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Star Wars: The Old Republic - We Have Returned

exisexis Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in MMO Extravaganza
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49936.html
UPDATE 13/08: New four part, twenty minute developer walkthrough, with a whole heap of gameplay footage.

Star Wars: The Old Republic is BioWare's attempt at a Star Wars based MMO. Though it was only officially announced in October 2008, it's been in development since 2006. BioWare are renowned for their compelling RPG storylines, and they're lauding The Old Republic as "the first, truly story driven MMO". Be excited.

General stuff
  • Full cinematic cutscenes
  • Fully voice acted dialogue for all NPC's and players, including multiple voice actors for player characters for differentiation
  • TOR is set about 3000 years before the movie, and about 300 years after the timeline of KotoR. Fortunately this also means there are a lot of Sith and Jedi around, so it won't be quite so jarring seeing a million Darth Sitharoth's on day one
  • Some characters from KotoR will be in the game (eg. we know HK-47 is around)
  • Four starting planets: Hutta, Tython, Korriban, Ord Mantell
  • Completely unique stories for each class, including a hard-set end to each story line. There will be new content to extend each story line
  • GamesRadar wrote:
    We have to ignore the top of the hardcore,” says Walton, talking about those players who will simply ignore the story and min-max their way to the top end of the game. “We need to make a game that is accessible to the Star Wars fan, and the BioWare fan. Because really BioWare is a company that is about making a great RPG experience, not about making games for a hardcore MMO audience.
Gameplay
  • Everything you'd expect from an MMO: PvP, high-end PvE and raids, in-game economy, crafting, auction house, etc etc
  • Localized instancing - when interacting with quest NPC's you will be the only player in that instance
  • Dialog selection is via a Mass Effect style wheel
  • Some sort of space-based gameplay, which we don't know anything about yet
  • No auto-attack
  • Combat is intended to move a lot quicker than in traditional MMO's
    MMOs are very slow-paced, it’s you versus one enemy, and you hit him fifteen times until he dies. That’s something we’ve consciously moved away from in Star Wars: The Old Republic. You’re fighting against multiple enemies, the action is fast-paced, there’s a lot more animations going on.
  • Loot dependent upon light/dark side as well as class
  • Choices can change the course of an instance (eg. kill/spare an NPC)
  • GamesRadar wrote:
    They want to reduce the grind – removing the tedious fetch 10 and kill 20 quests that plague the genre – and tie everything into their story
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic allows players to make moral choices, whether they are a Jedi serving the Republic or a Sith Warrior serving the Empire. The story of this character is written with the assumption that players will faithfully serve the Empire and perform their missions ruthlessly. However, there are many choices where players can choose to resist the temptations of the dark side and try to minimize the suffering that their missions might cause. Because the Sith Warrior is a servant of the Empire, he must perform his acts of compassion carefully. He might tell someone he was ordered to kill to get off-world and never return, thus completing his mission in the eyes of his master but without murdering someone who didn't particularly deserve it.
Classes and factions

There will be eight playable classes. So far four classes have been 'officially' announced. There will be two playable factions:

The Sith Empire
Bounty Hunter
  • Think Boba Fett
  • Primarily ranged combat class: flame thrower, rocket launches, stun grenades
  • Starting world is Hutta
  • Story arc called "The Great Hunt"
  • Death From Above ability: Hovers in air firing down on target
Sith Warrior
  • Officially announced at GamesCom (see GameSpot interview - lots of detailed info)
  • Home world will be Korriban
  • Inspired by Darth Vadar
  • A "heavily armored Force user driven by darkness and rage"
  • "attacks are all about uncontrollable rage and the overwhelming use of force"
  • "Spender" abilities - powerful abilities available once the character has whipped himself into a rage - sounds a lot like rogue finishing moves in WoW
  • Depending on character development, can function as either single or multiple target damage dealers
  • Abilities include Force Jump and Force Choke
  • Demo showed sith automatically deflecting blaster fire with their lightsaber
  • Dual wielding mother fucking lightsabers
  • Earn points by swiping and smashing, spend them on finishing moves
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The Galactic Republic
Smuggler
  • ie. Han Solo
  • Story will revolve around, shockingly, shipment smuggling
  • Relies on the cover mechanic, with some abilities only usable when behind cover.
  • Cover mechanic shows a stick-figure silhouette at potential cover spots
  • Starting planet is Ord Mantell
Trooper
  • "Basically a badass with lots of guns"
Jedi
  • Not officially announced
  • Home world will be Tython
  • Perhaps employing the use of the force. Maybe.
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Official Site
Bioware are also publishing a regular webcomic, filling in story details around the setting.
Official boards info thread - a hell of a lot of information, peruse at your peril

