right now compulsive exercise is kind of categorized as an eating disorder/form of anorexia, though either way it stems from the more general problem of anxiety/depression.
Kinda veering way off the point by now. That sort of compulsive exercise stems from the poor self body image and the 'need' to make yourself thinner or more fit constantly. Whereas what I thought you were talking about was when people got 'addicted' to exercise and the 'runner's high' aspect.
Completely off the track from generalized depression and anxiety.
man, if you don't call that anxiety, i don't know what is.
This of course makes the base assumption that your issues stem from decisions that you make, rather than a chemical imbalence - whatever that may be.
Chemical imbalances aren't pseudoscience, despite your attitude.
And anyone handing out prescriptions is going to have to determine that the person getting the pills needs them; they aren't just handing them out to everyone who just watched the beginning of "Up".
I don't know where you're getting the impression that I think that it's a pseudoscience, I was merely assuming that there are many different kinds of chemical imbalences. I doubt that all issues stem from a lack or over abundance of one chemical. I actually agree with Jerry that it is interesting that mood is also a result of chemicals within the mind, or however he put it.
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edited May 2010
I used to be on Zoloft, that stuff was fucked. It gave me suicidal tendancies, not cured the problems I had. I told the Doctor that I was going cold turkey from 150mgs a day and he said it was "Unwise and dangerous"
The day I got off them was the day I was on my feet and I realised there is no cure for this.
I used to be on Zoloft, that stuff was fucked. It gave me suicidal tendancies, not cured the problems I had. I told the Doctor that I was going cold turkey from 150mgs a day and he said it was "Unwise and dangerous"
The day I got off them was the day I was on my feet and I realised there is no cure for this.
Well that and I was mis-diagnosed.
He's right though. If the medication is a strong enough dose and you go cold turkey on it you can get extremely sick. It's more like withdrawal than anything.
I used to take Zoloft, went cold turkey, and it turns out my dose was too small anyway.
I know lots of people on depression meds here in America. My best friend and I both were on a number of them and went off of them together to try and handle things for ourselves. It was the best decision we had ever made, as I guess psych meds just didn't work right for us. We have extremely similar bi-polar disorders that we have learned to treat ourselves over time.
Just recently she moved back home to Washington and now we are truly on our own for dealing with our bi-polar. It has been working out fine so far. I mean we call each other and stuff when we need someone to talk to, but it's a big step not having each other there in person.
For us another human being that understood was far more helpful than any medication could have been.
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
sometimes i think i have depression, but that always depresses me, so i don't think about it.
also on the rare occasions i contemplate suicide it makes me think how much of a selfish fucking douchebag i am to even think about doing something like that to my family and it makes me depressed.
When I was at my worst I was convinced that I was selfish for not killing myself, and that any short-term tragedy that caused my family would be made up for by the lack of financial burden and me not being around to constantly disappoint them.
The fact that I honestly thought that way less than a year ago really kind of blows my mind.
Anytime I think about killing myself I'm reminded of how it made me feel when my cousin killed himself and then I get angry at him for doing that.
Years later, still so mad.
And sad
my older brother killed himself and my dad tried once by mixing booze and pain pills after my mom left, so most of the time when i think about killing myself i think about that night, at three in the morning, when my grandmother and grandfather came to our house and sat us all down on the couch and told us what happened to Steven and i decide that no amount of personal pain or fake-problems could ever be worth seeing my mom at another funeral for one of her boys.
That sucks Metz, I hope that at least your dad was able to get some help with his problems and is doing better.
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
Well he's not suicidal any more, but he's still addicted to pain meds, to the point where no local hospitals will give him any pain meds. He has to go to Seattle. I want to talk to him about it but I just don't know how.
Man, watching this episode reminds me how relatively easy my own struggle with depression was. It was purely psychological, not clinical, so all I needed to do was sort of..."fix" my personality. I had to get a new perspective on life. Which, while certainly not easy, also doesn't seem nearly as difficult as what Mike and Jerry had to do.
My best friend, however, is clinically depressed, and he and his parents are still trying to find a treatment that works well for him. There was a particularly bad time a couple years ago where an medication he was taking nearly made him suicidal. That was pretty scary.
Jesus, I had no idea so many of you were on medication
is it that common in America?
Depression/anxiety medication is pretty popular in America, yeah. It also seems to be common on the internet, and at times especially the forums.
We're all crazy here on these forums.
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edited May 2010
whenever I had thoughts of suicide, my mind would always conjure up realistic seeming scenes of how such a thing would affect people I know, as well as reminding me of just how many people it would affect.
so hey has anyone in here done that gay shit where they post that depression isn't really a disease etc etc
I think the closest we have seen to that in this thread was people talking about how pills aren't always the right solution. And how sometimes people are prescribed things that end up not helping them or make things even worse.
Depression/ADHD was wildly diagnosed not too long ago.
Now that I'm off Zoloft I know I don't have a depression problem(not clinically anyway) but I feel like I have an anxiety problem a little bit. I tend to kind of freak out over stuff beyond my control. Like if I forget if I locked my door or not.
I can't really relate to this subject. No medication or any mental problems...I think. In fact, my friend shot himself back about ten years ago. So instead of having suicidal thoughts I'm afraid friends and family might just be putting up a facade of happiness and ready to drink a vat of bleach at any moment. It's even worse since my friend has depression and it kicked back in last year. Luckily he got some good meds and is doing fine.
