If we count in the Clint Eastwood Salarian and your two starting partners, that leaves us, according to that list, with 3 as of yet unmentioned party NPCs. Any takers on what it's gonna be?
Shouldn't it be 4 people we don't know about yet?
Subject Zero, Thane, and Grunt have had character videos. Tits McGee and the other guy from the demo make 5. Clint Eastwood makes 6, and there are a total of 10 slots in the roster we've seen. Is there someone else I'm forgetting?
If we count in the Clint Eastwood Salarian and your two starting partners, that leaves us, according to that list, with 3 as of yet unmentioned party NPCs. Any takers on what it's gonna be?
Shouldn't it be 4 people we don't know about yet?
Subject Zero, Thane, and Grunt have had character videos. Tits McGee and the other guy from the demo make 5. Clint Eastwood makes 6, and there are a total of 10 slots in the roster we've seen. Is there someone else I'm forgetting?
Tali, right? Unless she's a placeholder.
I thought she was just sort of around, the way most of your people are supposed to pop up at some point so you can see what they've been up to. Though it's entirely possible I missed something.
I dunno about Tali tbh, there's some weird stuff with her and the Geth data you recover, novel spoiler:
In the novel the Quarian council don't know anything about the reapers aside from the fact Saren used one to control the Geth. So its safe to assume that Tali never returned to the migrant fleet with or without the geth data. She'd at least have told them not to try anything with the reapers.
I dunno about Tali tbh, there's some weird stuff with her and the Geth data you recover, novel spoiler:
In the novel the Quarian council don't know anything about the reapers aside from the fact Saren used one to control the Geth. So its safe to assume that Tali never returned to the migrant fleet with or without the geth data. She'd at least have told them not to try anything with the reapers.
The geth data didn't have anything to do with the Reapers. It's not safe to assume anything with a book written specifically to avoid providing any 'canon' details.
I dunno about Tali tbh, there's some weird stuff with her and the Geth data you recover, novel spoiler:
In the novel the Quarian council don't know anything about the reapers aside from the fact Saren used one to control the Geth. So its safe to assume that Tali never returned to the migrant fleet with or without the geth data. She'd at least have told them not to try anything with the reapers.
The geth data didn't have anything to do with the Reapers. It's not safe to assume anything with a book written specifically to avoid providing any 'canon' details.
In fact, wasn't the whole point
of her side quest to find information on geth that were completely free of Saren/Sovereign and their influence? I seem to recall Tali specifically making that point if you talk to her enough before you get the geth base clearing quest. The information she had wouldn't have included anything at all about the reapers, though she herself should have been able to tell the Quarian's what was going on.
It appears that BioWare has removed any official reference to the old 'up to 12 recruitable characters' bit. Somebody on the BioWare forums came up with a list of 12 possible characters but it's all just become speculation.
1. Jacob
2. Miranda
3. Thane
4. Grunt
5. Clint Eastwood salarian
6. Unstable biotic (Ed. Subject Zero)
7. Tali
8. Ashley
9. Liara
10. Kaidan
11. Wrex
12. Geth
I thought I remember BioWare suggesting 12 new characters to recruit from, plus any who might return from the first game. But that may have been speculation. It certainly seemed to suggest that there might be characters who wouldn't join depending upon who you already recruited.
But we won't know until they release more information. Personally, I think they removed the reference to '12 characters' because they had to make some design cuts and needed to cover the new setup. Whatever it is, it looks like Shepard will have a cast of ten (instead of the original six) to choose from when going on an actual mission, regardless of how many 'recruitable' types there are.
I dunno about Tali tbh, there's some weird stuff with her and the Geth data you recover, novel spoiler:
In the novel the Quarian council don't know anything about the reapers aside from the fact Saren used one to control the Geth. So its safe to assume that Tali never returned to the migrant fleet with or without the geth data. She'd at least have told them not to try anything with the reapers.
The geth data didn't have anything to do with the Reapers. It's not safe to assume anything with a book written specifically to avoid providing any 'canon' details.
