Boomers might make fun of their parents for depression-era shenanigans like washing plastic forks or re-using paper towels, but they're just as bad.
Just look at how they react to internet porn.
by signing up for malware infested pay-sites?
This is an amusing side-effect of their porn browsing habits and inability to use a computer.
But no, I am referring to the way they feel the need to see all of it and stockpile. And how they have absolutely no taste for it. They just look at EVERYTHING. Fetish, amateur, pro, old, young... any thing.
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The advertising is all about things that apparently demonstrate the Polar Bear as having appropriately Australian sensibilities. In one advertisement campaign the bear uses a urinal.
urinating in an place designed for urination strikes me as fundamentally unAustralian
Unless they're recovering alcoholics. But I think that's a contradiction.
this is something that bothers me. I choose to not drink much, if at all. I have always been responsible with alcohol the few times I have had it, and I made the decision that it is not for me, the risks do not outweigh the gains enough for me to make drinking a serious part of my life.
Yet, people judge me for this! Then those same people will turn around and congratulate a recovering alcoholic for staying sober. Yes, it is good he/she is sober, but stop judging me just because I never let my life get bad enough where I needed an intervention to stop alcohol abuse.
goodness. yes, sorry, just needed a bit of a rant.
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I am to the point of no return I guess. I saved right before. I picked a fire team leader (Samara) and a specialist to hack the door (Legion). After opening the 8 valves..I go to a cut scene and Legion dies.
Is there anyway to avoid this? I thought I heard someone say there was a no death path.
Yes, there is one. Some of it is based on doing loyalty missions, the rest on picking the right people for the right jobs.
All my peeps be loyal and I have all the combat related ship upgrades. Why isn't the super advanced robot the right person for the hacking job? :P
Did you go to the last ship like RIGHT AFTER you got attacked or did you wait around and do some other stuff?
That makes a difference too
I had already done everything there is to do except for like random exploration missions. So I went straight there. It's odd though because Miranda comments that Samara is a really good choice for fireteam leader. I will replay that section with Miranda as the leader and see what happens.
But no, I am referring to the way they feel the need to see all of it and stockpile. And how they have absolutely no taste for it. They just look at EVERYTHING. Fetish, amateur, pro, old, young... any thing.
But no, I am referring to the way they feel the need to see all of it and stockpile. And how they have absolutely no taste for it. They just look at EVERYTHING. Fetish, amateur, pro, old, young... any thing.
I am to the point of no return I guess. I saved right before. I picked a fire team leader (Samara) and a specialist to hack the door (Legion). After opening the 8 valves..I go to a cut scene and Legion dies.
Is there anyway to avoid this? I thought I heard someone say there was a no death path.
Yes, there is one. Some of it is based on doing loyalty missions, the rest on picking the right people for the right jobs.
All my peeps be loyal and I have all the combat related ship upgrades. Why isn't the super advanced robot the right person for the hacking job? :P
Did you go to the last ship like RIGHT AFTER you got attacked or did you wait around and do some other stuff?
That makes a difference too
I had already done everything there is to do except for like random exploration missions. So I went straight there. It's odd though because Miranda comments that Samara is a really good choice for fireteam leader. I will replay that section with Miranda as the leader and see what happens.
It's not too hard. You just have to think about what each character's specialty is. She's not a great leader because before joining you, she always worked alone.
I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Basically this. On top of that, I strongly feel that the AA method is one of addiction replacement, not addiction recovery, where the new object of addiction is AA itself.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Yep. They claim otherwise but I've sat in on meetings. It's pretty good at taking people at their most wretched and vulnerable and turning them to religion. It's not ALWAYS Christianity. Depends on who is running it. I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't often legally required for alcoholics who have committed related crimes.
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I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Basically this. On top of that, I strongly feel that the AA method is one of addiction replacement, not addiction recovery, where the new object of addiction is AA itself.
Unless they're recovering alcoholics. But I think that's a contradiction.
this is something that bothers me. I choose to not drink much, if at all. I have always been responsible with alcohol the few times I have had it, and I made the decision that it is not for me, the risks do not outweigh the gains enough for me to make drinking a serious part of my life.
Yet, people judge me for this! Then those same people will turn around and congratulate a recovering alcoholic for staying sober. Yes, it is good he/she is sober, but stop judging me just because I never let my life get bad enough where I needed an intervention to stop alcohol abuse.
goodness. yes, sorry, just needed a bit of a rant.
Yeah, dude, it bothers me too. Let me buy you a drink if I've offended you or anyth- Oh. Right.