This was a necessary episode, I think. Disarming, but necessary.
so hey has anyone in here done that gay shit where they post that depression isn't really a disease etc etc
I think the closest we have seen to that in this thread was people talking about how pills aren't always the right solution. And how sometimes people are prescribed things that end up not helping them or make things even worse.
well that's pretty fair
I mean cognitive behavioral therapy can be as effective or more effective than pills for lots of people
psychoanalysis not so much, but CBT is pretty rad stuff
retraining the brain and suchforth
I need to do that for my panic disorder. I've had some really crippling hypochondria of late, and lexapro has been pretty mediocre for it.
You know I find it really strange that you guys see ads for anti-depressants on tv in America.
It doesn't seem like it's a particularly good idea to me.
It's a horrible idea. As are all of the ads for various other prescription medications for never before heard of conditions.
It isn't good.
Well, I think in the latter case, manufacturing the medication at all is potentially terrible.
On the other hand, if people really want to medicate themselves for bee's knees or restless jaw or whatever, I guess that's their choice. Maybe you can argue that advertising subverts choice and whatnot. Maybe people should pay more attention. I dunno.
My favorite was some bullshit prescription drug for a condition of excessive perspiration, but every time they mentioned it in the commercial, it wasn't "Do you sweat more than other people?" It was always, "Do you feel like you sweat more than other people?"
I just find it, not right like it disturbs me on a fundamental level that they are marketing these things to people and these people aren't qualified to make their decision. (of course they're argument is, it's MY body I know what's right! To which is say fuck off you goose)
I used to be on Zoloft, that stuff was fucked. It gave me suicidal tendancies, not cured the problems I had. I told the Doctor that I was going cold turkey from 150mgs a day and he said it was "Unwise and dangerous"
The day I got off them was the day I was on my feet and I realised there is no cure for this.
Well that and I was mis-diagnosed.
He's right though. If the medication is a strong enough dose and you go cold turkey on it you can get extremely sick. It's more like withdrawal than anything.
I used to take Zoloft, went cold turkey, and it turns out my dose was too small anyway.
That's the weird thing, I felt normal the next day, by the afternoon I felt much much better. The guy wanted me on them for another 5 years after the 3 years I was already on them, I could not bear it anymore.
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man, if you don't call that anxiety, i don't know what is.
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I don't know where you're getting the impression that I think that it's a pseudoscience, I was merely assuming that there are many different kinds of chemical imbalences. I doubt that all issues stem from a lack or over abundance of one chemical. I actually agree with Jerry that it is interesting that mood is also a result of chemicals within the mind, or however he put it.
I got all excited at that part and was thinking the same thing and then Mike told that story and...
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We've had a thread made at least once a week, every week, asking the same question.
For shame, Veretas.
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Oh, right. I had totally forgotten.
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The day I got off them was the day I was on my feet and I realised there is no cure for this.
Well that and I was mis-diagnosed.
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He's right though. If the medication is a strong enough dose and you go cold turkey on it you can get extremely sick. It's more like withdrawal than anything.
I used to take Zoloft, went cold turkey, and it turns out my dose was too small anyway.
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is it that common in America?
Depression/anxiety medication is pretty popular in America, yeah. It also seems to be common on the internet, and at times especially the forums.
What, serious?
Man, sweet.
Just recently she moved back home to Washington and now we are truly on our own for dealing with our bi-polar. It has been working out fine so far. I mean we call each other and stuff when we need someone to talk to, but it's a big step not having each other there in person.
For us another human being that understood was far more helpful than any medication could have been.
i thought 'you know what'll make me fit in at school? a suicide attempt!'
also on the rare occasions i contemplate suicide it makes me think how much of a selfish fucking douchebag i am to even think about doing something like that to my family and it makes me depressed.
Years later, still so mad.
The fact that I honestly thought that way less than a year ago really kind of blows my mind.
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my older brother killed himself and my dad tried once by mixing booze and pain pills after my mom left, so most of the time when i think about killing myself i think about that night, at three in the morning, when my grandmother and grandfather came to our house and sat us all down on the couch and told us what happened to Steven and i decide that no amount of personal pain or fake-problems could ever be worth seeing my mom at another funeral for one of her boys.
My best friend, however, is clinically depressed, and he and his parents are still trying to find a treatment that works well for him. There was a particularly bad time a couple years ago where an medication he was taking nearly made him suicidal. That was pretty scary.
So...uh...yeah. This episode hit home for me.
We're all crazy here on these forums.
that helped me a lot.
I think the closest we have seen to that in this thread was people talking about how pills aren't always the right solution. And how sometimes people are prescribed things that end up not helping them or make things even worse.
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Now that I'm off Zoloft I know I don't have a depression problem(not clinically anyway) but I feel like I have an anxiety problem a little bit. I tend to kind of freak out over stuff beyond my control. Like if I forget if I locked my door or not.
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This was a necessary episode, I think. Disarming, but necessary.
well that's pretty fair
I mean cognitive behavioral therapy can be as effective or more effective than pills for lots of people
psychoanalysis not so much, but CBT is pretty rad stuff
retraining the brain and suchforth
I need to do that for my panic disorder. I've had some really crippling hypochondria of late, and lexapro has been pretty mediocre for it.
Xanax, however. Fuck yes.
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I just find it, not right like it disturbs me on a fundamental level that they are marketing these things to people and these people aren't qualified to make their decision. (of course they're argument is, it's MY body I know what's right! To which is say fuck off you goose)
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That's the weird thing, I felt normal the next day, by the afternoon I felt much much better. The guy wanted me on them for another 5 years after the 3 years I was already on them, I could not bear it anymore.
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