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I have a marketing question.

Robert KhooRobert Khoo Registered User, ClubPA staff
edited August 2009 in Social Entropy++
What do you think is better? A promo that says "spend X and get a comic print for $1?" or "spend X and get a comic print for Free?"

Obviously the free is a better deal, but i'm curious as far as what "sounds" better. Oh, and a print is normally $10.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    free

    without question

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  • alternatingAberrationalternatingAberration I am the milk man My milk is deliciousRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    free

    without question

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    who hates free things? not me that's who

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    but always offer the incentive first

    "Free comic with X purchase" is always better than "Spend X, get comic free"

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  • Robert KhooRobert Khoo Registered User, ClubPA staff
    edited August 2009
    interesting rank

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    see, I don't know why you guys haven't hired me yet

    its like you don't even know how to sell stuff there or something

    jeez khoo

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Free and clear

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    yeah i mean it's not like I wouldn't go for a dollar print, but offer me spending a dollar or not parting with it, and it's not really a choice.

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  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Spend 11 and get a free comic print sounds better to most people then spend 10 dollars and get an option for a 1 dollar comic print.

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  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    What Rank said.

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Free of course sounds better.

    What kind of question is this?

    Also, what rank said.

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  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The word free should always be first, and a little larger then the rest of the text.

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  • Robert KhooRobert Khoo Registered User, ClubPA staff
    edited August 2009
    ARE YOU CALLING ME DUMB MELDING

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    it isn't even a matter of "If you charge a little for something, they'll value it more".

    They're already spending something.

    So you phrase it like, "Get X free with Y purchase" because they'll think "Hey, I was gunna spend that anyway, sweet, free stuff".

    Instead of "Spend X, get Y free", to which they react with "But I don't wanna spend X!".

    People are simple creatures.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    rank is right yet again

    i'm surprised this is even a question

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Free should probably be the first word one sees.

    Make it bigger and in red.

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    khoo was vaguely hoping that the answer was 1 dollar

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    free $10 every time you spend $10

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Dumb is too harsh Khoo. Ham Doctor-ish sounds more accurate.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Spend X and get this Free to me implies some hidden catch.

    Spend X and get this for $1 sounds like a more genuine deal.

    Spend X and get this for $1.49 sounds even better because I'm a sucker for spurious rigor.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    well it depends I suppose on how much the initial print is

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    If it were just a matter of giving things away, then yeah, people wouldn't really look at it with any value.

    Like, if you're at a con and giving away mini-comic prints as some unknown indie comic, then nobody is really going to give a shit. They'll toss it in the swag bag and be on their way, and forget about it down the line.

    But if you charge them, like, a nickel, you're making them make a decision as to whether to part with something of theirs in trade, and since it is so cheap, they'll not only value it, they'll look at it as a bargain.

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  • Robert KhooRobert Khoo Registered User, ClubPA staff
    edited August 2009
    wait, you see, Scarab has a counterpoint.

    now someone gimme a dollar.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Download speeds of up to 10 MBPS and a free shirt!

    Shirt not necessarily free.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Terrendos wrote: »
    Free should probably be the first word one sees.

    Make it bigger and in red.

    no, don't do this

    making FREE the biggest word in the ad and having the clause ("...with initial purchase of equal or greater value!") in smaller print always puts a bad taste in my mouth

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  • FizFiz Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I think a combination of them would work as well.

    "Spend X and get a comic print for $1. Spend Y and get a comic print for free!"

    People who might have only been interested in spending X might suddenly decide to go for Y just to get the free thing. I've done that at Comic-Con.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    Fiz wrote: »
    I think a combination of them would work as well.

    "Spend X and get a comic print for $1. Spend Y and get a comic print for free!"

    People who might have only been interested in spending X might suddenly decide to go for Y just to get the free thing. I've done that at Comic-Con.
    This isn't a bad way to go, too.

    Upsell, dogg. Always be upsellin.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    As of right now there is exactly one person who is wrong in the poll.

    One lone wolf in his 1$ wolfpack.

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Context also matters, if it's with the online store "Free Y with $X purchase!" would be a better plan, but at a convention i would probably suggest the dollar option.

    With the online store it seems like customer appreciation where at the con it seems like you're just trying to clear your crap out on anyone willing to take it.

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  • TheGreat2ndTheGreat2nd Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    but always offer the incentive first

    "Free comic with X purchase" is always better than "Spend X, get comic free"

    I'm gonna just agree with Rank.
    Because it sounds right.

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    This poll is pretty Khool

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    As of right now there is exactly one person who is wrong in the poll.

    One lone wolf in his 1$ wolfpack.
    Dollar says it was Khoo

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    As of right now there is exactly one person who is wrong in the poll.

    One lone wolf in his 1$ wolfpack.
    Dollar says it was Khoo

    And now one more person has been added to that 1$ wolfpack.

    Who is Khoo's number two?

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I would have thought people would be conditioned to be wary of the word free. While it obviously has fiscal benefits to the consumer (being exactly 1 dollar cheaper than the 1 dollar option), with PA being on the internet, saying 'do this and get this free' would be advertising to an audience lambasted by 'do this and get this free' ads on every site they visit across the entire web.
    Heck, someone even suggested make free big and in red and that's the worst possible idea. I don't even see those things anymore. Any that aren't adblocked I don't even give a second glance.

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Khoo wants us to vote for the $1 because that gets funneled into his swiss bank account

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    As of right now there is exactly one person who is wrong in the poll.

    One lone wolf in his 1$ wolfpack.
    Dollar says it was Khoo

    And now one more person has been added to that 1$ wolfpack.

    Who is Khoo's number two?
    Othermike

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    It's not even a question of which will sell more shirts.

    How many 1$ shirts have to be sold to make up for each extra shirt pack sold in the free package?

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  • FizFiz Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    All I'm saying is that if I can't make it to PAX I should be in charge of all merchandising decisions.

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  • T. J. Nutty Nub T. J. Nutty Nub Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    This is pretty interesting

    At first I thought free was the best choice because well its free

    But then, I thought if people value it as free, they'll treat it as free, and as such may not be inclined to get it, because it is free. It will have no intrinsic value to it.

    But if you pay a dollar, people will have to part with money to get get it, and people will value it more than free, it will have an intrinsic value in it.

    And i tend to value things more if they have a price to it

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  • Robert KhooRobert Khoo Registered User, ClubPA staff
    edited August 2009
    Hmm, well actually our goal with this is to gain awareness for the comic prints... because i'm not sure if people quite understand how high of quality they are.

    Seriously, they are sweet.

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