Basically, Will, you are acting as the equivalent of the petit-bourgeois in the birth of modernism and realism in France. Back then, you always had to paint allegorically if you wanted to portray real life. But then the modernists started painting everyday scenes of real life, because it matched their socialist and/or modernist viewpoint. And many said "oh dear heavens! look at this rubbish!"
Now you can say "yes, but that was great art, and this is not!"
but that has been happening every single generation
do you really think that this is somehow the last art generation, like some raving apocalyptic, or do you think that you are merely on the conservative, dying, destructive side of history?
this is a false dilemma
especially because most "movements" in art aren't "progression" so much as bullshit dead-ends.
but you know every scrub with a brush or synth thinks he's the next picasso or stravinsky and takes the fact that everyone outside of his direct social circle thinks that everything he does sucks as validation!
because they spat on van gogh too!
Can you name anything composed in like the last 30 years, honestly, without googling?
Or perhaps a piece of art beyond some tabloid-fodder like "piss christ?"
the "Doctor Lakra" stuff i saw on thursday at the ICA
i don't remember the dude who did the little clothes
Saw the shepard fairey exhibit there last year
and uh composers i guess i know philip glass and john cage. i'm not really sure when their "era" was supposed to be.
oh man so i open the thread on door-step proselytizing expecting a lively debate on jehovah's witnesses and shit
and instead i find a dude talking about a story of people basically burning crosses on someone's lawn
as if the two things were equivalent
fuckin' internet, man, shit is amazing
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edited August 2010
Gonna give you my average Bills just so you guys will stop giving me the stank eye
House: $1300
Car: $525 (we have ONE car that we have to depend on for a lot miles, so. Give me a break here. It's a Ford Edge Btw. Judge me how you will)
Water: $80 ($30 of this are "Katrina Fees". No. Nobody knows what that is.
Power: $200 (And I live in a super energy efficient house and keep vents closed doors closed etc. I am actually pretty green)
Cellphones: $130 (no home phones.)
Gas: $200
Cable/Internet: $150 (No premium channels. CableOne sucks.)
Groceries: Lets say $1000 for a month.
So yeah that would be all my paycheck. No room for entertainment. I'd have to cut off netflix/WoW.
I want to live in the bay area and get a computer engineering job. That would be amazing.
But I would also love to live in some forest where the sky is pitch black.
I wish teleporters existed so I could walk up some stairs in my bay area apartment and arrive in a secluded cabin on a hill with a forest.
You know that there are hills in forests with cabins like 35 minutes north of SF right?
Yeah I know, I've been looking into it a lot, but I want to live in both at the same time and I'm not someone who is receptive towards buying a second home.
Also if I lived in SF I wouldn't want a car so it would be more difficult to leave the city. I dunno, maybe live halfway between the two areas.
Preacher did you like The Expendables? I did not like The Expendables.
I enjoyed the expendables, but I also like Cobra and the like.
Yeah see I like the classics and 80's action movies and all that but this movie seemed more of the same, with a weak plot and characters and too much talky-talky.
oh man so i open the thread on door-step proselytizing expecting a lively debate on jehovah's witnesses and shit
and instead i find a dude talking about a story of people basically burning crosses on someone's lawn
as if the two things were equivalent
fuckin' internet, man, shit is amazing
I always thought people burned crosses on your lawn to help the grass. Like "hmm fire helps things grow and we have this cross thats itching to be burned..."
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I want to live in the bay area and get a computer engineering job. That would be amazing.
But I would also love to live in some forest where the sky is pitch black.
I wish teleporters existed so I could walk up some stairs in my bay area apartment and arrive in a secluded cabin on a hill with a forest.
You know that there are hills in forests with cabins like 35 minutes north of SF right?
Yeah I know, I've been looking into it a lot, but I want to live in both at the same time and I'm not someone who is receptive towards buying a second home.
Also if I lived in SF I wouldn't want a car so it would be more difficult to leave the city. I dunno, maybe live halfway between the two areas.
i-Go or zipcar?
Zipcar is a possibility but last time I looked into that they ding you pretty hard for multiple days.
So Thomas Bodström, ex-minister of justice in the previous Social Democrat administration, was on radio defending his demands for "voluntary" drug tests in schools. He was then challenged to a drug test - they had a nurse ready to administer it in the studio.
He first accepted. Then he declined when he was told which drugs they'd test for.
However! A while back, he sold a lock of his hair for 10000 SEK for some charity thingie. The Pirate Bureau won that auction.
They're now offering him a voluntary drug test, or they'll send that hair for analysis.
Preacher did you like The Expendables? I did not like The Expendables.
I enjoyed the expendables, but I also like Cobra and the like.
Yeah see I like the classics and 80's action movies and all that but this movie seemed more of the same, with a weak plot and characters and too much talky-talky.
Austin fight, shotgun hallway, jason statham not bugging me like the whole time, made up for talking too much.
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Gonna give you my average Bills just so you guys will stop giving me the stank eye
House: $1300
Car: $525 (we have ONE car that we have to depend on for a lot miles, so. Give me a break here. It's a Ford Edge Btw. Judge me how you will)
Water: $80 ($30 of this are "Katrina Fees". No. Nobody knows what that is.
