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[Let's Play] Dragon Force: Part 2 - Pincer Strike
Hematophilia
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Dragon Force - The Legend of the Gallant man of the Forest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Qeu8B820w
(Introduction)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Qeu8B820w
Gongos' Introduction
Part 1 - King of the Jungle
Part 2 - Pincer Strike
(First post)
(Note - English isn't my native language, so don't be surprised if you see errors here and there. =/)
Gentlemen.
It has come to my attention that this board has already seen a journey through Legendra with cj iwakura, who finished the game as Junon. (http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=37245)
I have joined the PA forums with the intention of doing a new Dragon Force Let's Play: Although I will be giving myself a few challenges.
1: I will never change a character's class unit. That means if I get characters such as Teiris and she's using archers, I won't use a crest to get dragons and faceroll to victory.
2: I will never abandon a castle, nor back down from a battle. That means Retreat will never be an option, even if I get attacked in a 1:5 situation.
3: No chasing enemy officers down if they retreat from a castle I recently conquered or defended. That makes the game a bit more lengthy.
That being said, my screenshot quality will be better than cj's.
First things first. I offer you the possibility of chosing my destiny. Since some of you might have already seen iwakura's run through, I'll even add the 2 secret characters into the selection! Anything but Junon and Reinhart, for obvious reasons. (It would've been far too easy to roll through Legendra with harpies anyway.)
But if you need a description of the 8 kingdoms from my point of view, I can type it out, but I don't have as many image ressources as our previous host.
For now, at least. But his thread has all the information you'd ever need, monarch screenshots, continent's shape and whatnot.
ON WITH THE CONTENT! ... ... Yeah.
(Straight from Wiki: ) Dragon Force is a real-time strategy and tactics video game from Sega created for the Sega Saturn. It was created in Japan and translated for U.S. release by Working Designs in 1996. A sequel, never translated, was released for the Saturn in Japan in 1998. The first title was re-released for the PlayStation 2 as part of the Sega Ages series.
The kingdoms I'm willing to play are as follow.
First, we have Highland Kingdom. Dragon Force's White Knight, Wein, rules over the south-eastern region of Legendra with justice, peace, love, bla bla bla, etc. Highland is usually considered as the beginner's choice. It's a region fairly easy to defend, with decent officers such as Rudger and Galam who uses soldiers and cavalry respectively with great CMD (which improves units on the field of honor!).
Then, we have one of the secret characters.
Next, there's Teiris, of the Palemoon Kingdom. The Queen of Elves rules over the forest at the middle-eastern corner of Legendra. We're in for a rough start should we select her; Archers are worth zit, and that's her main forces.
Mikhal of Izumo Nation, located south of Fandaria. His only troops are samurais, and they're nothing to sneeze at, as they're the only effective troop against a bigger threat - dragons. However, being south of Fandaria would mean that we'd get pummeled around over and over. Interesting.
The second character we unlock...
Leon of Topaz. Kung Fu. Martial Arts. Monks. Jackie Chans. Best zombie killers in the game. Starts north of Tradnor, between Fandaria and Tristan. Quite a rough beginning, but it gets easier later on in the game once we get some cavalry and casters to make up for our weakness against harpies and soldiers. This Kingdom is all about brute strength.
And last but not least, we have Gongos of Bozack, which might prove to be the most difficult scenario after Teiris with the conditions I've given myself. We're located south of Izumo, and our other neighbor is Highland. Which means Soldiers and Samurais. However, Gongos focuses mainly on the beast units, which sadly shares a weakness against the both of them. HOWEVER, the monarch's personnality makes up for it, I guarantee you.
The choice is yours to make. I do have an idea of which Kingdom I'll pick, but maybe you can influence my final decision before I start the world domination stuff and what not.
What will it be?
Gentlemen.
It has come to my attention that this board has already seen a journey through Legendra with cj iwakura, who finished the game as Junon. (http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=37245)
I have joined the PA forums with the intention of doing a new Dragon Force Let's Play: Although I will be giving myself a few challenges.
1: I will never change a character's class unit. That means if I get characters such as Teiris and she's using archers, I won't use a crest to get dragons and faceroll to victory.
2: I will never abandon a castle, nor back down from a battle. That means Retreat will never be an option, even if I get attacked in a 1:5 situation.
3: No chasing enemy officers down if they retreat from a castle I recently conquered or defended. That makes the game a bit more lengthy.
That being said, my screenshot quality will be better than cj's.
