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    El GuacoEl Guaco Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lt. Fragg wrote: »
    Pancake wrote: »
    DICE needs to buff hit detection first

    And also give all weapons the same bullet drop as sniper rifles.

    This.

    Why they didn't apply bullet drop to all weapons make me scratch my head. Did they think it would be considered too hard or something?

    A lot of game design decisions like this one are made for game balancing and the fun factor. It has nothing to do with reality. There are lots of other unrealistic things about shooters that make me cringe, but I have to keep reminding myself it's just a game or I'd go crazy. Don't even get me started on shotgun spread patterns. I've ranted about this in other games and other threads and it's still one of those sins game developers commit in the name of game balance (or ignorance, I'm not sure which sometimes). Or how about how easy it is to aim when you're moving? Anyone who has ever fired a real weapon will tell you that it's nearly impossible to hit anything smaller than a truck even while walking, let alone running. But we do it all the time in gaming.

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    ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    SoaL wrote: »
    snipers just shoot really slow bullets

    The tracer is slower than the actual bullet.

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    PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    El Guaco wrote: »
    Lt. Fragg wrote: »
    Pancake wrote: »
    DICE needs to buff hit detection first

    And also give all weapons the same bullet drop as sniper rifles.

    This.

    Why they didn't apply bullet drop to all weapons make me scratch my head. Did they think it would be considered too hard or something?

    A lot of game design decisions like this one are made for game balancing and the fun factor. It has nothing to do with reality. There are lots of other unrealistic things about shooters that make me cringe, but I have to keep reminding myself it's just a game or I'd go crazy. Don't even get me started on shotgun spread patterns. I've ranted about this in other games and other threads and it's still one of those sins game developers commit in the name of game balance (or ignorance, I'm not sure which sometimes). Or how about how easy it is to aim when you're moving? Anyone who has ever fired a real weapon will tell you that it's nearly impossible to hit anything smaller than a truck even while walking, let alone running. But we do it all the time in gaming.

    It's not that fun for everyone to be better at shooting the sniper at long range than it is for the sniper to shoot them since no one else has to worry about any appreciable bullet drop.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Well I ended up with Sheep in my squad earlier out of sheer co-incidence, since we weren't even in a party. Then I left at the end of the game because I was about to smash my controller with rage after being killed approximately 635 times by the same dude with his sniper shotgun. SPAS with magnum rounds, apparently.

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    JauntyJaunty Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    [PA] Jabberwokky is my little sister, she doesn't post here but don't kick her anyways because she is awesome.

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    JauntyJaunty Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    El Guaco wrote: »
    Lt. Fragg wrote: »
    Pancake wrote: »
    DICE needs to buff hit detection first

    And also give all weapons the same bullet drop as sniper rifles.

    This.

    Why they didn't apply bullet drop to all weapons make me scratch my head. Did they think it would be considered too hard or something?

    A lot of game design decisions like this one are made for game balancing and the fun factor. It has nothing to do with reality. There are lots of other unrealistic things about shooters that make me cringe, but I have to keep reminding myself it's just a game or I'd go crazy. Don't even get me started on shotgun spread patterns. I've ranted about this in other games and other threads and it's still one of those sins game developers commit in the name of game balance (or ignorance, I'm not sure which sometimes). Or how about how easy it is to aim when you're moving? Anyone who has ever fired a real weapon will tell you that it's nearly impossible to hit anything smaller than a truck even while walking, let alone running. But we do it all the time in gaming.

    I really think some of those decisions need to be re-evaluated though. I can understand tweaking shotguns from their real-life counterparts to make them less potent at range, but things like this actually seem to detract. Having snipers that are crap at close range but easily matched by AR's at all but the most extreme ranges is not something that adds to the game experience for me.

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    RageRage Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Black House has been switched to Conquest for the next day or two, just to mix things up a little.

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    LookFreeGrenadeLookFreeGrenade Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I like how even when they do a complete rehaul of the veteran shit I still can't input my 1942 or vietnam keys

    yes website, someone already claimed it. That is the logical explaination

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited March 2010
    So I can see the Garand available in my gadgets now, but I still can't select it in-game.

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    SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Jaunty wrote: »
    [PA] Jabberwokky is my little sister, she doesn't post here but don't kick her anyways because she is awesome.

    so she is a poser

    ban her

    BAN HER


    edit: i am actually a member of the wu-tang clan

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    L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'm happy with snipers being as disadvantaged as possible. I liked it better in the old battlefields where sniper was just a joke class, though.

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    Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Snipers are people too :(

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    SladvanSladvan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Snipers are people too :(

    Nope. Recons are though.

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Snipers are people too :(

    Terrible, terrible people.

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    only sometimes

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Sladvan wrote: »
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Snipers are people too :(

    Nope. Recons are though.

    Action-Recons are two people.

    Maybe more when motion mines are out.

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    but the worst are snipers who take vehicles just for themselves so they can get better sniping positions

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    MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Snipers are people too :(

    No, no they aren't.

    They are snipers.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    tyrannus wrote: »
    but the worst are snipers who take vehicles just for themselves so they can get better sniping positions

    Like flying a helicopter onto a mountain.

    And then the dude says in squad chat, "Nah bra noobs snipe down there".

