So I'm not usually too big on JRPGs, but I've been rocking out the PS2 I bought last summer a whole bunch. I beat FFX when I was 11, and going back and playing it now that I'm 20 has been rad, but I know what I'm doin' and I can recall most of the story.
So today I popped in FFXII, and it's pretty dadgum cool. Only problem is, I have no idea what to do with Vaan on the license grid and the whole system is unfamiliar to me.
Next up is Kingdom Hearts, which is really hard because you run around a-la-plaformers but it seems like a regular RPG to me.
Not worth the $30. The slowdown in chrono trigger is killer. Also, while I love a bunch of ps2 RPGs, my biggest love will always be ps1 jrpgs, when I had hours to play and and let them blow my mind
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edited October 2010
Don't get Chrono Cross. It's convoluted and boring.
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edited October 2010
Fandy, you can run Vaan anyway you want. Most people have him rolling short swords and shields, but I said fuck that and gave him heavy weapons/mega-black magick.
the easiest way to win XII is to abuse overdrives or whatever the hell they call them
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edited October 2010
I want to make Vaan a time thief. I think I'm gonna go with green magic, sword/shield, and maybe daggers? I'll load fran up with ballin' nukes and I guess balthier can keep shooting folks.
PS i just found a gambit what do I do to make it possible to activate
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edited October 2010
My problem with XII:
"Oh shit this game is fucking awesome time to go level... Oh God I love the grind its so awesome, lets go kill some marks... damn couldn't kill that one time to grind more... Oh God this is so fun... maybe I should go do some story, Oh shit where am I supposed to go? Oh shit what's the plot? I don't understand what's going on, time to go level and kill more marks...."
generally I loved the gameplay and couldn't stand/had no drive to finish the plot
I want to make Vaan a time thief. I think I'm gonna go with green magic, sword/shield, and maybe daggers? I'll load fran up with ballin' nukes and I guess balthier can keep shooting folks.
PS i just found a gambit what do I do to make it possible to activate
Give Balthier more than just guns. Make sure that dude has some magicks. The bigger the better. Guns are really underpowered and slow late in the game. I micromanage, so I often have Baltheir shooting mans, casting healing magicks on mans, or casting casting Scathe.
Nifty trick: Equip three reflect armors, caste an area magic at YOUR party, watch it get cast a bajillion times and do a fuckton of damage to your enemy. Especially useful on enemies that negate physical attacks.
Gambits are activated from the menu screen. Select a character you want to set a gambit on, find the action you want that character to do, and then selected a condition for that action. It's a condition.
If x, then y.
You can enable gambits from the battle menu by just clicking Gambits to ON.
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Yeah, Balthier needs something other then first aid, which always misses
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Seriously, load him up with healing white magick. If my Balthier didn't have Curaja, I'd be so fucked.
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My one problem with the license system is that it's pretty hard to determine what you want if you don't have the spells/items already
You can actually get the FF4+Chrono Trigger for $12 after shipping on the page you linked.
Though I find the GBA FF4 and the DS Chrono Trigger to be the best versions of those. And as long as you have a DS/DSLite, you can have both carts in at once! The DS FF4 is really good, but they added in a lot of BS random difficulty.
Oh man, I forgot about the Shadow Hearts games. Shadow Hearts: From the New World might be the single craziest game I've ever played (not named God Hand).
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My one problem with the license system is that it's pretty hard to determine what you want if you don't have the spells/items already
Items, yes. Spells, no.
Weapons and armor are pretty straightforward. The higher the level, the better the weapons. Accessories don't really work the same way, so I didn't really bother with them outside the Bubble Belt.
Spells are pretty easy. Only a few spells are new/foreign. Scathe, for instance, is something I hadn't seen before. It's basically just an AoE version of Flare. If you have questions about something, definitely just look it up.
I don't get why Nocturne is so adored, beloved and expensive. The plot has an interesting twist in the first few minutes of the game but doesn't really do anything else from there, and the gameplay, while not standard, was absolutely nothing to write home about.
I'm not sure if it counts as "last gen", but I started playing Zork recently. I'm pretty late to the party I guess. The trilogy was free to download, though now that I actually look at the site, it's not officially Infocom, so I won't link it just in case.
I am enjoying it more than FF8 though.
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God the Shadow Hearts games were great
If you want to play them you really need to start from the first, the mechanics are so dated that you'll hate playing it after going through 2 or 3
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I don't get why Nocturne is so adored, beloved and expensive. The plot has an interesting twist in the first few minutes of the game but doesn't really do anything else from there, and the gameplay, while not standard, was absolutely nothing to write home about.