First things first. I offer you the possibility of chosing my destiny. Since some of you might have already seen iwakura's run through, I'll even add the 2 secret characters into the selection! Anything but Junon and Reinhart, for obvious reasons. (It would've been far too easy to roll through Legendra with harpies anyway.)
But if you need a description of the 8 kingdoms from my point of view, I can type it out, but I don't have as many image ressources as our previous host.
For now, at least. But his thread has all the information you'd ever need, monarch screenshots, continent's shape and whatnot.ON WITH THE CONTENT! ... ... Yeah.
(Straight from Wiki: ) Dragon Force is a real-time strategy and tactics video game from Sega created for the Sega Saturn. It was created in Japan and translated for U.S. release by Working Designs in 1996. A sequel, never translated, was released for the Saturn in Japan in 1998. The first title was re-released for the PlayStation 2 as part of the Sega Ages series.
The kingdoms I'm willing to play are as follow.
First, we have Highland Kingdom. Dragon Force's White Knight, Wein, rules over the south-eastern region of Legendra with justice, peace, love, bla bla bla, etc. Highland is usually considered as the beginner's choice. It's a region fairly easy to defend, with decent officers such as Rudger and Galam who uses soldiers and cavalry respectively with great CMD (which improves units on the field of honor!).
Then, we have one of the secret characters.
Goldark, of Fandaria Empire. I won't reveal any spoilers about our Mad Lion just yet, however. He is viewed as the main threat on Legendra as he wishes for nothing less but complete domination of Legendra. He rules over the North-western region of Legendra with jaw-dropping firepower, and is easily one of the most interesting monarchs to play as. To unlock him, we must finish the game at least once. Something I've done many times already.
Next, there's Teiris, of the Palemoon Kingdom. The Queen of Elves rules over the forest at the middle-eastern corner of Legendra. We're in for a rough start should we select her; Archers are worth zit, and that's her main forces.
Mikhal of Izumo Nation, located south of Fandaria. His only troops are samurais, and they're nothing to sneeze at, as they're the only effective troop against a bigger threat - dragons. However, being south of Fandaria would mean that we'd get pummeled around over and over. Interesting.
The second character we unlock...
along with Goldark is Reinhart, King of Tradnor Kingdom. He uses mages. Now usually, mages are really poor fighters (although slightly better than archers since mages kills zombies), but Reinhart is the most powerful magician of Legendra. I'd tell you more about it, but I've spoiled enough already. Surprisingly, Tradnor starts with an impressive army. However, they begin in the dead middle of the Continent, and that means everyone and their mother will be attacking us from all flanks.
Leon of Topaz. Kung Fu. Martial Arts. Monks. Jackie Chans. Best zombie killers in the game. Starts north of Tradnor, between Fandaria and Tristan. Quite a rough beginning, but it gets easier later on in the game once we get some cavalry and casters to make up for our weakness against harpies and soldiers. This Kingdom is all about brute strength.
And last but not least, we have Gongos of Bozack, which might prove to be the most difficult scenario after Teiris with the conditions I've given myself. We're located south of Izumo, and our other neighbor is Highland. Which means Soldiers and Samurais. However, Gongos focuses mainly on the beast units, which sadly shares a weakness against the both of them. HOWEVER, the monarch's personnality makes up for it, I guarantee you.
The choice is yours to make. I do have an idea of which Kingdom I'll pick, but maybe you can influence my final decision before I start the world domination stuff and what not.
What will it be?
Feel the heat that is but a glimmer of eternal torment!
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How strict are you planning on being with this? Are you only going to use any given general's default, AI selected troop type, even if they have more than one class they can naturally use? I wouldn't mind being able to use other types that they are natively capable of :P (Cinna -> Harpies; Teiris -> Cavalry; etc.)
That's what I've taken to doing in recent years. Not only does it mean a longer game, it also means more awards and more levels. Although since you plan to never change troop types, that particular benefit is somewhat less important; as it's mainly an award builder for the endgame, where I load all the DF members up with dragon crests.
The only exception I MIGHT do is at the beginning of the game. If, for instance, I select Highland, I wouldn't hesitate to give Rudger monks and leave the soldier job to Wein and Link. That's it. Everyone else will keep their AI units.
Dragons aren't a necessity for me. Although I like building up levels to see how much MP my officers can get in the end. I always stack Astea statues and give them to my monarch. It feels so good to have unlimited magic for a fight or two.
And !Reinhart
I love his attitude so much.
If you want, I could copy over the intro.
I was actually considering doing a Reinhart run through afterwards, but I doubt the board would find my going through it again very interesting. :P So more power to you for this.
