Star Trek XI????

Calvion

Apparently its in the works. The premis is supposed to be pre TOS Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. Kind of showcasing their careers before they come together on the NCC 1701.

Initial Rumors are the J.J. Abrams (Lost) will produce and possibly direct. The potentially great/disasterous news is that the leading guys to play Kirk and Spock and Mat Damon and Ben Afleck.... Don't know what to think there.

They could do a good job, but it could turn out pretty awful as well. What do you guys think of this stuff?

randombattle

Mat Damon and Ben Afleck? Sounds bs to me.

Andrew_Jay

Old.

But seriously, I heard of this, I imagine, a year or so ago. There were one or two stories about it and that was it. Looks like it was either fake, or simply didn't pan out. But if you have recent news on it, cool.

Calvion

Greg says its so. And what Greg says, goes...

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/preview/1809752800

NexusSix

The dude that plays Sylar on Heroes is trying to nab the Spock role.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06337/742543-237.stm

Beyond that, he's wary of getting too caught up in the "Heroes" hype, recognizing it could set up expectations that would only lead to disappointment. But he does have one dream role in mind: To play a young Spock in the new "Star Trek" movie. Quinto certainly has the complexion and bearing to pull it off.

I'm all for this shit if Abrams can make an entertaining and engaging Trek flick. We've had nothing but Trek shit the last several years.

randombattle

Yep this can only be bad news. Like Star Trek wasnt in bad enough shape from Enterprise and all that.

MikeMan

deadonthestreet

There is a Voyager marathon on right now, that my roommates are watching.

Voyager is so bad.

Dynagrip

This sounds like total BS to me. Also Damon is a badass and Affleck is at times palatable.

randombattle

Dynagrip wrote:

Also Damon is a badass and Affleck is at times palatable.

But as Kirk and Spock?

Dynagrip

Depends on who is who. Damon would be a good Kirk and a passable Spock. Besides it's not like any of the TOS actors were ever worth a shit.

Yar

I'd assume it's Damon-Kirk, Affleck-Spock. The other way around makes no sense. But Affleck couldn't pull it off anyway.

Is this the "Star Trek reboot" we were talking about earlier?

TroubledTom

Affleck is not in the movie.

NexusSix

Affleck shouldn't be in any movie.

Richy

So Rick Berman is not involved in any way. He is the mastermind behind Star Trek Enterprise and the Temporal Cold War had the brilliant idea of having the series' finaly take place on TNG's Enterprise's holodeck. He's not involved in the movie. That's good.

It's not the reboot. For starters, the reboot was proposed by J. Michael Straczynski, not JJ Abrams. And Abrams already said he'd stay true to canon, so it can't be a reboot.

The rumours about Damon-Kirk and Affleck-Spock are just that, rumours. Damon and Affleck say they have not been contacted, and Shatner and Nimoy said they have not been asked to sign the right to recast their old roles.

NexusSix

Didn't Paramount perma-ban Berman from the franchise?

randombattle

Richy wrote:

It's not the reboot. For starters, the reboot was proposed by J. Michael Straczynski, not JJ Abrams. And Abrams already said he'd stay true to canon, so it can't be a reboot.

The reboot was also going to be a tv show. Not a movie.

Richy

NexusSix wrote:

Didn't Paramount perma-ban Berman from the franchise?

God I hope so. Perma-ban actually sounds nice, given that he's responsible for Enterprise. Whipping him into a bloody mess then pouring salt on the wouds sounds like a more appropriate punishment.

LondonBridge

Heh, found William Shatner's opinion on this.

Athenor

Woah, what?!

The series finale of Enterprise... took place.. on the TNG Enterprise's holodeck?

Someone PM me the details, please?

Dead Guy Perez

Athenor wrote:

Woah, what?!

The series finale of Enterprise... took place.. on the TNG Enterprise's holodeck?

Someone PM me the details, please?

Full episode summary.

Athenor

My eyes hurt now.

Man, they'll get Riker and Troi to do anything, won't they?

