft_335 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Is there a type of wine that isnt made from grapes?

    My experience with juicers is that they are big, loud, and difficult to clean. You can buy juice that has nothing added and save the hassle or just go with smoothies. Who doesn't love a smoothie anyway?

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Is there a type of wine that isnt made from grapes?

    My girlfriend loves a Kosher Red Wine that is actually not made of grapes, it is very sweet and high in alcohol.

    I don't remember the name though, and as far as I can remember, Night Train is made of apples ;)

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    There's nothing wrong with diet soda, as well. I can't stand the flavor of most diet sodas, as the aspartame really stands out to me (same with the "zero" sodas) -- however, I discovered that diet root beer apparently has a mix of flavors that "cancels out" the artificial sweetener aftertaste.

    I usually drink water or wine but will have a couple cans of diet a&w root beer a week, for some variety. It's essentially like drinking water, without being so boring.

    As for your actual juice question, I would suggest that yes, you get a blender and make smoothies if you're lookign to actually be healthy in your liquid fruit intake. Generally fruit juices are not exactly healthy, as they have a great deal of calories with all of the fiber filtered out, but you get everything with a smoothie.

    My boss makes smoothies every day with homemade yogurt (which she claims is quite easy to do, and you can get the consistency you prefer, and it's a lot cheaper), and that's her breakfast. The yogurt helps up the protein so it's not just drinking sugar.

    You usually don't need to eat a lot of fruits, though -- vegetables are where it's at. Not that there's anything wrong with nomin' an apple or a banana.

    incidentally neither my wife nor myself like smoothies, so if you haven't had many smoothies you may want to find a local place that sells smoothies and get one each day, to see if you like it, before you buy a blender and start adding it to your routine. I will also say that while you can find a cheap blender, the cheap ones usually break quickly or do a poor job blending or are difficult to clean. My current blender cost $80 from woot and I love the thing, and it comes apart so it's incredibly easy to clean (and it kicks food's ass).

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with diet soda, as well. I can't stand the flavor of most diet sodas, as the aspartame really stands out to me (same with the "zero" sodas) -- however, I discovered that diet root beer apparently has a mix of flavors that "cancels out" the artificial sweetener aftertaste.

    I usually drink water or wine but will have a couple cans of diet a&w root beer a week, for some variety. It's essentially like drinking water, without being so boring.

    As for your actual juice question, I would suggest that yes, you get a blender and make smoothies if you're lookign to actually be healthy in your liquid fruit intake. Generally fruit juices are not exactly healthy, as they have a great deal of calories with all of the fiber filtered out, but you get everything with a smoothie.

    My boss makes smoothies every day with homemade yogurt (which she claims is quite easy to do, and you can get the consistency you prefer, and it's a lot cheaper), and that's her breakfast. The yogurt helps up the protein so it's not just drinking sugar.

    You usually don't need to eat a lot of fruits, though -- vegetables are where it's at. Not that there's anything wrong with nomin' an apple or a banana.

    incidentally neither my wife nor myself like smoothies, so if you haven't had many smoothies you may want to find a local place that sells smoothies and get one each day, to see if you like it, before you buy a blender and start adding it to your routine. I will also say that while you can find a cheap blender, the cheap ones usually break quickly or do a poor job blending or are difficult to clean. My current blender cost $80 from woot and I love the thing, and it comes apart so it's incredibly easy to clean (and it kicks food's ass).

    Diet Dr. Pepper is good too. Again, the combination of flavors helps cut out the sweetener's aftertaste.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Is V-8 overall good for you or about neutral or worse? I really don't mind the taste, if I could justify adding it to my diet that'd be a good source of whatever.

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  • TheungryTheungry Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    FYI - when considering smoothies, they tend to have a very high caloric content/density and should be considered more of a meal than a beverage or snack.

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  • TheungryTheungry Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Is V-8 overall good for you or about neutral or worse? I really don't mind the taste, if I could justify adding it to my diet that'd be a good source of whatever.

    "good for you" is kind of contextual in relation to the rest of your diet. looking at the basic flavor 8 ounce serving size, 50 calories with 2 grams of fiber is pretty good for a flavored beverage. The high fiber flavor has 5 grams of fiber in 60 calories, which is actually quite excellent dietarily.

    the fusion drinks and fruit splash drinks are predictably much higher in sugar and contain no fiber, so its pretty much empty calories, not recommendable for "healthy eating" by any definition I'm familiar with. Yes it has some vitamins, but it is like eating cap'n crunch to increase your folic acid intake. If you cared that much about the vitamins, there are 7 million better ways.

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  • Hardleft_335Hardleft_335 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Blenders are just good things to have around. Smoothies, margaritas, hummus, etc.

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  • EtheaEthea Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Theungry wrote: »
    Is V-8 overall good for you or about neutral or worse? I really don't mind the taste, if I could justify adding it to my diet that'd be a good source of whatever.