Here's the alternative intro, have a small taste of all the monarchs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxc8Kd6KfAs
Oh, and I realize storming Legendra with a Harpy & Dragon brigade is the easiest, but it was mostly a casual run through. :P I'm tempted to play along with Reiny and see how I do.
Oh, feel free to copy Reinhart's intro over here. So far, it seems like I'll have to go through his story again
I screencapped the Truitt intro, but most readers here prefer video, so I guess the clip above will do. I don't have anything from the Reinhart campaign, so if he wins(which he better :P), I think it's all you.
I do have a breakdown of the six 'normal' kingdoms, for what that's worth. I'd have to add the two hidden ones to it.
Palemoon Kingdom
Tristan Empire
Topaz Kingdom
Izumo Nation
Bozack Nation
Crests are for losers! Good on sticking with the default. That's all I ever do anymore too, though sometimes I'm forced to ditch archers/mages for the odd endgame boss here or there. (It can make one of the secret bosses in the PS2 version a total pain in the ass, too.)
Fandaria Kingdom
...Should I Debug and do event 415-418?
Goldark: 2
Gongos: 3
Reinhart's is pretty humorous too, for the most part, since he's such a smart mouth. :P But I can accept Gongos as a second.
I love how the two hidden characters are so polarized.
Makes for a really short game, though.
Makes a Reinhart game much more interesting.
Well...
I'll let people vote for what they want for a bit before I start things up for good. I'll be doing this LP through snapshots, and, of course, we'll discuss strategy and tactical before each invasions.
EDIT: Or Reinhart is ahead.
cw iwakura will probably do a better job than me for our Red mage anyway.
However, I'm still ready to run Gongos or Goldark and any of the other chosen ones but Junon!
As for that Mikhal scenario,
The first picture appears to be Hayate coming to Shirox's rescue.
Here's two samples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq9YbzLjLJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6fbyFQF0Kc
My two favorites, though Mikhal's, Leon's, and Goldark's are also really good.
Correct. The whole Dragon Force soundtrack is great, and each Monarch's theme song fits their personnality. You'll just have to hear Gongos's. Being a beastman, the first sound you hear are battle drums. Goldark's sounds dark, heroic and intimidating. Reinhart's got lots of harps, Wein's is heroic, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3u5Z4EnDCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caiC-H-Ux4k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Qeu8B820w
The art in the PS2 version is pretty sweet, though it seems the designers were strong proponents of the impossible shirt.
Anyway, I've been convinced. I'm going to do what Hematophilia isn't.
Yep, I'm doing a Reinhart campaign, fresh off the heels of Junon's conquest.
And for all the times I've beaten this game, I'm going to take on a similar challenge. No class changes. Reinhart will use nothing but Mages, and same for his commanding troupe.
Also, I won't be thoroughly detailing the campaign like I did for Junon. I'll just be posting occasional highlights, my progress, and interesting developments. Probably the plot if people want.
This is still Hema's LP. I'm just tagging along. :P
Perhaps you can think of it as a race between Bozack and Tradnor. ;-)
As we've seen Gongos' introduction, without further ado... here is Reinhart's.
Yes. It appears to be so. As the power of Astea wanes, it is only a matter of time before he breaks the seal.
The other day, I felt the warm light of Astea in the east.
She probably presented a revelation to someone... with the last of her strength.
The Eight Warriors of the Star Dragon, do you think?
Yes, Tsugal. The ones given Harsgalt's power. At this crucial time, they must be out there somewhere.
They might not know who or what they really are, though. I'll bet they're very surprised when they find out!
We must gather those Warriors of the Dragon Force, and join our strengths as soon as possible!
Lord Reinhart, a messenger from Fandaria brings a letter. I think you should read this.
...from Fandaria?
It's a declaration of war from Goldark. Not only against us, but with every kingdom in the land.
I always imagined Goldark would start a war someday, but I didn't expect him to be fair about it and announce it.
Wasn't the death of the last king due to his plotting?
I hate to say it, but it is almost certain, yes. I regret that I could not save Gyzzdark.
It wasn't your fault, Lord Reinhart. You weren't there. Don't be so hard on yourself.
It wasn't Lord Reinhart's fault. But that is the past. It is more important now to decide our course of action.
Fandaria's prosperity has shown amazing growth lately.
Their army has many outstanding commanders. Kharhaz comes to mind...
And, their fighting spirit is at an all-time high.
Plus, there are magic users like Gaul and Scythe. It is obvious that they are not human.
I would not be surprised to learn Madruk commanded them.
