Once you reach the World of Ruin Terra quite easily fades into the background and becomes super forgettable.
....and is replaced with ANOTHER FEMALE. See the pattern here?
Celes, for an even briefer period of time until the game stops forcing you to bring any one character along. Thus, it felt like it ceased to have a main character.
Edit: I mean shit even in the World of Balance Terra felt more like a MacGuffin than a main character with her being off in Zozo for how long? And the party dividing up all the fucking time?
Guys. Terra shows up at the last battle even if you don't recruit her.
She's the main character. It's okay that the camera isn't on her 100% of the time, but she is absolutely the focal point of the story.
She's about as much a main character as Frodo is in Lord of the Rings.
He's starts the whole thing off and finishes it. He just does almost nothing in between other than make some poor decisions and nearly get killed a couple times.
Once you reach the World of Ruin Terra quite easily fades into the background and becomes super forgettable.
....and is replaced with ANOTHER FEMALE. See the pattern here?
I'll have the new thread ready later tonight. Again, if there's something you'd like to see added to the OP, let me know.
In addition to Adus' LP, what other FF LPs have been done by members recently?
XoB started VI, got jailed moments later, and never picked it up again.
Minion is halfway through IX, but had to put it down due to major computer problems but will hopefully pick it up again.
Thats about it.
I don't really know what his computer problems are, but I'm pretty sure he's just using a completely different computer now, so he probably doesn't have access to his FFIX save. In other words, the status of that LP is comatose at best. Part of me considered playing up to where he was and finishing it myself, but then I remembered that game bores the crap out of me and it wouldn't be funny. Much like my other LP, but at least I enjoy VII.
The best thing about 7 is that it starts fast, which is something FF games have struggled with.
However, with that quickness comes a tradeoff; sluggishness awaits those who leave the confines of one of the most creative metropolises ever seen in a jRPG.
Right, because obviously "game X had a female lead and was like this so since game Y has a female lead it will be exactly the same so I'm not going to get it because fuck female leads" is a perfectly valid, sane, well reasoned statement.
I thought those who frequent PA forums would be more willing to read into context than troll.
Here, I'll TRY to make it easier for you to understand. Based on Squeenix's approach to female protagonists/antagonists based on my experience with FFX-2, I am not as inclined to purchase FFXIII. Is that simple enough for you? Would you prefer I get the magnetic alphabet and spell it out for you on my refrigerator?
Context? What context? Your argument is as daft now as it was when you first posted it.
Square Enix are quite clearly not taking the same approach to FFXIII as they did with FFX-2, so how exactly can you directly compare them?
Oh and to throw out another Square Enix game with a female protagonist, Parasite Eve. It was so terrible, m i rite?
Right, because obviously "game X had a female lead and was like this so since game Y has a female lead it will be exactly the same so I'm not going to get it because fuck female leads" is a perfectly valid, sane, well reasoned statement.
I thought those who frequent PA forums would be more willing to read into context than troll.
Here, I'll TRY to make it easier for you to understand. Based on Squeenix's approach to female protagonists/antagonists based on my experience with FFX-2, I am not as inclined to purchase FFXIII. Is that simple enough for you? Would you prefer I get the magnetic alphabet and spell it out for you on my refrigerator?
Context? What context? Your argument is as daft now as it was when you first posted it.
Square Enix are quite clearly not taking the same approach to FFXIII as they did with FFX-2, so how exactly can you directly compare them?
Oh and to throw out another Square Enix game with a female protagonist, Parasite Eve. It was so terrible, m i rite?
There's really no actual argument for either Locke or Edgar being the main character that doesn't boil down to "because he has a penis"
I don't think you can argue for Edgar, but I think you could sell me on Locke. He's as basically as influential to the WoB plot as Terra is, and he's a lot more relevant to the WoR plot before it degenerates into sidequests.
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Would Square even let a non-Japanese company work on their biggest franchise? I mean, the new Front Mission game is one thing but their bread and butter?
Would Square even let a non-Japanese company work their biggest franchise? I mean, the new Front Mission game is one thing but their bread and butter?
To be fair, Squeenix is one of the few developers (like capcom) who have realized that many japanese developers are out of touch with what western gamers want, so I can see them *attempting* something like this.
Would Square even let a non-Japanese company work their biggest franchise? I mean, the new Front Mission game is one thing but their bread and butter?
To be fair, Squeenix is one of the few developers (like capcom) who have realized that many japanese developers are out of touch with what western gamers want, so I can see them *attempting* something like this.
One of the few developers? Most of them have been saying the same rubbish. Personally, I'd prefer that they focus on what they're good at, rather than mimicking the same crap we already see from western publishers.
There's really no actual argument for either Locke or Edgar being the main character that doesn't boil down to "because he has a penis"
I don't think you can argue for Edgar, but I think you could sell me on Locke. He's as basically as influential to the WoB plot as Terra is, and {b}he's a lot more relevant to the WoR plot before it degenerates into sidequests.
Buh? You can't even get Locke until it "degenerates into sidequests," and you aren't required to get him at all.
Would Square even let a non-Japanese company work their biggest franchise? I mean, the new Front Mission game is one thing but their bread and butter?
To be fair, Squeenix is one of the few developers (like capcom) who have realized that many japanese developers are out of touch with what western gamers want, so I can see them *attempting* something like this.
It is part of a new strategy for them, and they are definitely looking at doing it with multiple franchises and multiple devs.
There's really no actual argument for either Locke or Edgar being the main character that doesn't boil down to "because he has a penis"
I don't think you can argue for Edgar, but I think you could sell me on Locke. He's as basically as influential to the WoB plot as Terra is, and {b}he's a lot more relevant to the WoR plot before it degenerates into sidequests.
