I'm having this issue living in London and it seems my accent is changing slowly - although to what depends on the listener. So for example today I went to an Australian cafe and was surrounded by Aussies for an hour, which seemed to influence my accent so when I was paying the bill the Aussie waitress thought I was Australian (huge faux pas in English speaking circles!). Whereas a month or so ago I was at a BBQ with lots of English people I didn't know and a lot of them mistook me for English. Then on the phone I often get asked if I'm South African.
To me it sounds like I'm still speaking NZ English.
I have a Kiwi friend back home who within 5 minutes of being around Americans picks up this weird pseudo American accent. It is very odd but he cannot help himself
I've always had a slightly odd accent, so I was able to faintly detect New Zealand accents even when I was living in New Zealand. But New Zealanders would occasionally mistake me for English, and when I came to live in London English people often mistook me for South African. Now nobody can place me at all.
Edit: Plus I mimic whoever I'm speaking with, which can be embarrassing.
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I have a friend from Masterton (NZ) - small rural town for those of you not from NZ who can perfectly mimic a South African accent for as long as he wants - so well that South Africans cannot tell the difference. This is more funny because he is a 6ft tall Chinese guy and I understand they are not common in SA.
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As atrocious as that was Japan, I don't think that's desu speak. At least she's speaking in complete sentences in both languages separately, not some abomination of "OMG that's so kawaaiiiiii. You are baka desu."
That's a fair point. I suppose if anything it's commendable she put in the effort to be able to construct sentences, as opposed to just picking up random bits of vocabulary.
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As atrocious as that was Japan, I don't think that's desu speak. At least she's speaking in complete sentences in both languages separately, not some abomination of "OMG that's so kawaaiiiiii. You are baka desu."
That's a fair point. I suppose if anything it's commendable she put in the effort to be able to construct sentences, as opposed to just picking up random bits of vocabulary.
The worst is when they get the vocabulary but use it in places that would be grammatically incorrect in both languages, like using a noun as an adjective.
Or append when it's unnecessary, as in affixing desu after an English sentence.
"Stupid shit weeaboos say" is not a regional accent. It's not anything.
Depends how you define "regional".
It's perfectly possible for teenagers to have spent massive amounts of time communicating primarily with a social group that is not necessarily nearby in the geographical sense, and consuming media that doesn't necessarily reflect the accents and modes of speech of people in their immediate geographical area.
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Desu speak is a total put-on though, for everyone involved. If you heard "such a kawaii day!", then ran up and decked that person right in the face, that goofy manner of speaking would drop INSTANTLY.
An actual accent would not.
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Desu speak is a total put-on though, for everyone involved. If you heard "such a kawaii day!", then ran up and decked that person right in the face, that goofy manner of speaking would drop INSTANTLY.
An actual accent would not.
That would be the most glorious overreaction ever. I'd probably be unable to stop laughing.
"Stupid shit weeaboos say" is not a regional accent. It's not anything.
Depends how you define "regional".
It's perfectly possible for teenagers to have spent massive amounts of time communicating primarily with a social group that is not necessarily nearby in the geographical sense, and consuming media that doesn't necessarily reflect the accents and modes of speech of people in their immediate geographical area.
The way those kids talk isn't anything more linguistically noteworthy than the way sports fans communicate with one another.
"Stupid shit weeaboos say" is not a regional accent. It's not anything.
Depends how you define "regional".
It's perfectly possible for teenagers to have spent massive amounts of time communicating primarily with a social group that is not necessarily nearby in the geographical sense, and consuming media that doesn't necessarily reflect the accents and modes of speech of people in their immediate geographical area.
The way those kids talk isn't anything more linguistically noteworthy than the way sports fans communicate with one another.
You know what I hate about Dragon Age...I can't take the interesting folks with me in my party, because then we're failing at all the fights. Like: I'm travelling to a place where I expect to find an item Sten lost, so I want him with me, but he's a weakling compared to my character and he keeps dying on me when I'm not looking. I would have taken Alistair with me instead, but he's no where near as interesting as Sten and he hasn't lost any items as of late.
Same with the bard girl with the lisp, I dislike her fake lisp and accent, but she's my best lockpick and her ranged attacks are pretty useful.
the trick is to knock the difficulty all the way down and play it as an excuse to dress up as a tiny elven lady with a giant war hammer
"Stupid shit weeaboos say" is not a regional accent. It's not anything.
Depends how you define "regional".
It's perfectly possible for teenagers to have spent massive amounts of time communicating primarily with a social group that is not necessarily nearby in the geographical sense, and consuming media that doesn't necessarily reflect the accents and modes of speech of people in their immediate geographical area.
The way those kids talk isn't anything more linguistically noteworthy than the way sports fans communicate with one another.
If you say so. I'm just pointing out that there are influences on accent and mode of speech that can be just as, if not more significant than location.
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I've picked up words from the internet, mainly "rude titties", "hella" and "broseph"
"Stupid shit weeaboos say" is not a regional accent. It's not anything.