Edit: And wow.. reading the continuity errors... =/

dirtynbl

Athenor wrote:

Woah, what?!

The series finale of Enterprise... took place.. on the TNG Enterprise's holodeck?

Someone PM me the details, please?

this kind of makes me want to fucking watch enterprise now for no reason other than to see how the hell this came about.

also, why the fuck can't we get a movie that involves say ds9 and voyager as well as TNG. I guess I could enjoy some Kirk stuff, but I'd like to see one last kickass movie with the current players. There's some fabulous books out there too that could easily become killer stories.

The whole idea of new actors in the Kirk spock roles just seems...ugg...

I guess I haven't really enjoyed much Trek since First Contact. I disliked Voyager for awhile, but I thought the finale proved badass.

D.T.

I can see Affleck doing this for a paycheck.

But for Damon, it would be career suicide. And frankly, he's too good for this.

Athenor

Part of me feels that Star Trek's story is not over... but it definitely needs some new management, or a reboot. I mean, hell, B5 was outdoing Star Trek 10 years ago, and BSG is just blowing it out of the water. But maybe that's my love for more character-driven drama speaking.

TBH, I just want to play a game where I can control the Prometheus or something.

Zimmydoom

If Damon and Affleck are Kirk and Spock, then Kevin Smith needs to direct and bring in Jason Lee to play McCoy.

THAT would be a movie worth watching. Probably for all the wrong reasons, but I know I'd still see it like six times in the theater.

nexuscrawler

Zimmydoom wrote:

If Damon and Affleck are Kirk and Spock, then Kevin Smith needs to direct and bring in Jason Lee to play McCoy.

THAT would be a movie worth watching. Probably for all the wrong reasons, but I know I'd still see it like six times in the theater.

only if smitg plays scottie.

or as an injoke they should replace him with welshie

Target Practice

I remember I stopped watching Enterprise when they had that "T'Pol catches the nympho virus" episode

Then everybody was talking about how good the Xindi stuff was

So I started watching that, and it was okay, nothing special

And then they go back in time and there are ALIEN NAZIS

And I said to hell with it

Irond Will

NexusSix wrote:

Affleck shouldn't be in any movie.

He's fine in a kind of douchebad fratboy role, like in Chasing Amy. I wouldn't let him do anything else though.

Dynagrip

Irond Will wrote:

NexusSix wrote:

Affleck shouldn't be in any movie.

He's fine in a kind of douchebad fratboy role, like in Chasing Amy. I wouldn't let him do anything else though.

Indeed. He was excellent as that sort of dude in Dazed and Confused.

AbsoluteZero

I've been watching TNG on G4 a lot lately and I have to say... Trek just has not been as good since.

They need to let it die for a while. Just leave Trek alone for like 5 years. Then do something new with all new people, from top to bottom all new people, but not a bunch of tards. People who are fans with respect for canon.

Irond Will

AbsoluteZero wrote:

I've been watching TNG on G4 a lot lately and I have to say... Trek just has not been as good since.

They need to let it die for a while. Just leave Trek alone for like 5 years. Then do something new with all new people, from top to bottom all new people, but not a bunch of tards. People who are fans with respect for canon.

Redded for lies. Fans with respect for canon are the central reason that most long-running franchises end up sucking.

jclast

Target Practice wrote:

I remember I stopped watching Enterprise when they had that "T'Pol catches the nympho virus" episode

Then everybody was talking about how good the Xindi stuff was

So I started watching that, and it was okay, nothing special

And then they go back in time and there are ALIEN NAZIS

And I said to hell with it

To be fair, ENT wasn't the first time Star Trek had dealt with alien Nazis.


Kirk in an SS uniform

TOS: Patterns of Force

LondonBridge

Zimmydoom wrote:

If Damon and Affleck are Kirk and Spock, then Kevin Smith needs to direct and bring in Jason Lee to play McCoy.

THAT would be a movie worth watching. Probably for all the wrong reasons, but I know I'd still see it like six times in the theater.

With Jason Mews & Kevin Smith as Chekov & Sulu???