Aug 18 09: Sith Warrior announced - interview with creative director James Ohlen
July 7th 09: GamesRadar hands-on
June 4th 09: Joystiq gameplay impressions
June 4th 09: Massively gameplay impressions
Oct 21st 08: IGN Preview

Video
Four part, twenty minute developer walkthrough showing off voiced NPC interaction, the Sith Warrior, Smuggler and Bounty Hunter classes, and a Flash Point.
Gameplay footage - about three minutes of gorgeous environments, and a couple more of combat
IGN Live Demo at E3. Showing a bit of gameplay with UI.
Official Video Documentary #3: Gameplay video showing off voice acting and combat. Is awesome.

Behind the scenes: the making of the trooper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=853YINfdQ0I

Inside Gaming interview with executive producer Tom Nichols.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgtZTXrZ4JQ

E3 Interview with co-General manager of BioWare. Not much new info, some comments about the Smuggler class and intent with the story.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/50796.html
widowson's not-really-fail-proof Star Wars name generator
widowson wrote:
Stupid names are especially inexcusable considering how easy it is to make your Star Wars name.

First 2 letters of first two names is Star Wars first name
First 3 letters of last name is Start Wars last name.

Examples:

Barak Hussein Obama = Bahu Oba
George Herbert Bush = Gehe Bus
James Tiberius Kirk = Jati Kir
John Quincy Adams = Joqu Ada

I have yet to see it not work...

Credit to Henroid and Castigator for info from the old OP. More updates coming, please let me know of any big stuff I'm missing.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I could watch that video for the rest of time. Amazing OP! :mrgreen:

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  • MifioMifio MrrlendRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    To christen this new thread.
    Let me ask a simple question.

    Jedi Or Sith?

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mifio wrote: »
    To christen this new thread.
    Let me ask a simple question.

    Jedi Or Sith?

    You mean which will we play? Dunno about you, but I'm gonna be a Kreian disciple, so it probably won't matter all that much which side I pick.

    Or whichever gives me a T3-M4/R2-D2 as a companion character soonest. So probably Jedi.

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  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm gonna play a dark jedisithlord with a black trenchcoat, a white saber, black combat boots, gray hair, and a soul darker than a starless midnight. Tragically, he will have two robotic arms after failed attempts to /wrist.

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think I'm missing a couple of particularly awesome videos posted in the depths of the last thread. Does anyone have any links for the OP?

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mifio wrote: »
    To christen this new thread.
    Let me ask a simple question.

    Jedi Or Sith?

    Smuggler.

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  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Trooper.

    This game can't come out soon enough. Current speculation on the Bioware boards is Q1/Q2 '10.

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  • NerfThatManNerfThatMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Bounty Hunter.

    So in that IGN E3 interview video, I believe a companion is shown along with a Sith player. Any idea what that species that is, O Great Geeks? I'm clueless.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mifio wrote: »
    To christen this new thread.
    Let me ask a simple question.

    Jedi Or Sith?

    Whichever one has dialogue options that let me say fuck off to the wrong headed Jedi Code and the psychopathic Sith Code both.

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Galielmus wrote: »

    Yeah I had a look at that, nothing really jumped out at me. I'm running out of bandwidth so I'm having trouble verifying what's interesting :P

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  • HuggyBearHuggyBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Get off my Lawn!!



