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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    I often forget if I've watched Se7en.

    The answer always turns out to be that I just want more Criminal Minds episodes and that I really should get around to watching Zodiac.

    I knew the ending to Zodiac because I know too much about serial killers.

    It was still a really good movie.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Arivia: Se7en is not a movie one easily forgets.

    See, I remember things! Like I generally know the box scene, but I don't know how they get him. And I remember Sloth and Gluttony, but I don't really get the big reveal/the point.

    So I don't know.
    He gives himself up to the detectives. And the point was to show that even those who were vitreous were flawed. Even those who were fighting against the decay were nothing more then part of it.

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Oh, nothing like a mug of tea to refresh.

    ...I'm sorry Mori.

    I kinda <3 tea too.

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    ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    I also wonder what it says about our society that we worship these cartoonish portrayals of machismo.

    Maybe I don't really wonder...

    Maybe people just like funny videos and it has nothing to do with pretend machismo or worship.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Zampanov wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    I also wonder what it says about our society that we worship these cartoonish portrayals of machismo.

    Maybe I don't really wonder...

    Maybe people just like funny videos and it has nothing to do with pretend machismo or worship.

    Yeah, maybe...

    Maybe...

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.

    It's better than irony anyway.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    Oh, nothing like a mug of tea to refresh.

    ...I'm sorry Mori.

    I kinda <3 tea too.

    Here's what I think of your precious tea!

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    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    I also wonder what it says about our society that we worship these cartoonish portrayals of machismo.

    It's camp. A loving parody of traditional gender roles. We recognize it's silly, but a small part of us wishes we could be that guy or be with that guy (or both!).

    Psh. I wish I could be in that guy. :winky:

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    Oh, nothing like a mug of tea to refresh.

    ...I'm sorry Mori.

    I kinda <3 tea too.

    Here's what I think of your precious tea!

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    nooooooooooo : (

    <3<3<3

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    it's camp?

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    GalahadGalahad Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Whelp my blot is in the darkroom developing.

    Coffee now.

    Time to find a dark corner and WORRY.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    I also wonder what it says about our society that we worship these cartoonish portrayals of machismo.

    It's camp. A loving parody of traditional gender roles. We recognize it's silly, but a small part of us wishes we could be that guy or be with that guy (or both!).

    Yes, camp would be the perfect word to describe it.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.

    100%. Camp is a form of humor I highly appreciate, and I'm very glad Old Spice has been very successful with it.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.

    It's better than irony anyway.

    Well, camp is slightly ironic but it's slightly sincere.

    The core value behind camp (or at least one of the core values, in a queer studies sense) is that the adoption of a traditional gender role is okay as long as it is freely chosen, rather than forced upon us. By showing this gender role in a humorous light, it loses it's coercive power (I couldn't think of a better term than 'coercive,' sorry) but it's not rejected entirely... because rejecting it entirely runs the risk of pressuring people to adopt equal but opposite roles.

    In other words, don't take things too seriously. That's all.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm playing on my laptop infront of me and posting from my work PC. The mice are starting to confuse me.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm playing on my laptop infront of me and posting from my work PC. The mice are starting to confuse me.

    Are you tripping balls or did I read that wrong?

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The old spice guy is awesome. I will take no lip otherwise! I actually laugh at his commercials. Though fuck old spice, stuff smells like an old man.

    Also Bruce Campbell is awesome. Even his name has camp in it! Huzzah!

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q84UqsRcf0

    So I guess this came out. Anyone try it?

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.

    But it leads to the path of liking things ironically.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Chuck Norris, Old Spice guy, Bruce Campbell, the Most Interesting Man in the World, etc. are evidence that mainstream culture has appropriated camp as a cultural value. This is a good thing, IMO.

    It's better than irony anyway.

    Well, camp is slightly ironic but it's slightly sincere.

    The core value behind camp (or at least one of the core values, in a queer studies sense) is that the adoption of a traditional gender role is okay as long as it is freely chosen, rather than forced upon us. By showing this gender role in a humorous light, it loses it's coercive power (I couldn't think of a better term than 'coercive,' sorry) but it's not rejected entirely... because rejecting it entirely runs the risk of pressuring people to adopt equal but opposite roles.

    In other words, don't take things too seriously. That's all.

    Yeah, I can see that.

    I'm in an odd mood. Twenty minutes ago I was linking clips of it to my girlfriend. Now it irritates me.

    I need a nap.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    I'm playing on my laptop infront of me and posting from my work PC. The mice are starting to confuse me.

    Are you tripping balls or did I read that wrong?

    You did both.

    The work PC's monitor is higher than my laptop.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.

    But it leads to the path of liking things ironically.

    Wrong, it's the medium, it's ironically liking things gone right.

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    edited July 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.

    Me too.

    PantsB: Or liking things skeptically. When you like something ironically, that smacks of dishonesty. How can you like something but not really like it? I admit that I wish I could swan dive onto a motorcycle in a hot tub. I'd also let that man bone the hell out of me. But I don't expect either one.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    I think camp is the ultimate attitude. Appreciating something for what it is while simultaneously appreciating how ridiculous or hilarious it is. It humbles the subject while opening it up for sincere enjoyment.

    But it leads to the path of liking things ironically.

    Which is dumb as shit.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Elendil wrote: »
    the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch

    See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    You can't really like a thing ironically, but you can like a thing that is highly exaggerated and serves as an ironic presentation of something. Like Old Spice and manliness.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Bah, I have to work late today.

    How is it that my coworkers and friends have all the time in the world but I'm constantly scrambling just to stay afloat?

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch

    See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.

    How is that confusing? Boners are a male sex trait.

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    thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch

    See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.

    How is that confusing? Boners are a male sex trait.

    yes, but elendil may or may not be a girl. or is it clever?

    maybe s/he likes classical music?

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    Bah, I have to work late today.

    How is it that my coworkers and friends have all the time in the world but I'm constantly scrambling just to stay afloat?

    They're not tied up in the basement.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch

    See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.

    How is that confusing? Boners are a male sex trait.

    yes, but elendil may or may not be a girl. or is it clever?

    maybe s/he likes classical music?

    Are there gender clues I'm missing? If Elendil is trans then I apologize and will call her her, but if not then I would call a penis a strong indicator of being a dude.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I have no corporeal form

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Woooo registered for my classes for next year, what a weight off my shoulders

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    thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    the only thing camp about those commercials is the tent they make me pitch

    See this is why people get confused on what sex you are.

    How is that confusing? Boners are a male sex trait.

    yes, but elendil may or may not be a girl. or is it clever?

    maybe s/he likes classical music?

    Are there gender clues I'm missing? If Elendil is trans then I apologize and will call her her, but if not then I would call a penis a strong indicator of being a dude.

    or old spice makes heirm want to go camping. NO ONE KNOWS

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Elendil has been stated as being female. But gives off clues for being male. So it gets confusing.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BONERS! HOW DO THEY WORK?!

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    thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Elendil has been stated as being female. But gives off clues for being male. So it gets confusing.

    i thought that was elldren?

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    #someshit
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