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Kitten Thread part 1^n (Kitten goes into a berserker rage)

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  • KidDynamiteKidDynamite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Honestly, they work pretty well.

    You have to re-apply them every month or so. I don't use them anymore on my (now grown) cat, but it really seemed to help curb some of the clawing behavior when he was a little-un.

    They really are like latex, so think of the handles of pliers, and thats is about what you see.

    Not very expensive and totally worth it IMHO.

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Declawing a cat should only be a last resort alternative to prevent an animal from being destroyed.

    Regarding SoftPaws, I've had some experience with them on my cousin's cat. While I wasn't privy to them being applied, the cat seemed perfectly content to have them on, and they did do a very good job in preventing any sort of scratching. We were initially going to pursue that route with our cat, but found that so long as we kept his claws clipped appropriately there were no issues with him inadvertently shredding things. He also took very quickly to the right things to scratch (various pads and posts throughout the house) and what not to scratch (our carpet). So in the end it's just easier (and cheaper) to clip his nails.

    You may want to see how inclined the kitten is to claw things/how sharp their clipped claws are before investing in the SoftPaws.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    to be honest. its super easy to trim a cats claws. we use a regular human nail clipper. if you start them young with holding and playing with their feet they will sit still. just introduce them to a scratching post. we have never had any clawing issues with our guys and we don't use softpaws, just trimmings.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I take my cat to the Petco over in Watertown and it takes them 2 minutes and $10 to cut my cat's claws. It's so worth it.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Approved for adoption! Picking our kitty up tomorrow night. I still need a good name for a girl kitty, since I'm not super fond of Leela and the gf hates Leelu. Thoughts?

    Our kitty to be, assuming the link doesn't break soon
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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Too cute!

    I ended up with a kitten last year. A cute snuggle ball we named Baron (after the fellow in The Cat Returns). We kept him in one bedroom for about two weeks, then only upstairs for a week, then let him explore the whole house. He never freaked out this way, and always seems to enjoy looking into things without bolting.

    Also, it turns out little Baron is actually a Maine Coon. The thing is bigger than some of the dogs in the neighborhood now.

    I've agonized over getting a second cat to keep him company, but in the end it just wasn't in the cards. We play (a lot) with two primary toys: A plastic ball with a bell inside (looks like a cage) tied to a long length of yarn and a lazer pointer. Hunting toys rock.

    Another toy that seems to keep him occupied when I'm not at home is a strange plastic dish device. It looks like a circular baseball base or something similar, with a ball trapped in a hollow-topped rut that allows him to spin the ball around the outside of the plastic thingy. The center has a series of cardboard for scratching/hiding catnip in, and the center has a tall pole with a fishing rod like device. He plays all over it when we are busy, though he tears off the hanging stuffed animals fairly often.

    Another thing we do is take him for walks. This was kinda a "Hey, wtf are you doing, sir?" moment for our neighbors, but he loves it. I got a small leash, pretty much an 8 foot line of elastic rope with two key clips, and a very loose cat harness that clasps about his shoulders and chest. We open the door and let him explore wherever he wants to go for about ten minutes. He gets to go outside, but he won't bolt when the front door is opened. As he is, and will always be, an "indoor cat" (we have lots of wild dogs in the area, the outdoor cats have a short (months) lifespan at best), the walks give him the tiger feeling. It also gives him a lot of exercise.

    One of the things to not do, however, is try to lead him. I just let him go wherever, and the leash is so I can find him/get to him quickly if a dog or raccoon shows up.

    I recommend going to a big lots and getting a cat tower. They carry (on occasion) the same ones you find at pet stored for a tenth of the price. If you have a large enough budget, get a nice one off the internet and shipped to your house. Most cats play/sleep/hang out all the time on these things.

    Enjoy!