Depends how you define "regional".
It's perfectly possible for teenagers to have spent massive amounts of time communicating primarily with a social group that is not necessarily nearby in the geographical sense, and consuming media that doesn't necessarily reflect the accents and modes of speech of people in their immediate geographical area.
The way those kids talk isn't anything more linguistically noteworthy than the way sports fans communicate with one another.
If you say so. I'm just pointing out that there are influences on accent and mode of speech that can be just as, if not more significant than location.
Can you cite some of them?
Because the anime-fan subculture example is a pretty bad one, and as DK noted: It's forced, not genuine.
You know what I hate about Dragon Age...I can't take the interesting folks with me in my party, because then we're failing at all the fights. Like: I'm travelling to a place where I expect to find an item Sten lost, so I want him with me, but he's a weakling compared to my character and he keeps dying on me when I'm not looking. I would have taken Alistair with me instead, but he's no where near as interesting as Sten and he hasn't lost any items as of late.
Same with the bard girl with the lisp, I dislike her fake lisp and accent, but she's my best lockpick and her ranged attacks are pretty useful.
the trick is to knock the difficulty all the way down and play it as an excuse to dress up as a tiny elven lady with a giant war hammer
You know what I hate about Dragon Age...I can't take the interesting folks with me in my party, because then we're failing at all the fights. Like: I'm travelling to a place where I expect to find an item Sten lost, so I want him with me, but he's a weakling compared to my character and he keeps dying on me when I'm not looking. I would have taken Alistair with me instead, but he's no where near as interesting as Sten and he hasn't lost any items as of late.
Same with the bard girl with the lisp, I dislike her fake lisp and accent, but she's my best lockpick and her ranged attacks are pretty useful.
the trick is to knock the difficulty all the way down and play it as an excuse to dress up as a tiny elven lady with a giant war hammer
the trick is to knock the difficulty all the way down and play it as an excuse to dress up as a tiny elven lady with a giant war hammer
and then kiss alistair everywhere
I find it funny, nearly every guy in Dragon Age is a medieval wanker who is either going all THOU SHALST KILLETH DRAGONS YONDER! or are trying to beat up and/or rape women. And then there's Alistair, the ultimate 21st century metroman.
And I'm playing as a dwarf. Morrigan does not mind.
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Cheese is okay I guess.
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Wow, so desu-speak is a thing. Do you guys actually know anyone who does this in real life? Is it pretty common in the US, like say Goths and such?
I don't. But then again, if you take me, my girlfriend, and my three best friends, my girlfriend's the only one who hasn't actually studied Japanese. And two of my best friends and I have studied for years. We all (except girlfriend) grew up on the California coast. So I'm probably not a representative sample of the US.
You know what I hate about Dragon Age...I can't take the interesting folks with me in my party, because then we're failing at all the fights. Like: I'm travelling to a place where I expect to find an item Sten lost, so I want him with me, but he's a weakling compared to my character and he keeps dying on me when I'm not looking. I would have taken Alistair with me instead, but he's no where near as interesting as Sten and he hasn't lost any items as of late.
Same with the bard girl with the lisp, I dislike her fake lisp and accent, but she's my best lockpick and her ranged attacks are pretty useful.
the trick is to knock the difficulty all the way down and play it as an excuse to dress up as a tiny elven lady with a giant war hammer
and then kiss alistair everywhere
so gay
That's not gay at all.
Now when my tall, rangy, scruff-bearded warrior kisses Alistair everywhere that is in fact pretty gay.
You know what I hate about Dragon Age...I can't take the interesting folks with me in my party, because then we're failing at all the fights. Like: I'm travelling to a place where I expect to find an item Sten lost, so I want him with me, but he's a weakling compared to my character and he keeps dying on me when I'm not looking. I would have taken Alistair with me instead, but he's no where near as interesting as Sten and he hasn't lost any items as of late.
Same with the bard girl with the lisp, I dislike her fake lisp and accent, but she's my best lockpick and her ranged attacks are pretty useful.
her damage output was always pitiful, I could never get it above single digit percents
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Moving between lots of areas with really strong accents as a kid and being really self-concious about sounding out of place, I really quickly filed all the regional features off my american accent.
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Actually, I just watched that video and I have no idea what she's talking about. Anyone care to elaborate, because I think I understand hipsters more than I understand her.
"Stupid shit weeaboos say" is not a regional accent. It's not anything.
Depends how you define "regional".
It's perfectly possible for teenagers to have spent massive amounts of time communicating primarily with a social group that is not necessarily nearby in the geographical sense, and consuming media that doesn't necessarily reflect the accents and modes of speech of people in their immediate geographical area.
The way those kids talk isn't anything more linguistically noteworthy than the way sports fans communicate with one another.
If you say so. I'm just pointing out that there are influences on accent and mode of speech that can be just as, if not more significant than location.
Can you cite some of them?