Buh? You can't even get Locke until it "degenerates into sidequests," and you aren't required to get him at all.
Locke's character is a driving force for Celes to actually start moving in the WoR, but I'm going to have to agree with Terra as MC for WoB and Celes in WoR.
I've always seen FFVI as being a bit more movie like in its character division. Rather than having a main character, I've always felt that it had two female leads (Terra and Celes) and a male lead (Locke) and then a bunch of cool secondary characters who get their moments to shine. Its sort of the reverse of Star Wars where you had two male leads (Luke and Han) and one female lead (Leia) while other characters like Chewie and Lando had their moments in the sun. Of course, since FFVI is so much larger in scope, there were more and longer moments then in the movies.
I'm not misogynistic, but I can't get excited about a female lead after FFX-2. Now that the antagonist is also a woman, it looks like I may have to pass on this.
Are you forgetting FFVI?
To be fair, it felt like after a while FFVI stopped having a main character.
It begins and ends with Terra, and she's on the cover. (And if that wasn't enough, see: Dissidia.)
I do believe the cover was just a red background with Mog sitting under the "Final Fantasy III" logo.
I'm not misogynistic, but I can't get excited about a female lead after FFX-2. Now that the antagonist is also a woman, it looks like I may have to pass on this.
Are you forgetting FFVI?
To be fair, it felt like after a while FFVI stopped having a main character.
It begins and ends with Terra, and she's on the cover. (And if that wasn't enough, see: Dissidia.)
I do believe the cover was just a red background with Mog sitting under the "Final Fantasy III" logo.
Would Square even let a non-Japanese company work their biggest franchise? I mean, the new Front Mission game is one thing but their bread and butter?
To be fair, Squeenix is one of the few developers (like capcom) who have realized that many japanese developers are out of touch with what western gamers want, so I can see them *attempting* something like this.
One of the few developers? Most of them have been saying the same rubbish. Personally, I'd prefer that they focus on what they're good at, rather than mimicking the same crap we already see from western publishers.
Honestly, only a handful have, though they happen to be the larger developers who don't need to worry in the first place becuase they have large fanbases here already.
I like developers on both sides for their own reasons, but I can understand the logic behind it.
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....and is replaced with ANOTHER FEMALE. See the pattern here?
I'll have the new thread ready later tonight. Again, if there's something you'd like to see added to the OP, let me know.
In addition to Adus' LP, what other FF LPs have been done by members recently?
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Celes, for an even briefer period of time until the game stops forcing you to bring any one character along. Thus, it felt like it ceased to have a main character.
Edit: I mean shit even in the World of Balance Terra felt more like a MacGuffin than a main character with her being off in Zozo for how long? And the party dividing up all the fucking time?
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XoB started VI, got jailed moments later, and never picked it up again.
Minion is halfway through IX, but had to put it down due to major computer problems but will hopefully pick it up again.
Thats about it.
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She's the main character. It's okay that the camera isn't on her 100% of the time, but she is absolutely the focal point of the story.
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She's about as much a main character as Frodo is in Lord of the Rings.
He's starts the whole thing off and finishes it. He just does almost nothing in between other than make some poor decisions and nearly get killed a couple times.
I don't really know what his computer problems are, but I'm pretty sure he's just using a completely different computer now, so he probably doesn't have access to his FFIX save. In other words, the status of that LP is comatose at best. Part of me considered playing up to where he was and finishing it myself, but then I remembered that game bores the crap out of me and it wouldn't be funny. Much like my other LP, but at least I enjoy VII.
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It is to me. It really... really is.
I still think I'll get around to FF VI one of these days...
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However, with that quickness comes a tradeoff; sluggishness awaits those who leave the confines of one of the most creative metropolises ever seen in a jRPG.
Context? What context? Your argument is as daft now as it was when you first posted it.
Square Enix are quite clearly not taking the same approach to FFXIII as they did with FFX-2, so how exactly can you directly compare them?
Oh and to throw out another Square Enix game with a female protagonist, Parasite Eve. It was so terrible, m i rite?
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Usually, people agree on one of these 4 as the focus.
Celes, Locke, Terra, Edgar.
Me personally? I think it's Celes.
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I'll show myself out now.
(And Edgar might get props if only because he marries Terra.)
Man Edgar is awesome on his own merits too
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Terra is the main character in WoB. Celes is in WoR. Pretty hard to argue.
I don't think you can argue for Edgar, but I think you could sell me on Locke. He's as basically as influential to the WoB plot as Terra is, and he's a lot more relevant to the WoR plot before it degenerates into sidequests.
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To be fair, Squeenix is one of the few developers (like capcom) who have realized that many japanese developers are out of touch with what western gamers want, so I can see them *attempting* something like this.
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I mean, it looks pretty, but just from that video the controls and combat look as goofy as FFXI.
One of the few developers? Most of them have been saying the same rubbish. Personally, I'd prefer that they focus on what they're good at, rather than mimicking the same crap we already see from western publishers.
Buh? You can't even get Locke until it "degenerates into sidequests," and you aren't required to get him at all.
It is part of a new strategy for them, and they are definitely looking at doing it with multiple franchises and multiple devs.
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Bwah? Edgar marries Terra? o_O
Locke's character is a driving force for Celes to actually start moving in the WoR, but I'm going to have to agree with Terra as MC for WoB and Celes in WoR.
Ignore him.
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I do believe the cover was just a red background with Mog sitting under the "Final Fantasy III" logo.
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Stupid US game art.
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Honestly, only a handful have, though they happen to be the larger developers who don't need to worry in the first place becuase they have large fanbases here already.
I like developers on both sides for their own reasons, but I can understand the logic behind it.
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