I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Yep. They claim otherwise but I've sat in on meetings. It's pretty good at taking people at their most wretched and vulnerable and turning them to religion. It's not ALWAYS Christianity. Depends on who is running it. I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't often legally required for alcoholics who have committed related crimes.
There are, however, alternatives that do not rely on "admiting powerlessness to a higher power"
I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Yep. They claim otherwise but I've sat in on meetings. It's pretty good at taking people at their most wretched and vulnerable and turning them to religion. It's not ALWAYS Christianity. Depends on who is running it. I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't often legally required for alcoholics who have committed related crimes.
it's a bizarre cultlike group
You're never better. You always need to spend 7 days a week at AA meetings or you'll be a drunk again overnight.
I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Yep. They claim otherwise but I've sat in on meetings. It's pretty good at taking people at their most wretched and vulnerable and turning them to religion. It's not ALWAYS Christianity. Depends on who is running it. I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't often legally required for alcoholics who have committed related crimes.
There are, however, alternatives that do not rely on "admiting powerlessness to a higher power"
Yeah, we are talking about AA specificially here though. Not the idea of support groups in general.
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Unless they're recovering alcoholics. But I think that's a contradiction.
this is something that bothers me. I choose to not drink much, if at all. I have always been responsible with alcohol the few times I have had it, and I made the decision that it is not for me, the risks do not outweigh the gains enough for me to make drinking a serious part of my life.
Yet, people judge me for this! Then those same people will turn around and congratulate a recovering alcoholic for staying sober. Yes, it is good he/she is sober, but stop judging me just because I never let my life get bad enough where I needed an intervention to stop alcohol abuse.
goodness. yes, sorry, just needed a bit of a rant.
Yeah, dude, it bothers me too. Let me buy you a drink if I've offended you or anyth- Oh. Right.
you can buy me a soda, I don't preach to my friends, and I go to bars to hang out with them too. I just generally don't like to drink.
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Unless they're recovering alcoholics. But I think that's a contradiction.
yeah i mean i can't really criticize their choices i guess, but they are not generally people that i actually want to hang out with.
:?
this is like how you hate vegetarians dude
oh no a lifestyle choice that is not mine! they are obviously unfit company!
i mean unless they are all preachy about it, which is not something i have ever encountered with the teetotes i have ever known
i regard vegetarians with kind of a generalized cultural suspicion and i don't generally like to dine with them. I guess i give them a pass if they have some sort of exotic religious requirement. it's inconvenient, sometimes embarrassing, and it carries the patchouli stench of west-coast hippie cultural sensibilities.
the reason i don't like to hang out with teetotalers is that the social dynamics between the drunk and not-drunk are not fun. i don't like being around drunk people if i'm sober and i don't like being around sober people if i'm drunk. teetotalers are always sober and therefore never fun to do thing with that involve drinking (which, i won't lie, is a whole lot of my world of social activities)
I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Yep. They claim otherwise but I've sat in on meetings. It's pretty good at taking people at their most wretched and vulnerable and turning them to religion. It's not ALWAYS Christianity. Depends on who is running it. I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't often legally required for alcoholics who have committed related crimes.
That is interesting and conflicting to me. I'm all about support, but yeah, if it's replacing one addiction with another, that's something else entirely. Though one has to wonder if the dangers of the one addiction outweigh the other. Hmm...thanks for making me think, today, [chat]
Unless they're recovering alcoholics. But I think that's a contradiction.
this is something that bothers me. I choose to not drink much, if at all. I have always been responsible with alcohol the few times I have had it, and I made the decision that it is not for me, the risks do not outweigh the gains enough for me to make drinking a serious part of my life.
Yet, people judge me for this! Then those same people will turn around and congratulate a recovering alcoholic for staying sober. Yes, it is good he/she is sober, but stop judging me just because I never let my life get bad enough where I needed an intervention to stop alcohol abuse.
goodness. yes, sorry, just needed a bit of a rant.
Yeah, dude, it bothers me too. Let me buy you a drink if I've offended you or anyth- Oh. Right.
you can buy me a soda, I don't preach to my friends, and I go to bars to hang out with them too. I just generally don't like to drink.
Unless they're recovering alcoholics. But I think that's a contradiction.
yeah i mean i can't really criticize their choices i guess, but they are not generally people that i actually want to hang out with.