In fact, wasn't the whole point
of her side quest to find information on geth that were completely free of Saren/Sovereign and their influence? I seem to recall Tali specifically making that point if you talk to her enough before you get the geth base clearing quest. The information she had wouldn't have included anything at all about the reapers, though she herself should have been able to tell the Quarian's what was going on.
Tali's 'sidequest' never shows up until after you get the data. But yes, the whole Pilgrimage thing is completely independent of Saren and His Lovable Geth.
As for Tali telling the quarian mucky-mucks about the Reapers? Well, I'd bet she would... And then we find out that all Councils everywhere simply don't believe it when they're told an amazingly fantastical story about giant, sentient ships who like to kill all life in the galaxy on a repeated cycle.
Or it's not entirely worth considering as 'an important detail'. Tali seemed to make it very clear that she'd return to her fleet once Saren is dealt with. At least, there was zero development about her after her 'sidequest' is completed to suggest otherwise.
Really excited for Subject Zero, just sayin' to balance out some of the hate here. A character archetype that Bioware hasn't done before, looks to have an interesting story(albeit a bit of a boo-hoo emo past, but they handled Kaidan well, I'm sure they can do Zero just fine,) and her romance/sex scene plot looks to be absolutely fascinating.
And the reason she's not wearing armor? She's one of the most powerful Biotics in the galaxy(I assume.) She's got no need to wear full armor if she can bounce bullets with her mind. It's one of the things that will let her act like a superpowerful biotic without necessarily breaking the game. Since there was no talk in ME1 about any way to cancel out Biotics, it stands to reason that she's safe.
So I'm pretty excited for the NPCs so far. Sooo looking forwards to future reveals. I would have liked it if Zero's had been coupled with some sweet location shots beforehand, like Grunt's was, but it still looked nice.
Really excited for Subject Zero, just sayin' to balance out some of the hate here. A character archetype that Bioware hasn't done before, looks to have an interesting story(albeit a bit of a boo-hoo emo past, but they handled Kaidan well, I'm sure they can do Zero just fine,) and her romance/sex scene plot looks to be absolutely fascinating.
And the reason she's not wearing armor? She's one of the most powerful Biotics in the galaxy(I assume.) She's got no need to wear full armor if she can bounce bullets with her mind. It's one of the things that will let her act like a superpowerful biotic without necessarily breaking the game. Since there was no talk in ME1 about any way to cancel out Biotics, it stands to reason that she's safe.
So I'm pretty excited for the NPCs so far. Sooo looking forwards to future reveals. I would have liked it if Zero's had been coupled with some sweet location shots beforehand, like Grunt's was, but it still looked nice.
Actually, the Subject Zero hate/love has been pretty even. Most of the love was just in the previous thread. Now it's all doom and gloom.
this is basically a sci-fi spin on the Dirty Dozen, Seven Samurai, Magnificent Seven, etc.
The kind of people you recruit for this kind of job aren't very nice
It's actually a bit old to dredge that back up... But ME2 is the 'dark' second act of a three act drama. It's been a basic function of drama probably since before paper was invented. The first act sets everything up. The second act ramps up the drama against the protagonist(s). The third act resolves it. (Usually with a rousing, heroic flair.)
Whatever BioWare is doing, they're hardly doing it because it's the 'hip and marketable' thing to do.
I thought I remember BioWare suggesting 12 new characters to recruit from, plus any who might return from the first game. But that may have been speculation. It certainly seemed to suggest that there might be characters who wouldn't join depending upon who you already recruited.
I've had a feeling that it's going to work that way for a while now, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Of course, it's unlikely because Bioware would be putting a lot of work into companions that some people wouldn't even see(and they hate doing that,) but you never know. I'd certainly appreciate it, it would add a bit of verisimilitude to the gameworld.
I'd like to see other returning characters, though it's unlikely they'll bring back any who may have already died as full main characters (though certainly those maybes will return in some way or other if they survived).
Of the originals, three might have died, and we know we have Tali, leaving Liara and Garrus. Liara's one of the love interests (as are two of the possibly deceased) so her plot will probably be very similar to the other potential love interests if they return, which leaves Garrus, who, frankly, I'd love to see return as a team member. He could do with a little fleshing out, perhaps, but when his face is fully textured, good gosh is that one good lookin' Turian.
