I know it shouldn't affect the larger part of the game, but just knowing that Boob Tube achievment is there is such a major turnoff.
Meh. Video games cost money to make. If they got some cash from Verizon to put an obscure advert in a part of a level that you normally wouldn't access that contains no other bonuses, I personally wouldn't consider it that big of a deal.
Yeah, Microsoft has been hurting for cash lately.
I thought they were just publishing it, though.
I kind of agree with Sheep on this. Especially since Alan Wake in particular has been in development for a long-ass time. Gotta recoup those costs.
I know it shouldn't affect the larger part of the game, but just knowing that Boob Tube achievment is there is such a major turnoff.
Meh. Video games cost money to make. If they got some cash from Verizon to put an obscure advert in a part of a level that you normally wouldn't access that contains no other bonuses, I personally wouldn't consider it that big of a deal.
Yeah, Microsoft has been hurting for cash lately.
I thought they were just publishing it, though.
I kind of agree with Sheep on this. Especially since Alan Wake in particular has been in development for a long-ass time. Gotta recoup those costs.
Money comes from the publisher. Remedy isn't funding this, Microsoft would be.
Honestly though, if game sales aren't enough to recoup the cost then it isn't that great of a game and they can stick whatever shit in it they want. I can't imagine the money made from that advertisement is very significant when compared to how much money is brought in from game sales, though, the game is supposed to be a pretty big deal.
Money comes from the publisher. Remedy isn't funding this, Microsoft would be.
Honestly though, if game sales aren't enough to recoup the cost then it isn't that great of a game and they can stick whatever shit in it they want. I can't imagine the money made from that advertisement is very significant when compared to how much money is brought in from game sales, though, the game is supposed to be a pretty big deal.
Sales have absolutely no bearing on the quality of a product.
I also don't see the point in turning down easy money because it's "not a significant portion of development costs".
There's no problem in developers penny pinching and the like. Especially in this day and age.
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Money comes from the publisher. Remedy isn't funding this, Microsoft would be.
Honestly though, if game sales aren't enough to recoup the cost then it isn't that great of a game and they can stick whatever shit in it they want. I can't imagine the money made from that advertisement is very significant when compared to how much money is brought in from game sales, though, the game is supposed to be a pretty big deal.
Sales have absolutely no bearing on the quality of a product.
I also don't see the point in turning down easy money because it's "not a significant portion of development costs".
There's no problem in developers penny pinching and the like. Especially in this day and age.
Slippery slope man, everytime one of these fucking things comes up its just a path to watching commercials before the game actually loads.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Money comes from the publisher. Remedy isn't funding this, Microsoft would be.
Honestly though, if game sales aren't enough to recoup the cost then it isn't that great of a game and they can stick whatever shit in it they want. I can't imagine the money made from that advertisement is very significant when compared to how much money is brought in from game sales, though, the game is supposed to be a pretty big deal.
Sales have absolutely no bearing on the quality of a product.
I also don't see the point in turning down easy money because it's "not a significant portion of development costs".
There's no problem in developers penny pinching and the like. Especially in this day and age.
Slippery slope man, everytime one of these fucking things comes up its just a path to watching commercials before the game actually loads.
There are plenty of examples of much more blatant product placement that have happened in the past.
I know it shouldn't affect the larger part of the game, but just knowing that Boob Tube achievment is there is such a major turnoff.
Meh. Video games cost money to make. If they got some cash from Verizon to put an obscure advert in a part of a level that you normally wouldn't access that contains no other bonuses, I personally wouldn't consider it that big of a deal.
Yeah, Microsoft has been hurting for cash lately.
I thought they were just publishing it, though.
I kind of agree with Sheep on this. Especially since Alan Wake in particular has been in development for a long-ass time. Gotta recoup those costs.
Money comes from the publisher. Remedy isn't funding this, Microsoft would be.
Honestly though, if game sales aren't enough to recoup the cost then it isn't that great of a game and they can stick whatever shit in it they want. I can't imagine the money made from that advertisement is very significant when compared to how much money is brought in from game sales, though, the game is supposed to be a pretty big deal.
Hm, for some reason I thought Remedy had another publisher for Alan Wake before Microsoft, but I guess I'm mistaken on that point.
Also, I don't know how the compensation for the ads are handled, but if the check was written during the game's development I can see how the cash flow can be attractive, even if the amount is relatively small compared to the amount generated by game sales.
Money comes from the publisher. Remedy isn't funding this, Microsoft would be.
Honestly though, if game sales aren't enough to recoup the cost then it isn't that great of a game and they can stick whatever shit in it they want. I can't imagine the money made from that advertisement is very significant when compared to how much money is brought in from game sales, though, the game is supposed to be a pretty big deal.
Sales have absolutely no bearing on the quality of a product.
I also don't see the point in turning down easy money because it's "not a significant portion of development costs".
There's no problem in developers penny pinching and the like. Especially in this day and age.