    Also "completely removing the holy trinity" other games have promised this and failed, it'll be interesting if they pull this off and still leave a reasonable amount of group synergy.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    my jedi name is maas whi?
    that's freakin WEAK
    totally gonna sith it up

    this will be my first mmo
    day one

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    day one
    Hells yeah.

    I mean, something could potentially happen between now and release which would kill my excitement. But things would have to be pretty fucking horrendous to turn me off at this point.

    I'm such a sucker for hype.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    hey, bioware's never done me wrong
    why they gonna start now?

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm still interested how they integrate their big focus on story (with fully voiced NPCs etc) into the game while still emphasising the multiplayer aspect. Not sure how that's going to work to be honest.

    Also the fast paced combat thing interests me but makes me hesitant, it makes me worry about how bad lag will affect the game.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    -SPI- wrote: »
    I'm still interested how they integrate their big focus on story (with fully voiced NPCs etc) into the game while still emphasising the multiplayer aspect. Not sure how that's going to work to be honest.

    Also the fast paced combat thing interests me but makes me hesitant, it makes me worry about how bad lag will affect the game.
    Thankfully if there is anyone who can pull of a story driven mmo this will be the company.

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Bounty Hunter.

    So in that IGN E3 interview video, I believe a companion is shown along with a Sith player. Any idea what that species that is, O Great Geeks? I'm clueless.

    It was a Dashade.

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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    the cockroaches of the star wars universe...

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Force resistant, yes. Lightsaber resistant -- not so much.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    I am going to have a serious case of alt-itis.

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  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stupid names are especially inexcusable considering how easy it is to make your Star Wars name.

    First 2 letters of first two names is Star Wars first name
    First 3 letters of last name is Start Wars last name.

    Examples:

    Barak Hussein Obama = Bahu Oba
    George Herbert Bush = Gehe Bus
    James Tiberius Kirk = Jati Kir
    John Quincy Adams = Joqu Ada

    I have yet to see it not work...

    Hmm, I think I have one that doesn't work. My first two names are Adam Stephen. Adst is definitely not an acceptable first name. (I can't think of a common English name that consists of one vowel followed by three consonants, not counting "y," obviously.)

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    galactic basic motherfucker. DO YOU SPEAK IT?

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm want to play Republic, then totally go dark side (I'm hoping non-Jedi can do this).

    Or maybe I'll start out Sith, then conver to the Republic. Just to be different.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.

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  • SpamSpam Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    exis wrote: »
    widowson's fail-proof Star Wars name generator
    widowson wrote:
    Stupid names are especially inexcusable considering how easy it is to make your Star Wars name.

    First 2 letters of first two names is Star Wars first name
    First 3 letters of last name is Start Wars last name.

    Examples:

    Barak Hussein Obama = Bahu Oba
    George Herbert Bush = Gehe Bus
    James Tiberius Kirk = Jati Kir
    John Quincy Adams = Joqu Ada

    I have yet to see it not work...

    Failed.

    Grpe Ren

    o_O

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  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Melkster wrote: »
    (I can't think of a common English name that consists of one vowel followed by three consonants, not counting "y," obviously.)
    It's not quite that, but "Mitch" has a single vowel followed by three consonants.

    I wonder what the next update is going to be. Probably another timeline thing, like what they released back in May about the Mandalorian Blockade. If they're building the timeline in reverse, it'll be "The Return of the Mandalorians".

    Grid System on
  • ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Spam wrote: »
    exis wrote: »
    widowson's fail-proof Star Wars name generator
    widowson wrote:
    Stupid names are especially inexcusable considering how easy it is to make your Star Wars name.

    First 2 letters of first two names is Star Wars first name
    First 3 letters of last name is Start Wars last name.

    Examples:

    Barak Hussein Obama = Bahu Oba
    George Herbert Bush = Gehe Bus
    James Tiberius Kirk = Jati Kir
    John Quincy Adams = Joqu Ada

    I have yet to see it not work...

    Failed.

    Grpe Ren

    o_O

    Chan Wil? ._.