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    we got our cat towers at costco for insane steals

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well the shelter had been calling my kitten Munchie and there was no way that staying. I named her Dinah after Black Canary. My rabbit didn't get his name until I held him for a bit to get a sense for what his name should be. His name's Pineapple so I might not be the best to offer naming advice other than feel free to wait until you get to know her a bit.

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  • RainbulimicRainbulimic Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh another thing, since kittens are so used to sleeping with their mum and brothers and sisters, if you're only getting one, when you've set up her bed, get a hot water bottle or something warm and wrap it in a blanket and put it in her basket or bed for her to curl up with. Kittens, when they're tiny, don't regulate body heat well, and she'll be very home-sick for her family. It'll help her get to sleep without being lonely and sad so she won't cry as much. Worked like a charm for my kitten.

    And i stand by getting it chipped, regardless of not letting it outside. Currently, I can't open my front door without my kitten bolting for the road to explore. I have to unlock the door and bend down to prepare to grab her as I come inside now.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh another thing, since kittens are so used to sleeping with their mum and brothers and sisters, if you're only getting one, when you've set up her bed, get a hot water bottle or something warm and wrap it in a blanket and put it in her basket or bed for her to curl up with. Kittens, when they're tiny, don't regulate body heat well, and she'll be very home-sick for her family. It'll help her get to sleep without being lonely and sad so she won't cry as much. Worked like a charm for my kitten.

    This kitten is 4 months old and looked to be sleeping alone when we saw her.


    Oh right, other question - I've seen people advise keeping a kitten in one room for x period of time to prevent it from getting overwhelmed. Would this be a big deal in a one bedroom apartment? It's just bedroom, living room, kitchen - would I be ok leaving the doors open?

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh another thing, since kittens are so used to sleeping with their mum and brothers and sisters, if you're only getting one, when you've set up her bed, get a hot water bottle or something warm and wrap it in a blanket and put it in her basket or bed for her to curl up with. Kittens, when they're tiny, don't regulate body heat well, and she'll be very home-sick for her family. It'll help her get to sleep without being lonely and sad so she won't cry as much. Worked like a charm for my kitten.

    This kitten is 4 months old and looked to be sleeping alone when we saw her.


    Oh right, other question - I've seen people advise keeping a kitten in one room for x period of time to prevent it from getting overwhelmed. Would this be a big deal in a one bedroom apartment? It's just bedroom, living room, kitchen - would I be ok leaving the doors open?
    You'll have to judge based on the animal's temperament. When we first got our shelter cat, he was older (1.5 years), but after a brief 20 minute interlude in the bathroom where we made sure he knew where the litterbox was, we let him out into the entire house, and he was fine. Inquisitive, not scared.

    Really you're just trying to prevent the cat having a breakdown and cowering under a couch for 5 hours. Start out in one room, and see how they do. If it's all interesting and happy times, introduce another and so on. If the cat looks skittish or scared, reign it back in. With as small as your apartment is, it probably won't be a huge deal. But start in the room with the litterbox.

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  • GogoKodoGogoKodo Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I have a question. We got our cat when she was already old and she will not let us cut her nails without freaking out. So far it seems like she's content to use her cardboard scratcher a whole bunch and I think that helps with her nails. Is it a must to clip her nails, or is it OK to just make sure she always has something to scratch to whittle them down?

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oh another thing, since kittens are so used to sleeping with their mum and brothers and sisters, if you're only getting one, when you've set up her bed, get a hot water bottle or something warm and wrap it in a blanket and put it in her basket or bed for her to curl up with. Kittens, when they're tiny, don't regulate body heat well, and she'll be very home-sick for her family. It'll help her get to sleep without being lonely and sad so she won't cry as much. Worked like a charm for my kitten.

    This kitten is 4 months old and looked to be sleeping alone when we saw her.


    Oh right, other question - I've seen people advise keeping a kitten in one room for x period of time to prevent it from getting overwhelmed. Would this be a big deal in a one bedroom apartment? It's just bedroom, living room, kitchen - would I be ok leaving the doors open?

