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He joked about it on his show too.
And then his wife divorced him for it. So yeah, doing that is a dick move.
I think part of the reason people hate CAD, despite the fact that it's aggressively mediocre, is that it just has a very smug, smarmy quality to it that just grates on the nerves. Like how the asshole protagonist somehow convinces the world to give him his own Christmas holiday (ripped off from Homestar Runner) that involves him being king of the world or somesuch. It's the case study of Mary Sue, combined with condescension.
Heh, not quite. :? I am, however, saying that Tim Buckley's apparent injustices are not worth directing my hatred at, both for practical reasons and matters of personal conviction.
Now, if this were "Why does everyone dislike Tim Buckley?", that would be different. And I don't think it's unreasonable to discuss why people dislike the CAD Comic.
Then again, I'm probably juts one of those tight-asses who takes 'hate' too seriously, and reserves for specific issues. Hate is going to have a variety of emotional responses anyway. By thinking people are taking things out of proportion with "I hate Tim Buckley, I hope bad things happen to that douchebag so his comic stops, etc.", of course, that might just mean I'm taking hate itself out of proportion.
I personally love 8-bit a lot. I'm pretty sure everyone dislikes only Tim.
I think I'm gong to go with the latter. For instance, I love potatoes and I hate broccoli. This does not mean that I am going to move to Idaho and penetrate the soil nor am I going to devise a method of firebombing...wherever the hell broccoli gets produced.
Now, if the thread title were 'Why does everyone plot to subvert Tim Buckley and assault him on the street' you might have a stronger point...
If we hadn't already had some of the responses we've already seen and, and if overreaction, to me, was limited to physical harm in a public setting, you might have a better point, but I can understand what you're getting at. This could just be a consequence of having learned English late in life, and certain words having different contextual meanings normally associated with them. If someone asked me, outside of a joking term "What do you hate?", I'd have to think about it a while, rather than just give a list of things that bother me consistently, like cheese on vegetables or my allergies.
And in about five minutes, I'd probably end up saying something like "apartheid".
Hearing that Clevinger likes Buckley makes me like him (Clevinger) a little less.
If Tim Buckley isn't important enough to "hate," then why is he important enough to defend from such overreactionary displays of hate?
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Except that the forum isn't overrun with people actively attempting to tangent threads into a treatise on their loathing for CAD and Buckley. If the topic/issue ever comes up then the mocking will undoubtedly commence, but that's how conversations work and is more evidence of a passive disliking than abject hatred. That he manages to warrant so much passive displeasure seems to point towards something. Particularly since the reasons and responses given all seem to mirror each other a lot. Chiefly that he's a talentless douche bag that's too full of himself even in comparison to someone who actually has some small scrapings of talent.
His cunning (artistic?) use of the blur filter gives him plausible deniability.
Also, Yar, I hate you for making me look at CAD. I had a nice streak going...
Actually, no, you're wrong. I didn't intend to change the topic of the thread, just to comment on it. I just think it's a pretty obvious case of overreaction.
Criticizing overreaction not in an act of defense of a subject, but as a criticism of overreaction isn't that unusual. At least, I don't think it is. Frankly, I didn't know that much about Tim Buckley anyway (I don't spend that much time on message boards, and I've never visited CAD's message boards to my knowledge). If I am defending Buckley (which I wasn't aware that I was), it's as an unintentional consequence to my criticism of overreaction.
And personally, I tend to mentally frown upon overreaction of any course. Probably just the tendency of a busybody. Given that the the thread itself is not what most people would call a dire, serious matter, I don't think that's out of line either, but I could be mistaken.
Point taken. I'm not saying he's not talentless, or not a douchebag, etc., but the initial tone of the conversation left an impression on me. Frankly, I would have imagine people would have preferred to ignore him (since CAD isn't even nearly as well known as PA, I think), but obviously, that's not the case.
Then again, I should have probably picked up on that given all the unflattering edits they have for PA comics (though, apparently, not as many as there are CAD edits) you can find on other online boards/groups/whatever. I thought those were in bad taste as well, but that might just be because I can't draw to save my life.
Many.
FUCKING.
Words.
And he's not funny.
Do you have any idea how long it takes him to write all those words?
Probably isn't too hard to find.
Oh, and a while back there was a New Comic thread in SE++ for a PA comic that had no text and had 3 frames, showing Gabe doing some intense physical training in preparation for a ping pong tournament. Some forumer made a "CAD Edit" and Gabe saw it on the forums and praised it. That was delicious.
