The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) recently ruled that ISPs have the right to charge Internet users with a metered fee for their bandwidth. This goes on top of the already-installed infrastructure that involves ridiculously low bandwidth caps (a middle-of-the-road cable connection today costs around $50 a month for a 40GB cap and $4.50 per extra gigabyte). Basically, very soon all Canadian posters may have to read SE++ on carrier pigeons.
Oh heavens to betsy 40 gigabytes a month whatever will we do without all of our 1080 porn
I pay $80 a month for 50 gig.
suck it up, cananda.
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You guys down south deal with some shit. I know video games are expensive, but $50/mo for 10gb?
That is insane.
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edited February 2011
It's more a sort of 'welcome to the club'-type thing.
Come, let us gather up some meats and cheeses, and bitterly complain about how things cost money. And sometimes they cost more than others!
My friend's sister is in town from the Falklands. Her husband works for their ISP. He told me what they were paying and how much they got and at what speeds they could get it and I think I actually recoiled in pain.
eh, canada will get over it. we've had caps in australia since dial-up modems and it's not that big a deal. there will be rip-off merchants just as there will be good deals to be found. it's the nature of competition - if you want it, you'll be able to get it; you just might have to pay more. or search longer.
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so what exactly is the news? Did they just make it legal to have metered internet or just make it legal to charge extra or what?
Cause I mean we've had both of those forever
Can't you just choose a ISP that slows your bitrate right down when you hit your cap like we can?
What happened here is that everyone started out charging extra for for extra bandwidth over your cap, then people started offering slowing it down and everybody jumped on that idea so the other ISPs were forced to follow suit.
You can basically only in the last year or so get unmetered internet and it costs maybe $100-200 a month.
I really need to know why things are like that in Aus/NZ and now Canada.
Someone help me to understand these things.
Fill me with all the knowledge you got, Big Boy.
the reason it's so bad in Australia, or at least the reason that we've been forced to swallow, is that the population per square mile is so low that providing infrastructure - cabling and the like - is much more expensive for every person who's actually paying for the service.
I mean it makes sense in Australia, and to a lesser extent, Canada. I think New Zealand just matches our model to be honest.
so what exactly is the news? Did they just make it legal to have metered internet or just make it legal to charge extra or what?
Cause I mean we've had both of those forever
Can't you just choose a ISP that slows your bitrate right down when you hit your cap like we can?
What happened here is that everyone started out charging extra for for extra bandwidth over your cap, then people started offering slowing it down and everybody jumped on that idea so the other ISPs were forced to follow suit.
You can basically only in the last year or so get unmetered internet and it costs maybe $100-200 a month.
The metered part is the new thing. We've had caps since the 90s. I'm pretty sure the slower internet past the cap is illegal (or at least it's just not going on).
The big problem with this is that, at least here, all internet access basically goes through a couple companies, Bell or Videotron. Smaller ISPs have to rent their bandwidth from the larger ones, and therefore as soon as the big two choose to impose metered billing for everyone (and if law doesn't prevent them from doing so, they will), it will cascade down to anyone who isn't directly connected to those two (which is an insignificantly small number. I personally don't know anyone whose residential internet isn't connected through Bell or Videotron.)
There's not enough competition, and therefore nowhere to go for a better deal. It's just begging for regulation, but the problem is what I suspect it also is in Australia or New Zealand: the government basically ignored the internet until long after these practices had become standard. Also why Canada has the laxest cyber-piracy laws in the entire western world.
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I pay $80 a month for 50 gig.
suck it up, cananda.
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Wanna stab my ISP.
suck it up
($50/mo for 10gb and $15 for every 10 after that here)
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oh and 500kb/s is about the fastest I ever get
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okay
sack up and use those extra $$ for more internet
He had shitty internet before it went mainstream, okay.
not free healthcare
yes i am being 100% earnest here
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wait what
that ridiculously low cap that I've been hearing so much about is FORTY?
I PAY $60 A MONTH FOR TWENTY
QUIT YER BITCHIN YOU SYRUP SUCKERS
Man Alive!
You guys down south deal with some shit. I know video games are expensive, but $50/mo for 10gb?
That is insane.
Come, let us gather up some meats and cheeses, and bitterly complain about how things cost money. And sometimes they cost more than others!
My friend's sister is in town from the Falklands. Her husband works for their ISP. He told me what they were paying and how much they got and at what speeds they could get it and I think I actually recoiled in pain.
Cause I mean we've had both of those forever
Can't you just choose a ISP that slows your bitrate right down when you hit your cap like we can?
What happened here is that everyone started out charging extra for for extra bandwidth over your cap, then people started offering slowing it down and everybody jumped on that idea so the other ISPs were forced to follow suit.
You can basically only in the last year or so get unmetered internet and it costs maybe $100-200 a month.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Mailing it to Somalia
Someone help me to understand these things.
Fill me with all the knowledge you got, Big Boy.
how
we have like a billion dairy farms here, stupid fonterra
also my plan is somewhat anomalously shitty, but not very much
the main ISP (telecom) are still trying to market a 3gb plan I think, after which you go to 8kB/s and it's somehow one of their most popular ones
the thing that really annoys me is when ISPs try to insinuate that people are being greedy for making use of the service they provide
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understand the number of internet users who use facebook and email and maybe the odd youtube link and that's it
Hell yes America.
the reason it's so bad in Australia, or at least the reason that we've been forced to swallow, is that the population per square mile is so low that providing infrastructure - cabling and the like - is much more expensive for every person who's actually paying for the service.
I mean it makes sense in Australia, and to a lesser extent, Canada. I think New Zealand just matches our model to be honest.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
The metered part is the new thing. We've had caps since the 90s. I'm pretty sure the slower internet past the cap is illegal (or at least it's just not going on).
The big problem with this is that, at least here, all internet access basically goes through a couple companies, Bell or Videotron. Smaller ISPs have to rent their bandwidth from the larger ones, and therefore as soon as the big two choose to impose metered billing for everyone (and if law doesn't prevent them from doing so, they will), it will cascade down to anyone who isn't directly connected to those two (which is an insignificantly small number. I personally don't know anyone whose residential internet isn't connected through Bell or Videotron.)
There's not enough competition, and therefore nowhere to go for a better deal. It's just begging for regulation, but the problem is what I suspect it also is in Australia or New Zealand: the government basically ignored the internet until long after these practices had become standard. Also why Canada has the laxest cyber-piracy laws in the entire western world.
Yes it's pretty sweet.
All the better to spend hours on WebMD when I get a stomach ache. Because, well, you know.
dude you are seriously getting buttfucked.
I pay $65 and get 3 gig.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.