There can easily be a correlation between game quality and sales. Generally, if a game is very good, it will sell pretty well. However, the way I said it is probably slightly different, in which case what I meant was without strong game sales the game becomes easily forgotten and nobody cares what stupid advertising you put in it.
As for your second point, where do you draw the line? Should a developer take every opportunity available for "easy money"? I don't really mind the addition of advertising in a game so long as it's subtle and doesn't detract from it, but under no circumstance can it add to a game, unless part of the game's premise has something to do with advertising in some way. If something doesn't add to the game, if it doesn't make it better, then I would personally not add it. This is purely from the standpoint of the game itself, divorcing it from the reality that this is a business and not solely an art form. I value the art more than the business, though, so I will generally criticize the business side encroaching on the art side.
If Remedy was seriously in need of this money to continue existing then that's perfectly fine, but I doubt that is the case.
There are plenty of examples of much more blatant product placement that have happened in the past.
I can't recall in recent memory having watched an advertisement and got an achievement for it.
But I can recall having to use 7Up bottle tops and Duracell batteries to get shit done in Pikmin.
As it stands, the advertisement in Alan Wake is almost separated from the game, doesn't influence the game, and you have to choose to seek it out and watch it.
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But that is a less convenient medium! I want like... a database!
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com
Some of my favorite ones:
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-701
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-231
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-882
Edit: Shit, my bad, I thought you were looking for a database of evil things, not to ward them off.
i hate you so much preacher
I thought they were just publishing it, though.
I kind of agree with Sheep on this. Especially since Alan Wake in particular has been in development for a long-ass time. Gotta recoup those costs.
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Money comes from the publisher. Remedy isn't funding this, Microsoft would be.
Honestly though, if game sales aren't enough to recoup the cost then it isn't that great of a game and they can stick whatever shit in it they want. I can't imagine the money made from that advertisement is very significant when compared to how much money is brought in from game sales, though, the game is supposed to be a pretty big deal.
As my character in Cthulhu is becoming progressively more and more paranoid I want him to be carrying more and more relics/things to ward off evil.
There was a warning and a spoiler, you challenged I answered!
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I saw!
Nice little A cups.
He won't even need to provide commentary.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/the-palin-brand/?partner=rss&emc=rss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWT07iRvI9M
All you need, my friend.
until he's shot by assassins on snow mobiles.
List of good luck charms/wards against evil. And it's Apotopaic magic if you're looking for the new age term.
Sales have absolutely no bearing on the quality of a product.
I also don't see the point in turning down easy money because it's "not a significant portion of development costs".
There's no problem in developers penny pinching and the like. Especially in this day and age.
I think she'd invoke executive privilege, and just lean out of her helicopter and pop him herself.
The body was never found due to wolves
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how do I make it so I am seeing this
Slippery slope man, everytime one of these fucking things comes up its just a path to watching commercials before the game actually loads.
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:winky: :winky:
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Hahahahah!
Nikki Haley had a sex scandal?
Nikki "I love my Christian God fearing nuclear family" Haley?
Oh man sometimes I LOVEEEE SC
Thank you mister.
There are plenty of examples of much more blatant product placement that have happened in the past.
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oh god why
I can't recall in recent memory having watched an advertisement and got an achievement for it.
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Iowhut?
Hm, for some reason I thought Remedy had another publisher for Alan Wake before Microsoft, but I guess I'm mistaken on that point.
Also, I don't know how the compensation for the ads are handled, but if the check was written during the game's development I can see how the cash flow can be attractive, even if the amount is relatively small compared to the amount generated by game sales.
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i'm way more a fan of progressive intellectual snobbery than I am of bullshit ignorant populist crap.
There can easily be a correlation between game quality and sales. Generally, if a game is very good, it will sell pretty well. However, the way I said it is probably slightly different, in which case what I meant was without strong game sales the game becomes easily forgotten and nobody cares what stupid advertising you put in it.
As for your second point, where do you draw the line? Should a developer take every opportunity available for "easy money"? I don't really mind the addition of advertising in a game so long as it's subtle and doesn't detract from it, but under no circumstance can it add to a game, unless part of the game's premise has something to do with advertising in some way. If something doesn't add to the game, if it doesn't make it better, then I would personally not add it. This is purely from the standpoint of the game itself, divorcing it from the reality that this is a business and not solely an art form. I value the art more than the business, though, so I will generally criticize the business side encroaching on the art side.
If Remedy was seriously in need of this money to continue existing then that's perfectly fine, but I doubt that is the case.
But I can recall having to use 7Up bottle tops and Duracell batteries to get shit done in Pikmin.
As it stands, the advertisement in Alan Wake is almost separated from the game, doesn't influence the game, and you have to choose to seek it out and watch it.
In exchange you get a measly 5 gamer points.
Can I steal that line?
Also, didn't that Domino's mascot get his own game too?
Only 30 stars to go!