I'd like to see other returning characters, though it's unlikely they'll bring back any who may have already died as full main characters (though certainly those maybes will return in some way or other if they survived).
Of the originals, three might have died, and we know we have Tali, leaving Liara and Garrus. Liara's one of the love interests (as are two of the possibly deceased) so her plot will probably be very similar to the other potential love interests if they return, which leaves Garrus, who, frankly, I'd love to see return as a team member. He could do with a little fleshing out, perhaps, but when his face is fully textured, good gosh is that one good lookin' Turian.
surely the curbstomp can be a renegade action, like punching the reporter, or blocking wrex on facebook
What would the paragon option be? Helping him back up and explaining why he should be good?
A pat on the shoulder and a "You did your best."
All right, I'll admit that's pretty good.
I hate the direction ME2 and Dragon Age are going.
Don't think that's what being shown in the marketing stuff as the full extent of the game.
They're trying to sell the game to people who aren't already sold on Bioware games and showing bits like this is just one way of doing it.
Plus a lot of the other stuff is really boring to watch.
Endless dialogue trees are like golf, some people might like to watch it, but it puts the vast majority of people asleep unless they're actually playing the game themselves.
exactly
i mean the fallout 3 trailers don't show you walking and talking for 10 minutes straight, and boy howdy did people love to assume this meant dialogue in that game was dead
In any given play through you can't have anymore than two dead teammates, but when we're talking about all possible playthroughs there are three people who can possibly die: Wrex, Ashley, and Kaiden. So anythe work spent on any of them will not be seen by a certain percentage of the people who import their ME1 saves.
Given bioware understandably hates putting a lot of effort into players might never see, people are using that as a quick and dirty reason to discount those three as possible returns and leave three characters from the original game that might come back with Tali and fill out the roster.
The Clint Eastwood salarian should be dubbed Harry Sallarahan.
i cannot believe you just give these kinds of ideas away
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I just finished playing Mass Effect, and beside quite a few drawbacks, it was still a very enjoyable roleplay game, and I'm all excited for this sequel. Overally I really liked the setting and main storyline, which might just be the best story in any Bioware game to date.
In any given play through you can't have anymore than two dead teammates, but when we're talking about all possible playthroughs there are three people who can possibly die: Wrex, Ashley, and Kaiden. So anythe work spent on any of them will not be seen by a certain percentage of the people who import their ME1 saves.
Given bioware understandably hates putting a lot of effort into players might never see, people are using that as a quick and dirty reason to discount those three as possible returns and leave three characters from the original game that might come back with Tali and fill out the roster.
Yeah, but I mean, come on. If you killed off
Wrex
then ME2 should start with a dialogue window telling you that you did it wrong and must now replay the original Mass Effect before continuing.
Also a screen that says
"You left Kaiden to die? What the fuck is wrong with you?"
Man, while Subject Zero looks interesting enough, no way does a cool cat like my Renegade Shepard put his life on the hands of an unhinged lunatic like that.
Now, I'm more like a Thane sort of dude. Of course if Garrus and Wrex return then he can collect dust in the Normandy as well, but out of all the new ones, he's certainly my favorite.
Can't believe how much better the graphics look though. I thought since they were going with the same engine everything would look the same. Even the dialogue seems smoother.
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Tali, right? Unless she's a placeholder.
I thought she was just sort of around, the way most of your people are supposed to pop up at some point so you can see what they've been up to. Though it's entirely possible I missed something.
In fact, wasn't the whole point
I thought I remember BioWare suggesting 12 new characters to recruit from, plus any who might return from the first game. But that may have been speculation. It certainly seemed to suggest that there might be characters who wouldn't join depending upon who you already recruited.
But we won't know until they release more information. Personally, I think they removed the reference to '12 characters' because they had to make some design cuts and needed to cover the new setup. Whatever it is, it looks like Shepard will have a cast of ten (instead of the original six) to choose from when going on an actual mission, regardless of how many 'recruitable' types there are.