Power: $200 (And I live in a super energy efficient house and keep vents closed doors closed etc. I am actually pretty green)
Cellphones: $130 (no home phones.)
Gas: $200
Cable/Internet: $150 (No premium channels. CableOne sucks.)
Groceries: Lets say $1000 for a month.
So yeah that would be all my paycheck. No room for entertainment. I'd have to cut off netflix/WoW.
Basically, Will, you are acting as the equivalent of the petit-bourgeois in the birth of modernism and realism in France. Back then, you always had to paint allegorically if you wanted to portray real life. But then the modernists started painting everyday scenes of real life, because it matched their socialist and/or modernist viewpoint. And many said "oh dear heavens! look at this rubbish!"
Now you can say "yes, but that was great art, and this is not!"
but that has been happening every single generation
do you really think that this is somehow the last art generation, like some raving apocalyptic, or do you think that you are merely on the conservative, dying, destructive side of history?
this is a false dilemma
especially because most "movements" in art aren't "progression" so much as bullshit dead-ends.
but you know every scrub with a brush or synth thinks he's the next picasso or stravinsky and takes the fact that everyone outside of his direct social circle thinks that everything he does sucks as validation!
because they spat on van gogh too!
Can you name anything composed in like the last 30 years, honestly, without googling?
Or perhaps a piece of art beyond some tabloid-fodder like "piss christ?"
the "Doctor Lakra" stuff i saw on thursday at the ICA
i don't remember the dude who did the little clothes
Saw the shepard fairey exhibit there last year
and uh composers i guess i know philip glass and john cage. i'm not really sure when their "era" was supposed to be.
Do you think that I would be misrepresenting you if I said you were ignorant of the the music and artworld post WWII?
Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
edited August 2010
I read somewhere that Maxfield Parrish was so popular and influential that over half the houses in America had one of his prints or lithographs in it. It's kind of hard to imagine the visual arts playing an active and voluntary role in so many people's lives in that way.
I mean I ain't tryin to hate on you ludious, but you definately said you made over 100K together, and that you would lose everything if you didn't make 100k, but unless there are more fees I just don't see it
I want to live in the bay area and get a computer engineering job. That would be amazing.
But I would also love to live in some forest where the sky is pitch black.
I wish teleporters existed so I could walk up some stairs in my bay area apartment and arrive in a secluded cabin on a hill with a forest.
You know that there are hills in forests with cabins like 35 minutes north of SF right?
Yeah I know, I've been looking into it a lot, but I want to live in both at the same time and I'm not someone who is receptive towards buying a second home.
Also if I lived in SF I wouldn't want a car so it would be more difficult to leave the city. I dunno, maybe live halfway between the two areas.
i-Go or zipcar?
Zipcar is a possibility but last time I looked into that they ding you pretty hard for multiple days.
Well if you're going for a weekend just rent a car from Hertz or something.
so can we consider [chat] more or less saved, or is the vulture shadow of Tube still circling? have we shaped up?
I feel that we have shaped up.
they say i'm really sexy
the boys they wanna sex me
they always standin next to me
tryna feel my hump, hump
lookin at my lump, lump
you can look but you can't touch it
if you touch it i'ma start some drama
you don't want no drama
no no drama, no no no no drama
so don't pull on my hand boy
you ain't my man boy
i'm just tryna [chat] boy
and move my hump
Gonna give you my average Bills just so you guys will stop giving me the stank eye
House: $1300
Car: $525 (we have ONE car that we have to depend on for a lot miles, so. Give me a break here. It's a Ford Edge Btw. Judge me how you will)
Water: $80 ($30 of this are "Katrina Fees". No. Nobody knows what that is.
Power: $200 (And I live in a super energy efficient house and keep vents closed doors closed etc. I am actually pretty green)
Cellphones: $130 (no home phones.)
Gas: $200
Cable/Internet: $150 (No premium channels. CableOne sucks.)
Groceries: Lets say $1000 for a month.
So yeah that would be all my paycheck. No room for entertainment. I'd have to cut off netflix/WoW.
you realize all that only comes to 43k right?
my paycheck after taxes is all that matters to reality though. and we're talking if my wife lost her job.
oh man so i open the thread on door-step proselytizing expecting a lively debate on jehovah's witnesses and shit
and instead i find a dude talking about a story of people basically burning crosses on someone's lawn
as if the two things were equivalent
fuckin' internet, man, shit is amazing
I always thought people burned crosses on your lawn to help the grass. Like "hmm fire helps things grow and we have this cross thats itching to be burned..."
How else am I supposed to get rid of my extra crosses? No one wants them, the dump gets mad when I drop them off... all that's left is to burn them! And my asshole neighbors have started calling the fire department on me, so I have to take them somewhere else.
So a burned a cross on your lawn. GET OVER IT! It's my plight and I'd appreciate a little understanding, people.
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I want to live in the bay area and get a computer engineering job. That would be amazing.
But I would also love to live in some forest where the sky is pitch black.