    "good for you" is kind of contextual in relation to the rest of your diet. looking at the basic flavor 8 ounce serving size, 50 calories with 2 grams of fiber is pretty good for a flavored beverage. The high fiber flavor has 5 grams of fiber in 60 calories, which is actually quite excellent dietarily.

    the fusion drinks and fruit splash drinks are predictably much higher in sugar and contain no fiber, so its pretty much empty calories, not recommendable for "healthy eating" by any definition I'm familiar with. Yes it has some vitamins, but it is like eating cap'n crunch to increase your folic acid intake. If you cared that much about the vitamins, there are 7 million better ways.

    if drinking V8 stick to the High Fibre & Low Sodium version, it is your best bet for a healthy solution. Stay away from the flavored or fruit blends.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think normal V8 is a bit high on the sodium, but I bought the Low Sodium version once and wasn't as motivated to drink it, didn't like the taste as much. Personal preference really; to me I figured it'd be better to take the sodium and actually drink the stuff than not get the vegetables at all.

    A decent blender should do you fine for getting most fruits and vegetables into a drinkable format, and it'll be a lot cheaper than a juicer. Unless you're putting out gallons of fresh squeezed OJ or pomegranite juice, I don't think a juicer would be worth the investment.

    Yogurt is a good thing to stick into pretty much anything fruit-related you're blending; if you're into smoothies for the summer then stick a couple bananas, apple chunks, berries, whathaveyou, into the freezer - you'll get a nicer smoothie consistency with frozen fruit. Carrots added in usually work great flavor-wise and they keep you feeling full for a good long time.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yeah I was really referring to the basic, tiny can, generic fruit juice V-8. I've always mentally put the fusion stuff in the same category as vitamin water.

    In general my vegetable intake is pretty low, but my girlfriend is working on it. I'd say I probably have vegetables maybe once or twice a week, so if I could drink a can of V-8 every day(if vegetables are that important) then I should probably do that.

    I don't give as much attention to my diet as I should in general. I just try to avoid eating crap, and don't drink regular soda or juices/energy drinks when I can avoid it.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So, on that discussion. Is the benefits of getting closer to your veggie goals for the day generally going to outweigh the need to avoid sodium, based on the usual high-sodium American diet?

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Diet Dr. Pepper is good too.

    Seriously. It tastes exactly like regular Dr. Pepper. It's amazing.

    Beav, if I may ask, are you looking for weight loss, or just for more healthy substances in your diet? Juice is "healthier" than pop, but if you're knocking back a half gallon of juice every day, you're still throwing a lot of calories down your neck.

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  • TheungryTheungry Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    In response to the sodium content, one should be concerned with sodium if they eat a lot of processed food, fast food, or have high blood pressure. Otherwise, sodium isn't a big health factor. One more reason "good for you" is a very contextual phrase when it comes to food.

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  • BearcatBearcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This may be derailment, but I'd urge you to eat actual food instead of substituting it for a liquid form. Eating an orange is more beneficial than drinking orange juice, apple instead of apple juice, et cetera.

    Being able to throw all your favorites into a blender and experimenting does sound fun though.

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  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Is V-8 overall good for you or about neutral or worse? I really don't mind the taste, if I could justify adding it to my diet that'd be a good source of whatever.

    As has been mentioned it's kind of high in sodium but if you don't eat a lot of processed foods that's alright (assuming you are talking about regular old vegetable cocktail V8).

    I will point out that The Mott's garden cocktail is unfortunately not an alternative as the second ingredient is high fructose corn syrup (or glucose-fructose as it's known as in Canada) and I don't recall there being any sugar (except the natural occurring sugars in the fruits/veggies) found in regular V8.

    EDIT: Oh, I didn't even see the posts where they point out low sodium versions.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    tsmvengy wrote: »

    Diet Dr. Pepper is good too. Again, the combination of flavors helps cut out the sweetener's aftertaste.

    I find that Coke Zero Cherry is very tasty as well.

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  • necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with diet soda, as well.

    Wrong. There are literally hundreds of things wrong with diet soda.

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  • necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    Bearcat wrote: »
    This may be derailment, but I'd urge you to eat actual food instead of substituting it for a liquid form. Eating an orange is more beneficial than drinking orange juice, apple instead of apple juice, et cetera.

    Yes, eating the actual fruit and/or vegetable is better for you than juicing it up and drinking it as concentrated juice slurry.

    You get the proper amount of fiber to go along with the juice, you have to actually chew, and you don't end up consuming 12 oranges worth of calories, plus whatever goddamned sweeteners get thrown in.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    necroSYS wrote: »
    EggyToast wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with diet soda, as well.

    Wrong. There are literally hundreds of things wrong with diet soda.

    Like?

    I can think of caffeine off the top of my head...but moderation and all that.

    I know that some think that those artificial sweeteners can potentially cause cancer...in huge amounts. Once again..moderation.

    I see nothing wrong with a diet soda once a day or something along those lines.

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  • necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    Heir wrote: »
    necroSYS wrote: »
    EggyToast wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with diet soda, as well.