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  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh god. Not this shit again.

    Grid System on
  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    devoir wrote: »
    Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.

    Really? I could've sworn I read that, on top of allying yourself with a faction (Republic/Sith), you actually accumulate light and dark side points a la KOTOR, which will change the game for you going forward.

    Or maybe I just made all that up in my dream MMO...

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    My Star Wars name turns out to be Rest Bat.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Elst But? I don't think that works for me.

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  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    jdarksun wrote: »
    devoir wrote: »
    Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.
    Really? I could've sworn I read that, on top of allying yourself with a faction (Republic/Sith), you actually accumulate light and dark side points a la KOTOR, which will change the game for you going forward.

    Or maybe I just made all that up in my dream MMO...
    You mixed up political affiliation with SW morality.

    Characters are created as part of the Republic or Sith Empire. They stay aligned with that group.

    You can, however, choose to follow the Light Side or the Dark Side.

    Leading to Dark Jedi and Light Sith. But never Republic Sith or Sith Jedi.

    I thought the same thing... But I can't find anything explicitly saying that a character MUST stay with a certain faction. It doesn't make sense, after all, to have a known evil Jedi allowed in the ranks of the Republic, or a kind Sith Lord allowed in the ranks of the Sith Empire.

    Do you have a source for that?

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Melkster wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    devoir wrote: »
    Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.
    Really? I could've sworn I read that, on top of allying yourself with a faction (Republic/Sith), you actually accumulate light and dark side points a la KOTOR, which will change the game for you going forward.

    Or maybe I just made all that up in my dream MMO...
    You mixed up political affiliation with SW morality.

    Characters are created as part of the Republic or Sith Empire. They stay aligned with that group.

    You can, however, choose to follow the Light Side or the Dark Side.

    Leading to Dark Jedi and Light Sith. But never Republic Sith or Sith Jedi.

    I thought the same thing... But I can't find anything explicitly saying that a character MUST stay with a certain faction. It doesn't make sense, after all, to have a known evil Jedi allowed in the ranks of the Republic, or a kind Sith Lord allowed in the ranks of the Sith Empire.

    Do you have a source for that?

    Ok, I understand now.

    If that's the case, it seems a little strange that you couldn't switch political factions. What kind of tolerance would the Jedi have for a dark sider? Why would a light side sith hang out with a bunch of brutal murderers and warmongers? It's a little strange. Basically, what Melkster said.

    Still, curiousity wins out on this one. I'll play a light side sith just to see what it looks like.

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  • MifioMifio MrrlendRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Maal Ian...

    Yea. That could work as a Star War-sy name.

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  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Melkster wrote: »
    Do you have a source for that?
    You know how they've been repeatedly saying that if you play the game as a Sith, then go play the game as a Jedi, you won't have a one bit of shared content?

    That's it.

    Hmm... But what about when the leveling is over? I mean, of course a Jedi who falls into the Dark Side would have a much different story than a Sith who redeems himself. Obviously they wouldn't share the same content in terms of the prepackaged Bioware Story that has been talked so often by the official updates.

    However, once those story lines have completed and players reach the "end game" - surely it makes no sense to allow a fallen Jedi to stay an official member of the Republic, or vice versa for a Sith.

    Then again, I haven't read much about any end-game content at all.

    ::shrug::

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Melkster wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    devoir wrote: »
    Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.
    Really? I could've sworn I read that, on top of allying yourself with a faction (Republic/Sith), you actually accumulate light and dark side points a la KOTOR, which will change the game for you going forward.

    Or maybe I just made all that up in my dream MMO...
    You mixed up political affiliation with SW morality.

    Characters are created as part of the Republic or Sith Empire. They stay aligned with that group.

    You can, however, choose to follow the Light Side or the Dark Side.

    Leading to Dark Jedi and Light Sith. But never Republic Sith or Sith Jedi.

    I thought the same thing... But I can't find anything explicitly saying that a character MUST stay with a certain faction. It doesn't make sense, after all, to have a known evil Jedi allowed in the ranks of the Republic, or a kind Sith Lord allowed in the ranks of the Sith Empire.