The sad thing is, if he actually drew the comics he might develop some artistic variety, just out of sheer boredom.
What? Noooo! I loved CADsucks! Please tell you have more of those comics saved!
Yup, here it is.
http://www.starslip.com/ham/index.html
He has a lot of die hard fans that will pick up whatever he's selling, even his poorly contrived animated series.
It's like I don't even know you anymore PA...
http://www.drunkduck.com/Buckleys_World/index.php?p=73542
I can't really see why anybody reads them, though. I mean, I just read through the last month's worth of stuff and it seemed like all the strips were missing the punch line or something.
I asked for the name of the comic on the first or second page, but no one helped me locate it.
What Buckley is is combine that lack of talent with a bottomless ego and a near sociopathic inability to deal with other people.
Turns out it's about some dude that draws some comic I've never heard of. Color me disappointing.
On the plus side, I learned that Buckley's son Christopher wrote Thank You For Smoking and endorsed Obama, much to his pop's chagrin I'm sure.
That said, I don't really care enough about him to hate him, though if some of his tyrannical forum escapades are true I probably wouldn't like him very much.
Sociopathic? o_O
I'll defer to people who have been observing him for much longer, but this is a little surprising.
...who?
The miscarriage thread was a disaster, but I sort of sensed that it was coming. I had read a couple of his comics previously, though I grew tired of the recurring storyline feed he gave with this female and his friend. It was tedious and somewhat odd, like wish fulfillment. The pregnancy etc was an obvious part of the story, and so in the end I thought to myself that something dramatical was going to occur. Lo and behold, a miscarriage. The most depressing terrible thing to happen to any person is depicted out in very poorly drawn supposedly dramatical comic, put onto the Net.
Surely Buckley realised the effect this would have? Surely he realised that the Net would not suddenly respect him and read his comics, but ridicule him? From what I can gather though he's very arrogant and probably just ignores it. How he's able to do that though beggars belief. Perhaps he's so high on a pedastal he can't see us anymore.
Nonetheless, after that I didn't touch the CAD website. I expected him to say something in his articles to give credance to his comic. Nothing. Not even any sort of comments or backlash against the plethora of spoofs that came from it (my favourite is the Battlestar Galactica one!). It's like the man is in a bubble! He doesn't see the people laughing around him. At him.
I don't hate Buckley. I don't hate anyone on the Net because to be honest I know none of you, and you don't know me. Hate is a useless word on the Net. I just think the man really needs to either recognise the complaints and ridicule around him and try and compensate (because in the end his comic is a service supply) or finish it up and dissapear from the Net.
He won't though. His forumites love the dick.
Oh, just some dead guy that once threatened to punch out Noam Chomsky.
Ah. Say no more.
I'm always impressed by how famous someone can get by threatening to punch someone else out. Time was, you used to have to actually punch someone. Like in the Legislative Yuan.
I applaud WMain00's point (and for explaining it clearly). I could myself lucky--apathy is bliss.
Have you not been reading the thread? The WoW Guild incident alone shows a man with a dangerous inability to actually deal with people.
Yes I have, but I didn't translate that into sociopathy (I also have a habit of distinguishing social behavior online from in reality). Then again, it has something of a loose definition (dissocial versus antisocial). Still worrying, all the same.
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He also edited some magazine for like 35 years. But I digress.
In any event, in the interest of being on topic, I looked at this Tim guys comic and my life was not improved in any way, shape, or form. So there.
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Pretty sure you're referring to the time he threatened to punch Gore Vidal after the man called him a "Crypto-Nazi", but I have no doubt William F. Buckley didn't much care for Chomsky either.
You people should have elaborated! That's plenty noteworthy, but he left before I'd even come to this country. That's like me expecting Moniker to know who James Soong is.
Oh man, that Gore Vidal quote was great too... I nearly forgot about that.
But I'm gonna get out of here before I drag this thing too far of course. Maybe I'll make a thread for old Willy.
The CAD rule ALWAYS applies. It completely changes what the comic is about, but then again that's necessary to make it anywhere remotely close to "Not eye-gougingly unfunny."
You're in for a shock, because one time I watched a video of him drawing a single panel he did for Christmas break and even in fast forward it took way too damn long.
The reason I watched it was because I heard it included him opening a file full of pre-drawn eyes to slap on, and indeed it did.