:?
this is like how you hate vegetarians dude
oh no a lifestyle choice that is not mine! they are obviously unfit company!
i mean unless they are all preachy about it, which is not something i have ever encountered with the teetotes i have ever known
i regard vegetarians with kind of a generalized cultural suspicion and i don't generally like to dine with them. I guess i give them a pass if they have some sort of exotic religious requirement. it's inconvenient, sometimes embarrassing, and it carries the patchouli stench of west-coast hippie cultural sensibilities.
the reason i don't like to hang out with teetotalers is that the social dynamics between the drunk and not-drunk are not fun. i don't like being around drunk people if i'm sober and i don't like being around sober people if i'm drunk. teetotalers are always sober and therefore never fun to do thing with that involve drinking (which, i won't lie, is a whole lot of my world of social activities)
yeah well this is all wrong but who cares lets get drunk
The advertising is all about things that apparently demonstrate the Polar Bear as having appropriately Australian sensibilities. In one advertisement campaign the bear uses a urinal.
urinating in an place designed for urination strikes me as fundamentally unAustralian
You are thinking of the British. Australians might get very, very drunk and urinate in the street, but when in control of their faculties they are toilet trained.
The British just piss everywhere after a beer. Or a glass of water. There are signs outdoors explicitly forbidding public urination. Like it's a thing that needs to be stated.
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peach schnapps + vodka + Orange Juice= Fuzzy Navel= Ludious drinking a lot of fuzzy navels= pants on head retarded
I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Basically this. On top of that, I strongly feel that the AA method is one of addiction replacement, not addiction recovery, where the new object of addiction is AA itself.
Just fucking read Infinite Jest already! :P
This is a major theme of the work.
Evil Multifarious (I think) was saying that it's not a good book to read if you're dealing with depression.
My depression is the most severe right now it's been in about ten years.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I'd probably be against AA, but my dad, by all accounts, was an absolutely VICIOUS alcoholic, and he's been sober and more-or-less mentally healthy for my whole life. So it gets a pass in my book.
Why would one be against support groups?
AA doesn't have success rate any better than going cold turkey and was invented as a tool for recruiting vulnerable addicts into Christianity.
Basically this. On top of that, I strongly feel that the AA method is one of addiction replacement, not addiction recovery, where the new object of addiction is AA itself.
Just fucking read Infinite Jest already! :P
This is a major theme of the work.
Evil Multifarious (I think) was saying that it's not a good book to read if you're dealing with depression.
My depression is the most severe right now it's been in about ten years.
ok that might be a good reason
@Japan: pears have been out of season for six months.
The advertising is all about things that apparently demonstrate the Polar Bear as having appropriately Australian sensibilities. In one advertisement campaign the bear uses a urinal.
urinating in an place designed for urination strikes me as fundamentally unAustralian
You are thinking of the British. Australians might get very, very drunk and urinate in the street, but when in control of their faculties they are toilet trained.
The British just piss everywhere after a beer. Or a glass of water. There are signs outdoors explicitly forbidding public urination. Like it's a thing that needs to be stated.
In some places they just go ahead and put urinals right there in the street.
The ones in Newquay are all high-tech and rise out of the ground at ten pm, then sink back out of sight at six in the morning.
I've got three nonfiction books I need to get through, and then I'll be moving on to fiction. Probably Cloud Atlas, Blood Meridian, and Pale Fire in that order.
Depending on how I feel after Pale Fire, I might read Infinite Jest.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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yeah i hate it. it's basically a gamecube with the gimmick that the controls suck and the other gimmick that 95% of the games are crappy shovelware.
it's frankie's though, so i can't pawn it or give it away
it pains me to think about it because it means that Defender (of SE++) was right all along.
Like No More Heroes is supposed to be an awesome game on the Wii but it looks like garbage and the controls are equivalently shitty.
When I first got the system I thought it had a lot of potential, i mean it was the only current generation (console) i'd used first hand at that point.
I think the gamecube is the only semi-recent nintendo console that i have not been rabidly disappointed by.
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This is an amusing side-effect of their porn browsing habits and inability to use a computer.
But no, I am referring to the way they feel the need to see all of it and stockpile. And how they have absolutely no taste for it. They just look at EVERYTHING. Fetish, amateur, pro, old, young... any thing.
urinating in an place designed for urination strikes me as fundamentally unAustralian
this is something that bothers me. I choose to not drink much, if at all. I have always been responsible with alcohol the few times I have had it, and I made the decision that it is not for me, the risks do not outweigh the gains enough for me to make drinking a serious part of my life.
