See, I remember things! Like I generally know the box scene, but I don't know how they get him. And I remember Sloth and Gluttony, but I don't really get the big reveal/the point.
So I don't know.
He gives himself up to the detectives. And the point was to show that even those who were vitreous were flawed. Even those who were fighting against the decay were nothing more then part of it.
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Oh, nothing like a mug of tea to refresh.
...I'm sorry Mori.
I kinda tea too.
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Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.
I also wonder what it says about our society that we worship these cartoonish portrayals of machismo.
It's camp. A loving parody of traditional gender roles. We recognize it's silly, but a small part of us wishes we could be that guy or be with that guy (or both!).
Psh. I wish I could be in that guy. :winky:
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I also wonder what it says about our society that we worship these cartoonish portrayals of machismo.
It's camp. A loving parody of traditional gender roles. We recognize it's silly, but a small part of us wishes we could be that guy or be with that guy (or both!).
Yes, camp would be the perfect word to describe it.
Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.
100%. Camp is a form of humor I highly appreciate, and I'm very glad Old Spice has been very successful with it.
Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.
It's better than irony anyway.
Well, camp is slightly ironic but it's slightly sincere.
The core value behind camp (or at least one of the core values, in a queer studies sense) is that the adoption of a traditional gender role is okay as long as it is freely chosen, rather than forced upon us. By showing this gender role in a humorous light, it loses it's coercive power (I couldn't think of a better term than 'coercive,' sorry) but it's not rejected entirely... because rejecting it entirely runs the risk of pressuring people to adopt equal but opposite roles.
In other words, don't take things too seriously. That's all.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.
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I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.
But it leads to the path of liking things ironically.
Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.
It's better than irony anyway.
Well, camp is slightly ironic but it's slightly sincere.
The core value behind camp (or at least one of the core values, in a queer studies sense) is that the adoption of a traditional gender role is okay as long as it is freely chosen, rather than forced upon us. By showing this gender role in a humorous light, it loses it's coercive power (I couldn't think of a better term than 'coercive,' sorry) but it's not rejected entirely... because rejecting it entirely runs the risk of pressuring people to adopt equal but opposite roles.
In other words, don't take things too seriously. That's all.
Yeah, I can see that.
I'm in an odd mood. Twenty minutes ago I was linking clips of it to my girlfriend. Now it irritates me.
I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.
But it leads to the path of liking things ironically.
Wrong, it's the medium, it's ironically liking things gone right.
I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.
Me too.
PantsB: Or liking things skeptically. When you like something ironically, that smacks of dishonesty. How can you like something but not really like it? I admit that I wish I could swan dive onto a motorcycle in a hot tub. I'd also let that man bone the hell out of me. But I don't expect either one.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.
But it leads to the path of liking things ironically.
You can't really like a thing ironically, but you can like a thing that is highly exaggerated and serves as an ironic presentation of something. Like Old Spice and manliness.
the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch
See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.
How is that confusing? Boners are a male sex trait.
yes, but elendil may or may not be a girl. or is it clever?
maybe s/he likes classical music?
Are there gender clues I'm missing? If Elendil is trans then I apologize and will call her her, but if not then I would call a penis a strong indicator of being a dude.
the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch
See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.
How is that confusing? Boners are a male sex trait.
yes, but elendil may or may not be a girl. or is it clever?
maybe s/he likes classical music?
Are there gender clues I'm missing? If Elendil is trans then I apologize and will call her her, but if not then I would call a penis a strong indicator of being a dude.
or old spice makes heirm want to go camping. NO ONE KNOWS
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I knew the ending to Zodiac because I know too much about serial killers.
It was still a really good movie.
...I'm sorry Mori.
I kinda tea too.
Maybe people just like funny videos and it has nothing to do with pretend machismo or worship.
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Yeah, maybe...
Maybe...
It's better than irony anyway.
Here's what I think of your precious tea!
Psh. I wish I could be in that guy. :winky:
nooooooooooo : (
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Coffee now.
Time to find a dark corner and WORRY.
Yes, camp would be the perfect word to describe it.
100%. Camp is a form of humor I highly appreciate, and I'm very glad Old Spice has been very successful with it.
Well, camp is slightly ironic but it's slightly sincere.
The core value behind camp (or at least one of the core values, in a queer studies sense) is that the adoption of a traditional gender role is okay as long as it is freely chosen, rather than forced upon us. By showing this gender role in a humorous light, it loses it's coercive power (I couldn't think of a better term than 'coercive,' sorry) but it's not rejected entirely... because rejecting it entirely runs the risk of pressuring people to adopt equal but opposite roles.
In other words, don't take things too seriously. That's all.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Are you tripping balls or did I read that wrong?
Also Bruce Campbell is awesome. Even his name has camp in it! Huzzah!
So I guess this came out. Anyone try it?
But it leads to the path of liking things ironically.
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Yeah, I can see that.
I'm in an odd mood. Twenty minutes ago I was linking clips of it to my girlfriend. Now it irritates me.
I need a nap.
You did both.
The work PC's monitor is higher than my laptop.
Wrong, it's the medium, it's ironically liking things gone right.
Me too.
PantsB: Or liking things skeptically. When you like something ironically, that smacks of dishonesty. How can you like something but not really like it? I admit that I wish I could swan dive onto a motorcycle in a hot tub. I'd also let that man bone the hell out of me. But I don't expect either one.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Which is dumb as shit.
See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.
How is it that my coworkers and friends have all the time in the world but I'm constantly scrambling just to stay afloat?
How is that confusing? Boners are a male sex trait.
yes, but elendil may or may not be a girl. or is it clever?
maybe s/he likes classical music?
They're not tied up in the basement.
Are there gender clues I'm missing? If Elendil is trans then I apologize and will call her her, but if not then I would call a penis a strong indicator of being a dude.
or old spice makes heirm want to go camping. NO ONE KNOWS
i thought that was elldren?