    Do you have a source for that?

    Ok, I understand now.

    If that's the case, it seems a little strange that you couldn't switch political factions. What kind of tolerance would the Jedi have for a dark sider? Why would a light side sith hang out with a bunch of brutal murderers and warmongers? It's a little strange. Basically, what Melkster said.

    Still, curiousity wins out on this one. I'll play a light side sith just to see what it looks like.

    I have a feeling it will be separated based on your political affiliation. so basically your choices would fall somewhere into this spectrum:
    |-light-|-neut-|-dark-|<Jedi - Sith>|-light-|-neut-|-dark-|

    so where your dark jedi options are near, but still more 'good' than light sith. this is mindless speculation but i can see it easily being like that

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  • CuntyCunty Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So since they announced there will absolutely be some sort of economy and auction house, it made me realize that this is one of the most important aspects of my MMO experience. A lot of the time I go on an MMO it is to check an auction house, hunt prices, abuse the system, that sort of thing.

    Now it's got me thinking, what will be more fiscally viable, smuggler or bounty hunter?
    it's an interesting question

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Droids! Everybody loves them, from the cute & cuddly astromechs to the decidedly less cuddly assassin droids and god knows what else. Wild speculation time:

    What do folks think of the odds that one or more types of droid will be a playable class? Right now I think that an HK unit is about the only thing that could unseat Bounty Hunter for me. Each faction would need a droid unit though for balance. I could almost see Sith getting the HKs, and Republic getting Astromechs, but... I'm skeptical.

    My other thought is that we could see some type of droid engineer class, kind of like the pet classes in other MMOs (WoW hunters if I can be forgiven the comparison). Such a class would get better companions than other classes, in the form of upgradeable/advanced droids. Am I dumb for thinking this?


    Does anyone else have theories or solid info on how droids will be handled?

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  • CuntyCunty Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    Melkster wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    devoir wrote: »
    Pretty sure you won't be able to do that.
    Really? I could've sworn I read that, on top of allying yourself with a faction (Republic/Sith), you actually accumulate light and dark side points a la KOTOR, which will change the game for you going forward.

    Or maybe I just made all that up in my dream MMO...
    You mixed up political affiliation with SW morality.

    Characters are created as part of the Republic or Sith Empire. They stay aligned with that group.

    You can, however, choose to follow the Light Side or the Dark Side.

    Leading to Dark Jedi and Light Sith. But never Republic Sith or Sith Jedi.

    I thought the same thing... But I can't find anything explicitly saying that a character MUST stay with a certain faction. It doesn't make sense, after all, to have a known evil Jedi allowed in the ranks of the Republic, or a kind Sith Lord allowed in the ranks of the Sith Empire.

    Do you have a source for that?

    Ok, I understand now.

    If that's the case, it seems a little strange that you couldn't switch political factions. What kind of tolerance would the Jedi have for a dark sider? Why would a light side sith hang out with a bunch of brutal murderers and warmongers? It's a little strange. Basically, what Melkster said.

    Still, curiousity wins out on this one. I'll play a light side sith just to see what it looks like.

    I have a feeling it will be separated based on your political affiliation. so basically your choices would fall somewhere into this spectrum:
    |-light-|-neut-|-dark-|<Jedi - Sith>|-light-|-neut-|-dark-|

    so where your dark jedi options are near, but still more 'good' than light sith. this is mindless speculation but i can see it easily being like that

    I don't think there will be any light side sith or dark side jedi. I think there will be, let's say, shades of red in the sith, but they will never be "good"

    from official FAQs, words in brackets are mine
    Will I be able to play on the Light or Dark side of the Force?

    Yes, during character selection you will align with the Republic or the Sith Empire [this implies that republic or sith is tied to light or dark sight]. In addition, throughout the game you will also be faced with many decisions which can change your path down the Light or Dark side of the Force[meaning, you will change path within the light or dark side, but not go from light to dark side]

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