Yet, people judge me for this! Then those same people will turn around and congratulate a recovering alcoholic for staying sober. Yes, it is good he/she is sober, but stop judging me just because I never let my life get bad enough where I needed an intervention to stop alcohol abuse.
goodness. yes, sorry, just needed a bit of a rant.
just like the photos i've seen of the 70s
shudder
Got to be prepared!
There are connotative differences.
People rarely refer to themselves as "teetotalers" any more. They just say "I don't drink."
The difference between saying "I don't do [X]" and coming up with a label and identity that means "I don't do [X]" is huge.
Straight-edge is an identity and subculture.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It's not too hard. You just have to think about what each character's specialty is. She's not a great leader because before joining you, she always worked alone.
Basically this. On top of that, I strongly feel that the AA method is one of addiction replacement, not addiction recovery, where the new object of addiction is AA itself.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
They are not synonyms.
A Cabury is someone who is drunk after a glass and a half of beer.
Teetotalers may indeed have a low alcohol tolerance but it's not the thrust of the term.
Yep. They claim otherwise but I've sat in on meetings. It's pretty good at taking people at their most wretched and vulnerable and turning them to religion. It's not ALWAYS Christianity. Depends on who is running it. I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't often legally required for alcoholics who have committed related crimes.
Just fucking read Infinite Jest already! :P
This is a major theme of the work.
Yeah, dude, it bothers me too. Let me buy you a drink if I've offended you or anyth- Oh. Right.
There are, however, alternatives that do not rely on "admiting powerlessness to a higher power"
it's a bizarre cultlike group
You're never better. You always need to spend 7 days a week at AA meetings or you'll be a drunk again overnight.
Yeah, we are talking about AA specificially here though. Not the idea of support groups in general.
Narconon though... Whoa boy.
i regard vegetarians with kind of a generalized cultural suspicion and i don't generally like to dine with them. I guess i give them a pass if they have some sort of exotic religious requirement. it's inconvenient, sometimes embarrassing, and it carries the patchouli stench of west-coast hippie cultural sensibilities.
the reason i don't like to hang out with teetotalers is that the social dynamics between the drunk and not-drunk are not fun. i don't like being around drunk people if i'm sober and i don't like being around sober people if i'm drunk. teetotalers are always sober and therefore never fun to do thing with that involve drinking (which, i won't lie, is a whole lot of my world of social activities)
It tastes...
That is interesting and conflicting to me. I'm all about support, but yeah, if it's replacing one addiction with another, that's something else entirely. Though one has to wonder if the dangers of the one addiction outweigh the other. Hmm...thanks for making me think, today, [chat]
and this is why what will said earlier bugged me
even though i love the hooch
yeah well this is all wrong but who cares lets get drunk
You are thinking of the British. Australians might get very, very drunk and urinate in the street, but when in control of their faculties they are toilet trained.
The British just piss everywhere after a beer. Or a glass of water. There are signs outdoors explicitly forbidding public urination. Like it's a thing that needs to be stated.
Evil Multifarious (I think) was saying that it's not a good book to read if you're dealing with depression.
My depression is the most severe right now it's been in about ten years.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
The pears are not properly ripe, and I'm not wild about this wine.
ok that might be a good reason
@Japan: pears have been out of season for six months.
Like when they get gas from their home made baba ganuj?
No stress, no seeds, no stems, no sticks.
In some places they just go ahead and put urinals right there in the street.
The ones in Newquay are all high-tech and rise out of the ground at ten pm, then sink back out of sight at six in the morning.
i have already cast judgement on my little sister's boyfriend for his inability to properly spell words on his facebook
is this wrong?
i mean he is like 16 or whatever but dammit son these words are not difficult to spell!
i mean misspelling for humor's sake is one thing (poast, cheezburger, etc) but "career" "totally" and "supposed" are not difficult words to spell
You're a harsh critic, japan.
I was out of ideas, so I've just gone for tomato and mozzarella salad followed by steak and rosemary potato wedges, this eve.
I should likely pick some some watercress or some such for the side. And wine. And some matches, because my housemate has hidden them.
I've got three nonfiction books I need to get through, and then I'll be moving on to fiction. Probably Cloud Atlas, Blood Meridian, and Pale Fire in that order.
Depending on how I feel after Pale Fire, I might read Infinite Jest.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
it pains me to think about it because it means that Defender (of SE++) was right all along.
Like No More Heroes is supposed to be an awesome game on the Wii but it looks like garbage and the controls are equivalently shitty.
When I first got the system I thought it had a lot of potential, i mean it was the only current generation (console) i'd used first hand at that point.
I think the gamecube is the only semi-recent nintendo console that i have not been rabidly disappointed by.