    Depends, I let mine out right away and she took an hour to adjust before roaming like she owned the place. Dinah had little problems adjusting from the shelter to the apartment. She was most likely alone given that the Boston Animal Shelter tends to get more individual strays than litters. On your paperwork it will tell you how long she's been there. If it's like mine she was there and alone in her cage for most of her stay.

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    GogoKodo wrote: »
    I have a question. We got our cat when she was already old and she will not let us cut her nails without freaking out. So far it seems like she's content to use her cardboard scratcher a whole bunch and I think that helps with her nails. Is it a must to clip her nails, or is it OK to just make sure she always has something to scratch to whittle them down?
    Even outdoor cats have extremely sharp claws, and they have a much wider array of surfaces/activities to wear their nails with. It's pretty much a necessity with indoor cats, as they don't have the same access, resulting in very long claws. These not only will inadvertently damage you/things, they'll also result in an increased chance of injury for the cat. If they get a claw stuck in a precarious pose, it's entirely possible for them to sprain a leg or tear a claw, for example if their bodyweight pulled on a stuck claw.

    Personally I'd reccomend snipping your cat's claws. Even mine is extremely skittish about it, but I find the best result comes from approaching him when he's sleeping, and quickly doing one or two before he can fully wake up and figure out what's going on. If she's too much of handful, spending the 10 bucks or so every month or two may be worth it. You can work towards more comfort with your cat, attempting to teach them to be comfortable when handling their feet and so on, but it's never a sure thing.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    And i stand by getting it chipped, regardless of not letting it outside. Currently, I can't open my front door without my kitten bolting for the road to explore. I have to unlock the door and bend down to prepare to grab her as I come inside now.

    I'll agree on the chipping. Doesn't need to be right away though, since you're getting a young kitten. We got our cat chipped at about six months, when we took him to get neutered.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    How exactly do these pet places clip the claws? I made the mistake of not handling my cat's paws a lot when he was younger, so now I can only clip his claws when he is literally out cold. If he's even slightly awake, he'll fight back, and being a Maine Coon, he usually wins. I'd definitely be up for taking him someplace to get him clipped, but I'd feel bad that I'm just passing off the struggle to some minimum-wage counter-jockey.

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How exactly do these pet places clip the claws? I made the mistake of not handling my cat's paws a lot when he was younger, so now I can only clip his claws when he is literally out cold. If he's even slightly awake, he'll fight back, and being a Maine Coon, he usually wins. I'd definitely be up for taking him someplace to get him clipped, but I'd feel bad that I'm just passing off the struggle to some minimum-wage counter-jockey.
    Depends on where you take them, really. The vet, for example, charges a competitive rate for claw clipping here, and deals with reluctant felines on a daily basis. You trust this person to stick a thermometer in your pet's rear, surely you trust them to do a little snip snip on their nails.

    It usually amounts to some combination of "hold him still" and "I've done this like 100000 times.".

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    as far as letting him to roam, i would just make sure he has a place to hide. our guys immediately explored everything. the littermate of our first hid under a bookcase when we first met

    i would do the chips when the cat is young is its a big needle and the nerves aren't as developed and it will hurt way less than if the animal is bigger/older

    chips are for when indoor cats become outdoor cats accidentally

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  • oncelingonceling Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How exactly do these pet places clip the claws? I made the mistake of not handling my cat's paws a lot when he was younger, so now I can only clip his claws when he is literally out cold. If he's even slightly awake, he'll fight back, and being a Maine Coon, he usually wins. I'd definitely be up for taking him someplace to get him clipped, but I'd feel bad that I'm just passing off the struggle to some minimum-wage counter-jockey.

    For doing clipping at home with a reluctant feline, your best bet is to sit on the couch normally and have the cat on your left hand side up against your left thigh (on the couch, facing forward). Put your left arm around the cat, and have the clippers in your right (swap if you're left handed I guess).