As for Tali telling the quarian mucky-mucks about the Reapers? Well, I'd bet she would... And then we find out that all Councils everywhere simply don't believe it when they're told an amazingly fantastical story about giant, sentient ships who like to kill all life in the galaxy on a repeated cycle.
Or it's not entirely worth considering as 'an important detail'. Tali seemed to make it very clear that she'd return to her fleet once Saren is dealt with. At least, there was zero development about her after her 'sidequest' is completed to suggest otherwise.
And the reason she's not wearing armor? She's one of the most powerful Biotics in the galaxy(I assume.) She's got no need to wear full armor if she can bounce bullets with her mind. It's one of the things that will let her act like a superpowerful biotic without necessarily breaking the game. Since there was no talk in ME1 about any way to cancel out Biotics, it stands to reason that she's safe.
So I'm pretty excited for the NPCs so far. Sooo looking forwards to future reveals. I would have liked it if Zero's had been coupled with some sweet location shots beforehand, like Grunt's was, but it still looked nice.
have you not read the synopsis of this game
it's a suicide mission
this is basically a sci-fi spin on the Dirty Dozen, Seven Samurai, Magnificent Seven, etc.
The kind of people you recruit for this kind of job aren't very nice
Actually, the Subject Zero hate/love has been pretty even. Most of the love was just in the previous thread. Now it's all doom and gloom.
Also, quads.
"Some are for kills, you know, good ones. And some are for because, hey, fuck you."
No no, honey.
Fuck you.
It's actually a bit old to dredge that back up... But ME2 is the 'dark' second act of a three act drama. It's been a basic function of drama probably since before paper was invented. The first act sets everything up. The second act ramps up the drama against the protagonist(s). The third act resolves it. (Usually with a rousing, heroic flair.)
Whatever BioWare is doing, they're hardly doing it because it's the 'hip and marketable' thing to do.
I bet this bitch has a razor lined strap on that she's raped more than one person with.
Thats the kind of crazy she comes off as.
I've had a feeling that it's going to work that way for a while now, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Of course, it's unlikely because Bioware would be putting a lot of work into companions that some people wouldn't even see(and they hate doing that,) but you never know. I'd certainly appreciate it, it would add a bit of verisimilitude to the gameworld.
Miranda, Jacob, Grunt, Thane, Subject Zero, Salarian Clint Eastwood, Tali. That leaves three.
I'd like to see other returning characters, though it's unlikely they'll bring back any who may have already died as full main characters (though certainly those maybes will return in some way or other if they survived).
Of the originals, three might have died, and we know we have Tali, leaving Liara and Garrus. Liara's one of the love interests (as are two of the possibly deceased) so her plot will probably be very similar to the other potential love interests if they return, which leaves Garrus, who, frankly, I'd love to see return as a team member. He could do with a little fleshing out, perhaps, but when his face is fully textured, good gosh is that one good lookin' Turian.
Everything makes Dove angry.
Hearing him complain about something is like seeing the sun come up in the morning.
Of the originals, two might have died.
:winky:
Interacts with the rest of the team. Using her pelvis.
:winky:
There's that too. :winky:
@Fatty: Hey, it does.
:winky:
Team him up with her. Using his pelvis.
:winky:
exactly
i mean the fallout 3 trailers don't show you walking and talking for 10 minutes straight, and boy howdy did people love to assume this meant dialogue in that game was dead
Given bioware understandably hates putting a lot of effort into players might never see, people are using that as a quick and dirty reason to discount those three as possible returns and leave three characters from the original game that might come back with Tali and fill out the roster.
Cue post-coital cutscene with Shepard crying into his bloody bedsheets.
i cannot believe you just give these kinds of ideas away
Yeah, but I mean, come on. If you killed off
Also a screen that says
Now, I'm more like a Thane sort of dude. Of course if Garrus and Wrex return then he can collect dust in the Normandy as well, but out of all the new ones, he's certainly my favorite.
Can't believe how much better the graphics look though. I thought since they were going with the same engine everything would look the same. Even the dialogue seems smoother.
Ah, cool. I was hoping for a Salarian party member in the first game, so this makes me very happy.