Did you really just do the "beautiful woman is totally not beautiful enough for me" thing and throw in the "cool" emoticon?
No! That's a bad, adytum! No treat for you!
Look, I could totally see how someone could call her "hot" (though I would say moderately attractive) based on the first photograph in that series, which is from a professional photo shoot and where she is professionally made up and wearing lingerie.
So much for what a "normal" person can do without airbrushing.
The rest of the photos? Not so much. Did anyone even look at those?
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Did you really just do the "beautiful woman is totally not beautiful enough for me" thing and throw in the "cool" emoticon?
No! That's a bad, adytum! No treat for you!
Look, I could totally see how someone could call her "hot" (though I would say moderately attractive) based on the first photograph in that series, which is from a professional photo shoot and where she is professionally made up and wearing lingerie.
The rest of the photos? Not so much.
Look dude, we all know that you're saying these things only because you cannot have her.
Just come out with it. It is a completely normal coping mechanism, and does not make you a bad person.
Alright, I feel like we've crossed a sexist threshold here.
(at least my comment was empowering!)
Moving on, I wish I could have hung out with one of these spies. What would it be like to be the lamest spy? I feel like, if I were one of these people, I would let people in on the secret every now and then if I got bored.
Did you really just do the "beautiful woman is totally not beautiful enough for me" thing and throw in the "cool" emoticon?
No! That's a bad, adytum! No treat for you!
Look, I could totally see how someone could call her "hot" (though I would say moderately attractive) based on the first photograph in that series, which is from a professional photo shoot and where she is professionally made up and wearing lingerie.
The rest of the photos? Not so much.
Look dude, we all know that you're saying these things only because you cannot have her.
Just come out with it. It is a completely normal coping mechanism, and does not make you a bad person.
Did you really just do the "beautiful woman is totally not beautiful enough for me" thing and throw in the "cool" emoticon?
No! That's a bad, adytum! No treat for you!
Look, I could totally see how someone could call her "hot" (though I would say moderately attractive) based on the first photograph in that series, which is from a professional photo shoot and where she is professionally made up and wearing lingerie.
So much for what a "normal" person can do without airbrushing.
The rest of the photos? Not so much. Did anyone even look at those?
Yes, I did, there's some bad ones and some good ones which is true for just about everyone I suspect.
Alright, I feel like we've crossed a sexist threshold here.
(at least my comment was empowering!)
Moving on, I wish I could have hung out with one of these spies. What would it be like to be the lamest spy? I feel like, if I were one of these people, I would let people in on the secret every now and then if I got bored.
So they basically just lost 11 of their agents and tons of money for what? The incompetent ones here aren't the agents, it's whatever person hatched this plan. When you're risking your people make sure you're risking them for something good. There was very little chance they could actually succeed in their objective and what if they did, what could they possibly gain from knowing our chatter on Iran?
Welcome to the world of international espionage, where people are sent to spend large quantities of perfectly good money and perfectly good planes are wrecked and dismantled.
...I find it odd that a former KGB agent like Putin, who's government has had very little trouble infiltrating Chechnyan guerrilla groups so he can give semi-accurate targeting information to bombers & artillery positions, has spies operating in America that are so incompetent.
...I find it odd that a former KGB agent like Putin, who's government has had very little trouble infiltrating Chechnyan guerrilla groups so he can give semi-accurate targeting information to bombers & artillery positions, has spies operating in America that are so incompetent.
Maybe these are just the fall guys?
Chechnya isn't exactly a bastion of intelligence security.
I'm still not really sure what these spies were supposed to be doing for Mother Russia. It's not like they were breaking into the CIA and stealing secrets.
Most of the stuff Russia seemed to want these people to do (influence policymakers, keep an ear out for American foreign policy on Iran etc.) could have been done legally by a lobbyist or public relations firm.
This whole thing strikes me as an attempt by some aging spook to justify his covert ops budget.
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I may be missing something from just having read the OP quote, but why are they The Lamest Spies Ever? 'Cause they got caught? Spies got caught in the past all the time.
I may be missing something from just having read the OP quote, but why are they The Lamest Spies Ever? 'Cause they got caught? Spies got caught in the past all the time.
This is similar to the online game arguement.
Why do the people you beat suck? Because you can only win against people who suck?
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edited June 2010
it's more that they could have achieved their stated goals legally without doing anything silly
I may be missing something from just having read the OP quote, but why are they The Lamest Spies Ever? 'Cause they got caught? Spies got caught in the past all the time.
Because for 10 years they utterly failed to gather any useful intelligence, or place themselves in a position to do so? Another NYT article quotes a CIA officer or something remarking "Why didn't they just use the Internet?"
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It's possible that they were here more for what they might need to do than for what they were doing at the time. Establishing a long history makes it easier to sneak around than showing up on a plane one day with a fake ID a week before your mission.