    Your left hand is going to loop around the cat so your forearm can apply pressure if the cat struggles and pin it against your thigh firmly but gently. With your left hand, take a paw from the underside, and apply pressure to each knuckle to pop out the claw, trim with the right hand and move on. If the cat struggles, very calmly apply gentle pressure with your left forearm to trap them against you and in the upright, facing forward position. Stay calm, do not allow yourself to get worked up at all. Release the pressure if the cat stops wiggling and resume. Only let the cat go when it is still and not struggling. Try for one claw at a time at first, and leave the high "thumb" nails for last (even do them separately) because they are more difficult.

    In this position the cat's back claws can't reach you (only the couch), you have hold of one paw and can't be scratched with it, and if the cat moves their other paw they have nothing to hold themselves up. It's quite safe. If your cat gives warning bites, move your left hand under them where it's safe and retain the pressure with your forearm so you are not in biting range. It is best not to release if the cat gets worked up (will make it worse next time) just retain the gentle firm pressure and make sure you don't get worked up in return. Take the time to breathe deeply and remain calm.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How exactly do these pet places clip the claws? I made the mistake of not handling my cat's paws a lot when he was younger, so now I can only clip his claws when he is literally out cold. If he's even slightly awake, he'll fight back, and being a Maine Coon, he usually wins. I'd definitely be up for taking him someplace to get him clipped, but I'd feel bad that I'm just passing off the struggle to some minimum-wage counter-jockey.

    My cat's a Maine Coon and Petco handles her just fine.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How exactly do these pet places clip the claws? I made the mistake of not handling my cat's paws a lot when he was younger, so now I can only clip his claws when he is literally out cold. If he's even slightly awake, he'll fight back, and being a Maine Coon, he usually wins. I'd definitely be up for taking him someplace to get him clipped, but I'd feel bad that I'm just passing off the struggle to some minimum-wage counter-jockey.

    My cat's a Maine Coon and Petco handles her just fine.

    Same here. My kitty may be huge, but those guys know what they're doing. Its definitely worth keeping my eyebrows.

    Don't feel bad about passing it off to the staff. If everyone passed on taking their cats in, they wouldn't have a job!

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I still need a good name for a girl kitty, since I'm not super fond of Leela and the gf hates Leelu. Thoughts?

    Leila?

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    We ended up settling on Tyche. I'm picking her up this evening :D

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  • CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Our older kitten (1.5 years old) isn't the biggest fan of getting clipped, so we usually wrap a blanket around him, and then ease one of the paws out of the blanket. If he's being held, with just one paw out, he doesn't resist as much. Or when he does, I just give him that stern look like "come on, we both know you're not going anywhere" and he usually quiets down.

    That and we always give him some treats afterward so he may one day think clipping is a fun and tasty activity.

    Edit: Obligatory pictures of my kitties! Including a couple new ones of our new kitten Loki, who we've had for 2 weeks now:

    At first Toby would just hiss at Loki a lot and avoid him, so we made them chat on AIM with one another:
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    But eventually Loki's boundless kitten energy wore Toby down and he gave in to being Loki's big brother:
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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    We ended up settling on Tyche. I'm picking her up this evening :D

    If you haven't picked a vet yet I'll replug Merwin. They charge cost only and just ask you make a donation of whatever you can afford.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Haven't gotten a vet yet.

    Picked up the kitty last night. I spoke with the woman from the shelter on Tuesday morning, she told me that they were open till 7 on Wednesday and that I could pick her up then. I roll up at like 5 and the place is all locked up. Fortunately somebody who worked there (a dog catcher, or something like that) who wasn't necessarily working there at the moment pulled up and was willing to help me out. I would have been sad to not be able to get our kitty until next week.

    As for the kitten herself, she's adjusting extremely well. Alarmingly well, actually. Within 10 minutes of being in the apartment she was sprinting around the place and using me as a jungle gym. Which was good and bad - she seems to be a hunter, pouncing on things like moving feet. And hands. While we're sleeping. All. Night. Long. It was really cute that she spent the entire night in our bed, but hopefully she grows out of crawling over my face every 10 minutes.