At the ancient battle against Madruk, there were three of a magic race called the Apostles of Darkness.
I'm guessing that Gaul and Scythe are two of those three.
Oh... it's beginning to make sense now... I understand why they have so much power.
Then, who is the last one?
I don't know. I've tried, but... I can't feel that power anywhere in this land.
I wonder if Goldark himself is the last one?
Goldark... hmm......
He has his dark side, that's for sure. If he is an ordinary human, then it's understandable that he may be controlled by Gaul and Scythe.
I can also feel the light within him.
The light that can lead Legendra to a better future? That would be unbelievable. One thing is clear.
We must prepare a military buildup. We have to be prepared to meet the coming invasion.
I will inform Presto and Bardal.
I have an idea. To start, I would like to arrange a meeting... with the sovereigns of the surrounding kingdoms.
That would be Topaz, Tristan, Bozack, Izumo,and Palemoon.
I wonder if they'll respond to our offers of negotiation?
Whatever it takes, my friends. We shall do whatever it takes.
Does that mean we do battle and take them as prisoners?
I know it would be tough... um, our army can do that, right?
Then, how about Highland?
I have a few favors I want to ask of King Wein. But, I do not want Madruk's minions learning of this!
Carry on as if nothing out of the ordinary is happening. If it comes to a fight, use all the resources you have.
I will see that all units receive the order, Sire.
Oh, and explain this well to Presto. He must understand the seriousness of this.
Yes, Sophie. What is it?
It's about the... people who joined you the other day. You know... Uryll, Ardor, Santana... Gigg.
Do you think we can really trust them?
Of course we can, Sophie. Ardor is a knight of justice and honor. He can use magic and we can expect good things from him.
Gigg treats us with trust and respect, does he not? It wouldn't be wise to discriminate against him because he is a dragonman.
Yes, but Ardor's loyalty is for Lady Uryll. Lady Uryll has some dark cloud hanging over her.
And I feel the presence of evil in her man, Santana. I wonder if they might not be serving Madruk?
Mmm, you might be right. Perhaps Santana is. But not Uryll. She is looking for something else.
It will be alright... as long as we are careful.
But... I just think she may be dangerous, m'lord.
Perhaps you are jealous because she is so beautiful?
Lord Reinhart!! I am just worried about you.
Ha, ha, ha! I am just teasing you. Well, let's go. Presto and the others tire of waiting for us, I'm certain.
We'd better hurry or they might fall asleep again.
But then there's Junon, the ruthless black knight, who never once gets played for fanservice, as far as I could tell.
So... I guess I'm not really sure what I wanted to say.
Soldier: Good: Archer, Mage, Monk, Beast
Average: Soldier, Samurais
Bad: Cavalry, Harpies, Zombies, Dragons.
Cavalry: Good: Soldier, Archer, Samurai, Mage
Average: Cavalry
Bad: Monk, Beast, Harpies, Zombies, Dragons
Archer: Excellent: Harpies
Good: Monk
Average: Mage, Archers
Bad: Soldiers, Cavalry, Samurai, Beast, Dragons
Very bad: Zombies
Samurai: Excellent: Dragons
Good: Archer, Mage, Monk, Beast
Average: Soldier, Samurai
Bad: Cavalry, Harpies, Zombies.
Mage: Excellent: Harpies
Good: Zombies
Average: Mage, Archers
Bad: Soldier, Cavalry, Samurai, Monk, Beast, Dragon
Monk: Excellent: Zombies
Good: Cavalry, Mage
Average: Monk, Beast
Bad: Archer, Soldier, Samurai, Dragon
Beast: Good: Cavalry, Mage, Archers
Average: Monk, Beast
Bad: Zombie, Soldier, Samurai, Dragon
Harpies: Good: Soldier, Cavalry, Samurai, Monk, Beast, Zombie
Average: Harpies
Bad: Dragons
Very bad: Archers, Mage
Zombies: Excellent: Archers
Good: Soldier, Cavalry, Samurai, Beast
Average: Zombies
Bad: Mage, Harpies, Dragons
Very bad: Monk
Dragons: Good: Soldier, Cavalry, Archers, Beast, Zombies, Mage, Harpies, Monks
Average: Dragons
Very bad: Samurai
Sirens are used by Scythe's final form. They are good against everything, however seems to be particuliarly weak to Harpies.
Kyoems, Results of Kyoem's Phantom spell, are good against everything but samurais.
Correct me if I'm wrong, fellow DF players.
However, there's one thing I hate concerning the Mikhal and Reinhart scenario.