    Wrong. There are literally hundreds of things wrong with diet soda.

    Like?

    I can think of caffeine off the top of my head...but moderation and all that.

    I know that some think that those artificial sweeteners can potentially cause cancer...in huge amounts. Once again..moderation.

    I see nothing wrong with a diet soda once a day or something along those lines.

    They are still carbonated, which leaches calcium from your bones.

    They are usually higher in sodium than water or juice.

    The artificial sweeteners they use can still provoke the same kind of insulin resistance response in people who haven't used sugar in a while.

    They're more full of chemicals than the average cleaning product.

    For starters....

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I don't eat the fancy, healthy yogurt everyone keeps harping on. Would slicing fruit and throwing it in a bowl of yogurt be a healthier substitute to putting it all in a blender? Would that be disgusting with something like broccoli and tomatoes?

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Would that be disgusting with something like broccoli and tomatoes?

    D:D:D:

    I can't imagine it being anything but sickening.
    D:

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    necroSYS wrote: »
    EggyToast wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with diet soda, as well.

    Wrong. There are literally hundreds of things wrong with diet soda.

    Hey now, conspiracy theories belong in D&D. My wife has a PhD in neuroscience, is published in high-impact journals, and drinks two diet sodas a day. Aspartame is harmless, unless you have a particular allergy to amino acids.

    edit:
    You're really arguing that bubbly soda, aka carbon dioxide, leeches calcium from your bones?

    And my wife just was at a conference where two independent researchers discovered that the ACTUAL response from artificial sweeters was not that a body did anything regarding insulin, but that the lack of calories actually made the body LESS desiring of sweet -- because the body associated "sweet" with "no calories."

    Besides, I'm sure that, uh, the entire diabetic population of the US would have a word with said conspiracy, as they consume a fair amount of diet soda.


    Anyway, Beav, if you're looking to just up your fruit/veggie intake, get the blender and make smoothies, easy soups, and so on. Juicers are generally low-use, and they simply press the sugar out of the fruit, leaving the fiber and other goodies with the rind and pulp (in the juicer). As you've found, they're also much pricier compared to a cheap blender, and blenders can be used for many more purposes. Look up some good veggie-based soups, bisques, and so on, and you'll likely be quite happy with a blender.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I don't think he's attacking aspartame. He's attacking high sodium content (with no benefit) and carbonation.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    i certainly don't see any sort of soda being GOOD for you
    maybe not the deathly killer than everyone thinks it is, but it's not benefiting you in any way to drink it, no one will argue that point.

    and as for the weight loss vs. health question, i am a pretty tiny girl, but i've gained just a slight belly lately that i wouldn't be adverse to getting rid of
    however, i think that just eating healthy at all and daily exercise will help
    so healthy choices is what i'm looking for.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    sodium in diet root beer? It's got 45mg, or about 2% of a person's recommended daily intake (according to the American Heart Association).

    The yogurt everyone is recommending carries 3 times as much sodium.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm a huge fan of tea.

    Green tea specifically. Iced.

    You can make up so much of that stuff on the cheap it's great.

    Just get some green tea bags and brew it up. You can then add honey, faux-sugar, lemons, orange slices..whatever to it.

    It chills in your fridge and you're good to go.

    Green tea is also awesome for just about everything to do with your health, including weight loss and antioxidents and all that.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    sodium in diet root beer? It's got 45mg, or about 2% of a person's recommended daily intake (according to the American Heart Association).

    The yogurt everyone is recommending carries 3 times as much sodium.

    Yeah, the can of coke zero I just drank had a whopping 30mg of sodium. I think I'll live.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I don't eat the fancy, healthy yogurt everyone keeps harping on. Would slicing fruit and throwing it in a bowl of yogurt be a healthier substitute to putting it all in a blender? Would that be disgusting with something like broccoli and tomatoes?

    I can't imagine how sticking food in a blender before you consume it would alter the nutritional content at all.

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  • TheungryTheungry Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Regarding the blender Vs slicing fruit and dropping it in yogurt, the only two pitfalls I can think of are

    A) You might end up portioning differently inadvertently.
    B) You might consume the blended version faster and feel less satisfied, and thus maybe eat more?

    Really, what Jeffe said: nothing about running it through a blender should change the nutritional content.

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  • EtheaEthea Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I don't eat the fancy, healthy yogurt everyone keeps harping on. Would slicing fruit and throwing it in a bowl of yogurt be a healthier substitute to putting it all in a blender? Would that be disgusting with something like broccoli and tomatoes?

    I can't imagine how sticking food in a blender before you consume it would alter the nutritional content at all.

    Only thing that could happen is that you don't consume as much as you leave small amounts in the blender, but the quantity difference really shouldn't cause concern.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh god tea is so good. Iced tea is absurdly easy to make and it tastes great, especially with a little lemon, and it's unsweetened by default so yeaaaaaaah!

    In regards to yogurt, I've heard good things about greek yogurt, but that may be related to the taste and not the healthiness, I'm not entirely sure. Can anyone chime in?

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