D.T.

LondonBridge wrote:

Zimmydoom wrote:

If Damon and Affleck are Kirk and Spock, then Kevin Smith needs to direct and bring in Jason Lee to play McCoy.

THAT would be a movie worth watching. Probably for all the wrong reasons, but I know I'd still see it like six times in the theater.

With Jason Mews & Kevin Smith as Chekov & Sulu???

You guys need to stop. Kevin Smith might actually read this, think it's a good idea, talk Harvey Weinstein into it, and then abandon it three weeks after the announcement.

Richy

jclast wrote:

Target Practice wrote:

I remember I stopped watching Enterprise when they had that "T'Pol catches the nympho virus" episode

Then everybody was talking about how good the Xindi stuff was

So I started watching that, and it was okay, nothing special

And then they go back in time and there are ALIEN NAZIS

And I said to hell with it

To be fair, ENT wasn't the first time Star Trek had dealt with alien Nazis.


Kirk in an SS uniform

TOS: Patterns of Force

Except that one made sense. Planet falling apart, needs efficient government, so the guy sets up the most efficient government in Earth history, but it goes horribly wrong.

Plus, it was a good episode.

The ENT Nazi episode didn't make sense, and it sucked donkey balls.

Dead Guy Perez

AbsoluteZero wrote:

I've been watching TNG on G4 a lot lately and I have to say... Trek just has not been as good since.

Seen much Deep Space Nine? I love TNG as much or more than the next guy, but for my money DS9 blows it out of the water in terms of quality. The writing is leagues better, which certainly wasn't hurt by the fact that the producers actually let people write character arcs that depended on knowledge of previous episodes. Paramount's insistence that each TNG episode be a TOS-style self-contained whole really kept the series from doing some great things.

Der Waffle Mous

Richy wrote:

jclast wrote:

Target Practice wrote:

I remember I stopped watching Enterprise when they had that "T'Pol catches the nympho virus" episode

Then everybody was talking about how good the Xindi stuff was

So I started watching that, and it was okay, nothing special

And then they go back in time and there are ALIEN NAZIS

And I said to hell with it

To be fair, ENT wasn't the first time Star Trek had dealt with alien Nazis.


Kirk in an SS uniform

TOS: Patterns of Force

Except that one made sense. Planet falling apart, needs efficient government, so the guy sets up the most efficient government in Earth history, but it goes horribly wrong.

Plus, it was a good episode.

The ENT Nazi episode didn't make sense, and it sucked donkey balls.

Hell, even Voyager managed to mix Nazis with the freaking holodeck and it worked better than that.

Richy

WHY wrote:

Hell, even Voyager managed to mix Nazis with the freaking holodeck and it worked better than that.

Yeah, the only thing Enterprise was good for is making Voyager look good by comparison.

Dynagrip

I hated Kate Mulgrew as a captain so much. Holy fuck did I hate her.

Zimmydoom

Dead Guy Perez wrote:

AbsoluteZero wrote:

I've been watching TNG on G4 a lot lately and I have to say... Trek just has not been as good since.

Seen much Deep Space Nine? I love TNG as much or more than the next guy, but for my money DS9 blows it out of the water in terms of quality. The writing is leagues better, which certainly wasn't hurt by the fact that the producers actually let people write character arcs that depended on knowledge of previous episodes. Paramount's insistence that each TNG episode be a TOS-style self-contained whole really kept the series from doing some great things.

DS9 was great because the stewards of the franchise were finally allowed to get their hands dirty. The Federation was in a part of the galaxy where they were nobody wanted them, and they spent the entire series run consistently violating their own principles in order to maintain the status quo. Then the Dominion shows up, and all hell breaks lose. That series had terrorists, military dictatorships, religious fanatics, genocide, and the ugly side of Federation domestic politics.

That, and massive space battles with hundreds of ships on each side, with the good guys consistently getting their asses kicked. And the Defiant fucking rocked. Thrice the firepower of the Enterprise-D at 1/10th the size.