Because the anime-fan subculture example is a pretty bad one, and as DK noted: It's forced, not genuine.
I have known a lot of people a few years younger than me who grew up with cartoons from the US who use US words for things quite naturally, phrase sentences in ways that seem familiar from US TV shows and suchlike. The big example is a friend of mine who has always used sidewalk instead of pavement.
Wow, so desu-speak is a thing. Do you guys actually know anyone who does this in real life? Is it pretty common in the US, like say Goths and such?
I don't. But then again, if you take me, my girlfriend, and my three best friends, my girlfriend's the only one who hasn't actually studied Japanese. And two of my best friends and I have studied for years. We all (except girlfriend) grew up on the California coast. So I'm probably not a representative sample of the US.
Well, that is no bad thing I guess. I'm not sure how I'd cope with such friends, if I had them. Although I guess I was able to hang out with a few Goths for a couple of years without catching it, or freaking out - so maybe it would be ok
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Actually, I just watched that video and I have no idea what she's talking about. Anyone care to elaborate, because I think I understand hipsters more than I understand her.
turn the sound off
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Well, that is no bad thing I guess. I'm not sure how I'd cope with such friends, if I had them. Although I guess I was able to hang out with a few Goths for a couple of years without catching it, or freaking out - so maybe it would be ok
Honestly it's far worse if you actually speak Japanese. If you don't, you can dismiss it as "Oh, that's kinda weird."
If you do it often feels like you're listening to text speak. Except instead of misspelling everything, it's grammatically nonsensical.
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I have the Connecticut accent. Unlike our neighbors to the north and west, we understand that the letter R is generally something one should pronounce.
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Perfect spy?
I have a friend from Masterton (NZ) - small rural town for those of you not from NZ who can perfectly mimic a South African accent for as long as he wants - so well that South Africans cannot tell the difference. This is more funny because he is a 6ft tall Chinese guy and I understand they are not common in SA.
Certainly makes it easier to listen to her talk about whatever it is she's talking about.
That's a fair point. I suppose if anything it's commendable she put in the effort to be able to construct sentences, as opposed to just picking up random bits of vocabulary.
She was talking?
The worst is when they get the vocabulary but use it in places that would be grammatically incorrect in both languages, like using a noun as an adjective.
Or append when it's unnecessary, as in affixing desu after an English sentence.
Depends how you define "regional".
It's perfectly possible for teenagers to have spent massive amounts of time communicating primarily with a social group that is not necessarily nearby in the geographical sense, and consuming media that doesn't necessarily reflect the accents and modes of speech of people in their immediate geographical area.
An actual accent would not.
clearly you've never been to Weeaboo Dhabi
so wrong so wrong
like
Afterglow is the best album ever
so wronggggg
That would be the most glorious overreaction ever. I'd probably be unable to stop laughing.
The way those kids talk isn't anything more linguistically noteworthy than the way sports fans communicate with one another.
Fo sure, bro.
I was responding to the first post but I was too lazy to remove the other posts
and then kiss alistair everywhere
If you say so. I'm just pointing out that there are influences on accent and mode of speech that can be just as, if not more significant than location.
goddamn internet
Also - in that video are her eyes naturally like that or is it editing?
Can you cite some of them?
Because the anime-fan subculture example is a pretty bad one, and as DK noted: It's forced, not genuine.
so gay
And I'm playing as a dwarf. Morrigan does not mind.
I don't. But then again, if you take me, my girlfriend, and my three best friends, my girlfriend's the only one who hasn't actually studied Japanese. And two of my best friends and I have studied for years. We all (except girlfriend) grew up on the California coast. So I'm probably not a representative sample of the US.
That's not gay at all.
Now when my tall, rangy, scruff-bearded warrior kisses Alistair everywhere that is in fact pretty gay.
her damage output was always pitiful, I could never get it above single digit percents
Actually, I just watched that video and I have no idea what she's talking about. Anyone care to elaborate, because I think I understand hipsters more than I understand her.
I have known a lot of people a few years younger than me who grew up with cartoons from the US who use US words for things quite naturally, phrase sentences in ways that seem familiar from US TV shows and suchlike. The big example is a friend of mine who has always used sidewalk instead of pavement.
It baffles me that people never seem to get the "Applicable, Applicable, WTF" thing.
"I don't believe in magic. Not Dragons, not Unicorns, not Medicine."
If you start harping on me about not believing in Medicine. QQ
Get the equal love mod and Alistair will love your penis.
Well, that is no bad thing I guess. I'm not sure how I'd cope with such friends, if I had them. Although I guess I was able to hang out with a few Goths for a couple of years without catching it, or freaking out - so maybe it would be ok
I stopped trying to figure ity out
turn the sound off
Honestly it's far worse if you actually speak Japanese. If you don't, you can dismiss it as "Oh, that's kinda weird."
If you do it often feels like you're listening to text speak. Except instead of misspelling everything, it's grammatically nonsensical.