    Pics!
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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The growing out of the sleeping thing? Yeah, dosen't happen. All the cats I've had made games out of waking me up in some fashion. My current kitty will sit on my bedside table and tap my nose with his paw until I wake up. When I do, he is staring into my eyes at point blank range. If I try to shoo him away, he hides somewhere I can't reach, then repeats.

    But I got the best of him (or so I thought). One time I pretended to be asleep, and when he went to swat me I pulled the string I had hidden beneath the covers, causing the pillowcase I had tacked to the ceiling above the bedside table to fall and cover him. He looked most perturbed as I laughed.

    Now he just crawls under my blankets/comes at me from the other side. :(

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009

    Pics!
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    So cute! Little red/tan coloring mixed in with the gray.

    I hope you're not of those girls in the red picture frame,
    cause you might need a shave.... D:

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Erm, those are my girlfriend's pics.

    But hey, I could still shave if it would make me more...aerodynamic...:winky:

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So my kitty spent most of the time I was home the first two days running around like it was on crack. Today she slept the entire day and seemed to have zero energy. She also tried meowing, which she hadn't really done before, but it was this really weak, kind of pathetic meow like she couldn't really do it. Should I be concerned?

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Has she been eating?

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, I watched her eat a few times since I first grew concerned. She's moving around fine, eating, still wants to cuddle but not quite as much. She just seems much lower energy than I'd grown accustomed to. You know, in two days. I'm probably overreacting, I was just a little worried.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    She was probably just excited. Cats generally spend the vast majority of their time sleeping.

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  • robotbeboprobotbebop Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    One thing i'd like to point out - because I made the same mistake - is this: do NOT under any circumstances reward the kitten when she attacks your hands and feet by playing with her. She'll think you're just playing with her and it will cement the whole hands = toys idea in her mind. I know it's cute when they're tiny, but those things get bigger and bitier.

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  • TayaTaya Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    There is a really great cat website that I found. It has a lot of well-written articles about many cat-related subjects.

    MessyBeast

    I got a cat from a shelter three weeks ago. She had a strange behaviour that I had never seen before in my previous cat. Her tail would vibrate as her back legs did a march/dance. I thought it was because she was still a little nervous but apparently it means that she is overcome with joy at seeing me. :3

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So, my kitten has this thing about licking me. Any time she hasn't seen me a while, or intermittently throughout the evening, she'll start obsessively licking my neck. She'll lick my hands on occasion, but she seems to go apeshit for the area directly under my chin. She will try her hardest to get her head in there so she can lick for all it's worth. What's that about?

    Also, it's really cute, but it kinda hurts (her tongue is rough as shit). Is this behavior I should be discouraging, or will she get bored with it eventually?

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So, my kitten has this thing about licking me. Any time she hasn't seen me a while, or intermittently throughout the evening, she'll start obsessively licking my neck. She'll lick my hands on occasion, but she seems to go apeshit for the area directly under my chin. She will try her hardest to get her head in there so she can lick for all it's worth. What's that about?

    Also, it's really cute, but it kinda hurts (her tongue is rough as shit). Is this behavior I should be discouraging, or will she get bored with it eventually?

    She's cleaning you.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So if I shower again when I get home, she might stop? >.>

    How do cats define clean anyway?

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  • BardiBardi Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So if I shower again when I get home, she might stop? >.>

    How do cats define clean anyway?

    your cat probably defines clean as licked by her.

    by chance, do you have a beard? because my cat only licks me on top of my head when i am laying down, or on my shins, and both places have hair. maybe being clean-shaven will help.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So if I shower again when I get home, she might stop? >.>

    How do cats define clean anyway?

    She's giving you a bath the way she would a cat family member. She probably won't stop unless you discourage her from doing it but she could also outgrow it. Taking a shower won't help.

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