I rented Chrono Cross once, dunno what I was expecting but about ten hours in when absolutely nothing had been said or done which related it back to Chrono Trigger I sort of lost interest and popped FF7 back in to die to emerald weapon again.
I don't get why Nocturne is so adored, beloved and expensive. The plot has an interesting twist in the first few minutes of the game but doesn't really do anything else from there, and the gameplay, while not standard, was absolutely nothing to write home about.
The more you read into Nocturne's plot, the more you get from it. Very little is spoon-fed to the player, and that's what I like about it. There's certainly no setting quite like the Vortex World, either.
Press Turn was a great combat system, and fusion, well, love or hate. :P If you love it, get ready to lose hours fusing and refusing for the perfect skill set.
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Is is beyond fucking belief worth that price.
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I also want to get chrono cross at some point, which is equally cheap and on amazon.
Also why do I do with fran? Should I give her more nukes or more healy spells?
Fran will fuck dudes up at a range. MORE NUKES.
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PS i just found a gambit what do I do to make it possible to activate
"Oh shit this game is fucking awesome time to go level... Oh God I love the grind its so awesome, lets go kill some marks... damn couldn't kill that one time to grind more... Oh God this is so fun... maybe I should go do some story, Oh shit where am I supposed to go? Oh shit what's the plot? I don't understand what's going on, time to go level and kill more marks...."
generally I loved the gameplay and couldn't stand/had no drive to finish the plot
Give Balthier more than just guns. Make sure that dude has some magicks. The bigger the better. Guns are really underpowered and slow late in the game. I micromanage, so I often have Baltheir shooting mans, casting healing magicks on mans, or casting casting Scathe.
Nifty trick: Equip three reflect armors, caste an area magic at YOUR party, watch it get cast a bajillion times and do a fuckton of damage to your enemy. Especially useful on enemies that negate physical attacks.
Gambits are activated from the menu screen. Select a character you want to set a gambit on, find the action you want that character to do, and then selected a condition for that action. It's a condition.
If x, then y.
You can enable gambits from the battle menu by just clicking Gambits to ON.
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This guy doesn't have a clue.
Chrono Cross does have some plot issues but the gameplay is fun as hell. Plus also the music.
And yeah don't buy the Anthologies. As has been mentioned already, the Chrono Trigger port is seriously god-awful.
persona 4
Dark cloud 2
Rogue galaxy
Valkyrie profile 2
Odin sphere
Shadow hearts covenant
Steambot chronicles
That should tide you over for like a year
Though I find the GBA FF4 and the DS Chrono Trigger to be the best versions of those. And as long as you have a DS/DSLite, you can have both carts in at once! The DS FF4 is really good, but they added in a lot of BS random difficulty.
Yes, the music in Chrono Cross was pretty good. Especially that opening song. And the game play is good.
But seriously? "Some plot issues?" I don't want to get into spoiler territory but
If you're going to play it, just pretend like it's like...a "spiritual successor" to Chrono Trigger or something. Or that it's not related at all.
Cilla's right. It's definitely worth a play through for the music alone, though.
Items, yes. Spells, no.
Weapons and armor are pretty straightforward. The higher the level, the better the weapons. Accessories don't really work the same way, so I didn't really bother with them outside the Bubble Belt.
Spells are pretty easy. Only a few spells are new/foreign. Scathe, for instance, is something I hadn't seen before. It's basically just an AoE version of Flare. If you have questions about something, definitely just look it up.
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Well, it's a start anyway.
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man now I want to play it again
I am enjoying it more than FF8 though.
If you want to play them you really need to start from the first, the mechanics are so dated that you'll hate playing it after going through 2 or 3
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emerald and ruby were easy
man I loved exploiting the hell out of the materia system.
The more you read into Nocturne's plot, the more you get from it. Very little is spoon-fed to the player, and that's what I like about it. There's certainly no setting quite like the Vortex World, either.
Press Turn was a great combat system, and fusion, well, love or hate. :P If you love it, get ready to lose hours fusing and refusing for the perfect skill set.
I sunk a lot of time into getting every single Enemy Skill for the Enemy Skill materia. 'Bad Breath' was a complete bitch. Goddamn Marlboros.
But of course they're pissed. The world just ended. Everyone they knew is dead.
Yeah I was too young to really get into exploiting the system so I would just get my ass kicked. All I cared about was getting a cool chocobo.