I wish teleporters existed so I could walk up some stairs in my bay area apartment and arrive in a secluded cabin on a hill with a forest.
You know that there are hills in forests with cabins like 35 minutes north of SF right?
Yeah I know, I've been looking into it a lot, but I want to live in both at the same time and I'm not someone who is receptive towards buying a second home.
Also if I lived in SF I wouldn't want a car so it would be more difficult to leave the city. I dunno, maybe live halfway between the two areas.
i-Go or zipcar?
Zipcar is a possibility but last time I looked into that they ding you pretty hard for multiple days.
Well if you're going for a weekend just rent a car from Hertz or something.
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why do you cost all my dollars
farmers market, dollar popcorn/soda at the movie theater, buy one get one half off sushi orders at the best sushi place in charleston
me. I did.
On the black screen
I feel that we have shaped up.
never
the "Doctor Lakra" stuff i saw on thursday at the ICA
i don't remember the dude who did the little clothes
Saw the shepard fairey exhibit there last year
and uh composers i guess i know philip glass and john cage. i'm not really sure when their "era" was supposed to be.
and instead i find a dude talking about a story of people basically burning crosses on someone's lawn
as if the two things were equivalent
fuckin' internet, man, shit is amazing
House: $1300
Car: $525 (we have ONE car that we have to depend on for a lot miles, so. Give me a break here. It's a Ford Edge Btw. Judge me how you will)
Water: $80 ($30 of this are "Katrina Fees". No. Nobody knows what that is.
Power: $200 (And I live in a super energy efficient house and keep vents closed doors closed etc. I am actually pretty green)
Cellphones: $130 (no home phones.)
Gas: $200
Cable/Internet: $150 (No premium channels. CableOne sucks.)
Groceries: Lets say $1000 for a month.
So yeah that would be all my paycheck. No room for entertainment. I'd have to cut off netflix/WoW.
i-Go or zipcar?
Sometimes you have to.
He just lets them go on massive beaches.
If you have no idea what they are they must be the most bizarre things to encounter.
All striding by like they have somewhere to be.
Yeah see I like the classics and 80's action movies and all that but this movie seemed more of the same, with a weak plot and characters and too much talky-talky.
I always thought people burned crosses on your lawn to help the grass. Like "hmm fire helps things grow and we have this cross thats itching to be burned..."
pleasepaypreacher.net
at some point a guy is going to get high as shit on those beaches, see one of those things approaching him and scream himself to death
Way too north and east. Anything east of Sonoma or north of Mendocino that isn't Tahoe is a no go.
Congress has been shafting the Smithsonians with the trust fund. Surprise surprise.
Zipcar is a possibility but last time I looked into that they ding you pretty hard for multiple days.
So Thomas Bodström, ex-minister of justice in the previous Social Democrat administration, was on radio defending his demands for "voluntary" drug tests in schools. He was then challenged to a drug test - they had a nurse ready to administer it in the studio.
He first accepted. Then he declined when he was told which drugs they'd test for.
However! A while back, he sold a lock of his hair for 10000 SEK for some charity thingie. The Pirate Bureau won that auction.
They're now offering him a voluntary drug test, or they'll send that hair for analysis.
Austin fight, shotgun hallway, jason statham not bugging me like the whole time, made up for talking too much.
pleasepaypreacher.net
you realize all that only comes to 43k right?
"Drinking in Moderation."
"How to live on your own without government assistance."
"Talking clearly and you."
pleasepaypreacher.net
jesus fuck ludious
what's the cost of a dozen eggs there
we spend about half that and we own two cats!
everything in america is awful, what a shock
Do you think that I would be misrepresenting you if I said you were ignorant of the the music and artworld post WWII?
food costs are ridiculously high here pony
and probably worse in the katrina-affected zone
Dude the 3 months after I landed my job were like being on the price is right and winning all the time. Except with spending money too.
And then I bought all the stuff I wanted and now I feel empty!
OK, not really. But it's all upgrades now or something.
I'm on about $200 for one guy and a cat.
Well if you're going for a weekend just rent a car from Hertz or something.
they say i'm really sexy
the boys they wanna sex me
they always standin next to me
tryna feel my hump, hump
lookin at my lump, lump
you can look but you can't touch it
if you touch it i'ma start some drama
you don't want no drama
no no drama, no no no no drama
so don't pull on my hand boy
you ain't my man boy
i'm just tryna [chat] boy
and move my hump
That's what ordinary rental companies are for.
I can get a car from Enterprise for like £18 per day. That drops to about £12 at the weekend.
god damn
that is distorting your perspective big time son
my paycheck after taxes is all that matters to reality though. and we're talking if my wife lost her job.
and than saying all catholics are evil pieces of shit
How else am I supposed to get rid of my extra crosses? No one wants them, the dump gets mad when I drop them off... all that's left is to burn them! And my asshole neighbors have started calling the fire department on me, so I have to take them somewhere else.
So a burned a cross on your lawn. GET OVER IT! It's my plight and I'd appreciate a little understanding, people.
They should just build a subway up there.
$400 for two people here.