Hey guys, first of all i'm happy to find a pretty good artforum here on PA! PA rocks!
anyways, i'm an art/gamedesign student at PHL Belgium and i'dd love to show you guys some of my works for come c&c.
enjoy!
here's a sketch i did for a friends d&d character. Somekind of nomad on a holy mission.
these chickens are for a schoolproject i'm working on.
Some 20min. sketches, i'm way to slow...
a 30min. sketch, again, i'm way to slow to actually finish something, still pretty happy with the result though.
thats it for now!
if you want to see more of my art you can visit:
http://www.sanduuur.deviantart.com
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What made you think that saying this is in any way helpful or constructive?
Well as far as helpful goes with this, I would recommend more figuring out how much time it would actually take to make something you like rather then trying to rush as fast as possible in order to seem pro and coming in saying oh my gosh it was 20 minutes, and then if taking the time is literally taking you like 2 hours to just get the basic form right, then if your focus is to improving and not just doing fun doodles you should consider why your trying to create these things and what you should be studying to improve it.
it wasn't him saying "is 20 minutes to little time on this" it was either him trying to say "oh gosh guys this took a whole 20 minutes i'm so amazing" or "oh jeeze my ADD cant span over 30 minutes"
It took him probably about 2 seconds to write how long it took him to create the piece of art. It's likely not something he put a whole lot of thought into. No need to read so deeply into it.
Fast-drawing is a way to train your eyes on working with shapes, lines and overall correct drawing. First impressions are the best most of the time.
i'm not here to show off, i'm here for critique.
are you an artist btw? if you are i would like to hear about your methods and techniques.
edit: Speed comes from understanding a form of procedure and efficiently performing it. To try to teach someone speed only is ludicrous.
You are right, i have some real problems with actually finishing paintings. I get stuck at the sketchie look, but i'll try your pointers!
cheers!
i've seen your deviantart, quiet impressive!
I think its really strange how you reacted! I had too do alot of model-drawing at school, and the teachers told us that the faster you get your basics of the drawing the better? When you have the basics you can spend more time on detail and finish a drawing in a shorter period of time (which really comes in handy when you're working with deadlines)
with experience, your speed increases because you can visually measure better and build a sound structure in a shorter amount of time, ignoring this only builds bad habits.
We'll offcourse, i use shapes and structures, i dont just go at it. And ok, i'm not as good, and i may not be working the right way, but i'm here for critique and help for that reason. I'm not learning anything by you just complaining on what i'm doing wrong.
Anyway, thanks for actually explaining yourself. I'm still a noob on basic anatomy and i should do some more model-drawing classes. I hope i can find the time to do that this semester.
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haha, thanks for the pointers
cheers!
Structure is very important, and absolutely vital for any animator/concept artist.
I do like how you're trying a lot of things all at once here; better to do that than to hesitate in any element of drawing. What you should focus on now is simplifying your construction, and I mean simple; box form figures with correct proportions.
They are the basis of every imagination construction from the mind's eye, and the entire anatomy is built around this foundation. Once you get solid with the box forms, then you can move on to more advanced practice techniques, like extended gestures and geometric form analysis.
Get those down and then throwing down your anatomy is a fucking cakewalk. The guy who teaches my anatomy class was/is a veteran Disney animator, as well as a powerhouse realist painter, and i've saved so much time, energy and effort over his methods that its astounding.
Setting up a figure for realism and construction is actually very different; all depends on what you're going for here.
welcome to the ac, i'm sincerely sorry that you got such a rude welcome.
i can see your teacher's point about the quick drawings as you're doing a course in game art
for game concepting, it's pretty standard that in the pre-production stages, employers will ask for tons of small, quick, gritty thumbnails just to get ideas across...sort of like drawing brainstorming.
so yes, speed is an issue in this very applied situation that you clearly stated you are working towards.
that being said, of course doing figure studies will help you a lot in both this stage and subsequent development stages where more finalized, polished drawings are needed
but your instructor is by no means a dumbass
so welcome to the forums
and i really love those chickens
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