    Then somebody on the other team RPGs the helicopter along with the brosef sitting there all scoped.

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    Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    FYI my most-played class is now assault.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Is 40mm'ing someone in their face not the most fun thing in the world?

    I think so.

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    SladvanSladvan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Malkor wrote: »
    Is 40mm'ing someone in their face not the most fun thing in the world?

    I think so.

    Not as awesome as RPG'ing a Humvee heading for a roadkill and watching it flip over your head in a fiery wreck.

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Malkor wrote: »
    Is 40mm'ing someone in their face not the most fun thing in the world?

    I think so.

    Watching them run for cover to a wall or house then blowing up said cover with them is so much better.

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    Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Man I don't use that. I use the shotgun with slugs.

    Pow, motherfucker.

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    god forbid you use something that doesn't have the capacity to kill in one shot

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    SladvanSladvan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Man I don't use that. I use the shotgun with slugs.

    Pow, motherfucker.

    Oh, you mean the thing closest to the TF2 sniper rifle?

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Every once in awhile I'll use the 40mm shotgun.

    That's OK, except it is not as awesome as blowing shit up.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited March 2010
    tyrannus wrote: »
    but the worst are snipers who take vehicles just for themselves so they can get better sniping positions

    Once on Port Valdez I saw a recon beeline for a quad, gun it halfway down the hill and then stop there. He switched to the back seat and sat there sniping.

    So he became my new hood ornament because the fucker was right in the middle of the road and fuck him, I'm not driving around him.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Echo wrote: »
    tyrannus wrote: »
    but the worst are snipers who take vehicles just for themselves so they can get better sniping positions

    Once on Port Valdez I saw a recon beeline for a quad, gun it halfway down the hill and then stop there. He switched to the back seat and sat there sniping.

    So he became my new hood ornament because the fucker was right in the middle of the road and fuck him, I'm not driving around him.

    haha, that's awesome. What the hell good does sitting on the back of a quad do?

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    SladvanSladvan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Echo wrote: »
    tyrannus wrote: »
    but the worst are snipers who take vehicles just for themselves so they can get better sniping positions

    Once on Port Valdez I saw a recon beeline for a quad, gun it halfway down the hill and then stop there. He switched to the back seat and sat there sniping.

    So he became my new hood ornament because the fucker was right in the middle of the road and fuck him, I'm not driving around him.

    I wonder if he parked it at an angle, so when returning sniper fire came he could quickly switch seat to seat to dodge bullets. Clever girl.

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Sladvan wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    tyrannus wrote: »
    but the worst are snipers who take vehicles just for themselves so they can get better sniping positions

    Once on Port Valdez I saw a recon beeline for a quad, gun it halfway down the hill and then stop there. He switched to the back seat and sat there sniping.

    So he became my new hood ornament because the fucker was right in the middle of the road and fuck him, I'm not driving around him.

    I wonder if he parked it at an angle, so when returning sniper fire came he could quickly switch seat to seat to dodge bullets. Clever girl.

    I doubt a recon would be this smart.

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    tehkensaitehkensai Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    damn you angry dome stop dying

    I want to keep throwing motion sensors

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Action-Recon would be that smart. Except instead of leaving the quad on a hill the prototypical Action-Recon player would make Jeremy McGrath proud plus blow shit up.

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    CommunistCowCommunistCow Abstract Metal ThingyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Does anyone know how to level up the sniper quickly besides motion sensor spam and spotting?

    I just found how easy it was to level the medic with my lovely defib revive spamming.

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Does anyone know how to level up the sniper quickly besides motion sensor spam and spotting?

    I just found how easy it was to level the medic with my lovely defib revive spamming.

    Motion mine + shotgun.

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    SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    haha oh wow the m60

    it's just appalling

    Edit: sort of like the shotgun hit detection

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Does anyone know how to level up the sniper quickly besides motion sensor spam and spotting?

    I just found how easy it was to level the medic with my lovely defib revive spamming.

    Steal a dead medic's stuff.

    Make sure he ain't a noob, nothing is worse than taking a kit and having no defib or medpacks!

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    CommunistCowCommunistCow Abstract Metal ThingyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Malkor wrote: »
    Does anyone know how to level up the sniper quickly besides motion sensor spam and spotting?

    I just found how easy it was to level the medic with my lovely defib revive spamming.

    Steal a dead medic's stuff.

    Make sure he ain't a noob, nothing is worse than taking a kit and having no defib or medpacks!

    Really? This works?

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    Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    tyrannus wrote: »
    god forbid you use something that doesn't have the capacity to kill in one shot
    Well, exactly!
    Sladvan wrote: »
    Oh, you mean the thing closest to the TF2 sniper rifle?
    God forbid I play something in a manner that I'm good at and enjoy.

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Malkor wrote: »
    Does anyone know how to level up the sniper quickly besides motion sensor spam and spotting?

    I just found how easy it was to level the medic with my lovely defib revive spamming.

    Steal a dead medic's stuff.

    Make sure he ain't a noob, nothing is worse than taking a kit and having no defib or medpacks!

    Really? This works?

    Pretty sure it doesn't. You gain points in whatever kit you have equipped.

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