It's possible that they were here more for what they might need to do than for what they were doing at the time. Establishing a long history makes it easier to sneak around than showing up on a plane one day with a fake ID a week before your mission.
what if these mundane spies only purpse was to cover up and distract from the fact that Obama is the biggest and highest spy the russians have. OH GOD THE REPUBLICANS WERE RIGHT
If Obama turned out to be a Russian spy I wouldn't even be mad. In fact it would probably raise my opinion of him, because the only explanation for some of his behavior is "easily persuaded by the minority party" otherwise
It's possible that they were here more for what they might need to do than for what they were doing at the time. Establishing a long history makes it easier to sneak around than showing up on a plane one day with a fake ID a week before your mission.
I'm pretty sure the redhead's mission was to acquire intel on the navy.
It's possible that they were here more for what they might need to do than for what they were doing at the time. Establishing a long history makes it easier to sneak around than showing up on a plane one day with a fake ID a week before your mission.
I'm pretty sure the redhead's mission was to acquire intel on the navy.
She could have done a better job by buying a subscription to Jane's Defense Weekly.
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It's possible that they were here more for what they might need to do than for what they were doing at the time. Establishing a long history makes it easier to sneak around than showing up on a plane one day with a fake ID a week before your mission.
I'm pretty sure the redhead's mission was to acquire intel on the navy.
She could have done a better job by buying a subscription to Jane's Defense Weekly.
Yes, that would require that she readJane's Defense Weekly. I can't say I blame her.
Do we have like detailed reports of exactly what information they got and sent back?
Because if we do not, then these spies aren't exactly the lamest spies ever. And I doubt we do.
There's no telling what they sent off in this case.
edit: And it took us SEVEN YEARS to catch these people.
Hooooold on. It didn't take us 7 years to "catch them." We waited 7 years to catch them. They were being closely monitored by the FBI for 7 years and presumably could have been caught at any time.
I imagine the feds were waiting for them to do something even remotely dangerous and were watching almost out of bored curiosity in the meantime.
They aren't being charged with espionage, which means they didn't actually get any good secrets. Unless that's what they WANT you to think...
It's possible that they were here more for what they might need to do than for what they were doing at the time. Establishing a long history makes it easier to sneak around than showing up on a plane one day with a fake ID a week before your mission.
I'm pretty sure the redhead's mission was to acquire intel on the navy.
She could have done a better job by buying a subscription to Jane's Defense Weekly.
You know, that actually makes sense. It would be odd for the CIA not to have eyes on this dude while he was out on bail.
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Justice systems differ, he was probably not considered dangerous for anyone and he didn't commit any crimes there. Or something like that, they were probably legally compelled to release him.
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Are you saying that they send us their "only moderately good-looking" ones?
I must move to Russia immediately.
Look, I could totally see how someone could call her "hot" (though I would say moderately attractive) based on the first photograph in that series, which is from a professional photo shoot and where she is professionally made up and wearing lingerie.
So much for what a "normal" person can do without airbrushing.
The rest of the photos? Not so much. Did anyone even look at those?
Oh man, you're just going to love it there...
Look dude, we all know that you're saying these things only because you cannot have her.
Just come out with it. It is a completely normal coping mechanism, and does not make you a bad person.
(at least my comment was empowering!)
Moving on, I wish I could have hung out with one of these spies. What would it be like to be the lamest spy? I feel like, if I were one of these people, I would let people in on the secret every now and then if I got bored.
You nailed it.
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Yes, I did, there's some bad ones and some good ones which is true for just about everyone I suspect.
But mostly I was just giving you crap :P
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They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
If they're good enough for French airmen, they're definitely good enough for Shakes.
So stupid.
She was caught because her hair prevented her from seeing the authorities.
Maybe these are just the fall guys?
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
wow! what's with that creepy guy on the right? He's like a younger, creepier G-man.
Most of the stuff Russia seemed to want these people to do (influence policymakers, keep an ear out for American foreign policy on Iran etc.) could have been done legally by a lobbyist or public relations firm.
This whole thing strikes me as an attempt by some aging spook to justify his covert ops budget.
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This is similar to the online game arguement.
Why do the people you beat suck? Because you can only win against people who suck?
I don't know... could they?
Consorting with Russians is the sort of thing that can get you thrown out of government and stay up on Fox news for years.
lobbying
Younger? Yes. Creepier? No.
If Obama turned out to be a Russian spy I wouldn't even be mad. In fact it would probably raise my opinion of him, because the only explanation for some of his behavior is "easily persuaded by the minority party" otherwise
I'm pretty sure the redhead's mission was to acquire intel on the navy.
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Because if we do not, then these spies aren't exactly the lamest spies ever. And I doubt we do.
There's no telling what they sent off in this case.
edit: And it took us SEVEN YEARS to catch these people.
Yes, that would require that she read Jane's Defense Weekly. I can't say I blame her.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3322471&pagenumber=1
Questioning the timing of busting the spies.
I imagine the feds were waiting for them to do something even remotely dangerous and were watching almost out of bored curiosity in the meantime.
They aren't being charged with espionage, which means they didn't actually get any good secrets. Unless that's what they WANT you to think...
What if these spies were a decoy for another spy?
Better than capturing American semen?
He fucking disappeared. Why the fuck would you put a spy on bail?