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This thread is for rules, registration guidelines, updates, schedules, and questions regarding console tournaments ONLY. This thread will NOT cover console freeplay or any other events, including handheld, PC, tabletop, etc.
Schedule Friday, August 24th
4:00pm~8:00pm -- Super Smash Brothers Melee (GC)
9:00pm~12:00am -- Guitar Hero 2 Teams (360)
Saturday, August 25th
11:00am~2:00pm -- Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas (360)
3:00pm~6:00pm -- Guitar Hero 2 Singles (360)
7:00pm~10:00pm -- Mario Kart: Double Dash (GC)
Sunday, August 26th
11:00am~2:00pm -- Gears of War
Registration
Registration for ALL console tournaments begins on Friday, August 24th, right outside of the console tournament area.
Sign-ups for Saturday and Sunday tournaments will be limited on Friday. Unrestricted registration begins the morning of a specific event, meaning sign-ups for Sunday are also restricted through Saturday. See an individual tournament's section below for more information.
Each tournament has two lists: Main and Standby. Once the Main list has been filled up, you can only sign up on Standby. This means you can only enter the tournament if someone from the Main list fails to show up (odds of this happening are generally pretty good). Entrees from Standby are on a first-come, first-served basis.
If you do not have a complete team for a team tourney, you must enter on Standby. If you subsequently find a team before the tournament starts AND there is room on the Main list, you will be moved into a guaranteed spot. Otherwise, you will be paired up with whoever else we choose from the Standby list.
Super Smash Brothers Melee
When: Friday, 4:00pm~8:00pm
Format: 1 vs 1, single elimination
Player Cap: 256 players
Rules
Singles (1v1)
Stocks: 4
Time Limit: 6 minutes
Damage Ratio: 1.0
Stage Selection: Random
Pause: Off
Self Destructs: -1
Items: Off
During a match, the winner of an individual game must keep same character. Loser may switch characters if they wish to do so. This rule ONLY applies to a single opponent. At the start of a new match, you may select any character.
Stalling tactics and the Ice Climbers' freeze and infinite throw glitches are banned.
Available Stages:*
Peach's Castle, Kongo Jungle, Jungle Japes, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi's Island, Fountain of Dreams, Green Greens, Corneria, Venom, Onett, Mute City, Pokemon Stadium, Kongo Jungle (Past), Yoshi's Island (Past), Dream Land (Past), Final Destination, Battlefield
*Subject to change.
Format: Qualifiers
Players will be divided into 32 pools, each containing up to 8 players
Each pool will be organized into an 8 player single elimination bracket
Each match will be best of 1 game
The winner of each pool advances to the semi-finals
Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
The winning players from each pool will be re-seeded and placed into a new 32 player single elimination bracket
If time allows, each match will be best of 3 games (stock and/or time limit subject to change)
If we are short on time, each match will be best of 1 game (same settings as Qualifier round)
If time allows, bracket semi-finals and grand finals will be best of 5 games
Guitar Hero 2 Teams
When: Friday, 9:00pm~12:00am
Format: 2 vs 2, single elimination
Player Cap: 128 teams (256 players)
Rules
Cooperative
Difficulty: Hard (both teams may select Expert if they wish to do so)
Song Selection
For each match, we will provide a list of three randomly selected songs. Each team will have the option of eliminating one song from the list, and must play whichever song is left. For any best-of-3 match, this list is extended to 5 songs (teams still get only one pick per match).
Format
Teams will be divided into 16 pools, each containing up to 8 teams (16 players per pool)
Each match will be best of 1 song
Both teams will play the same song at the same time, using 2 seperate stations
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
When: Saturday, 11:00am~2:00pm
Format: 4 vs 4, single elimination
Player Cap: 64 teams (256 players)
Rules
Team Sharpshooter
10 minute time limit
Rounds per-match: 2
Team respawn: No
Lock teams: No
Friendly fire: No
Game point limit: None
Briefing timer: 5 seconds
Maps: Killhouse, Vault
Restricted Items: XM-26 shotgun, C4, GPS, Motion Sensor, Radar Jammer
Format
Teams will be divided into 8 pools, each containing up to 8 teams (32 players per pool)
Whichever team has the highest cumulative score after 2 rounds wins
Teams must switch spawn points in the 2nd round
A tie will be decided by a short 5 minute "overtime" round; teams will flip a coin or RPS to determine spawn points
Guitar Hero 2 Singles
When: Friday, 3:00pm~6:00pm
Format: 1 vs 1, single elimination
Player Cap: 256 players
Rules
Pro Face-Off
Difficulty: Hard (both players may select Expert if they wish to do so)
Song Selection
For each match, we will provide a list of three randomly selected songs. Each player will have the option of eliminating one song from the list, and must play whichever song is left. For any best-of-3 match, this list is extended to 5 songs (players still get only one pick per match).
Format
Players will be divided into 32 pools, each containing up to 8 players
Crab Walking is not allowed. Use of this and other major glitches may result in immediate disqualification from the tournament.
Maps:
Default only (no map packs)
Each stage of the bracket is played on a new map in the following order: Canals, War Machine, Fuel Depot, Gridlock, Mansion, Clocktower
Both teams may agree on any default map if they wish to do so
Format
Players will be divided into 8 pools, each containing up to 8 teams (32 players per pool)
The final 8 teams will be reseeded into a new single elimination bracket
FAQ:
This post will be used to answer popular questions.
Do you know anything about handheld events?
No, so stop asking already!
When will rules for (insert game) be finished?
This depends on the game. GH2 rules will probably be similar to last year, although I strongly encourage everyone to give feedback regarding the '06 tournament. Gears and Rainbow Six could take a while, but I will do everything I can to finish up by summer.
Where's Halo?
This is something of a transition year as far as systems are concerned. While we aren't adding the PS3 and Wii until '08, there were a ton of choices on 360 and we decided to experiment. Unfortunately, there just wasn't enough room for Halo, but rest assured that it will return next year when our next-gen choices have balanced out.
Why no items for Smash Bros.?
Items have always been a bit of a headache, and given how many competitive Smash players actually show up to PAX, I've decided that switching them off makes things much easier. If you're a casual player, don't worry, you'll still have a good time. There have always been concerns regarding item and stage restrictions, but once the tournament actually began, both average and hardcore players alike forgot about it and just had fun. Keep in mind that I do not plan on using the same rules for Brawl, as it is a brand new game and will be evaluated on its own.
DO NOT FLAME!!! Posts that are blatantly off-topic and non-constructive will be deleted, without exception. This also applies to any jokes that are painfully unfunny.
I don't know about Guitar Hero.. the tournament last year was great! you guys did an awesome job. Aside from having to reset the systems, everything else was nice. Since that's fixed now.. yeah. I dunno, maybe discourage bad people from joining, since the guy I knocked out in the first round last year had some pretty choice words for me.. hrm..
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EvilBadmanDO NOT TRUST THIS MANRegistered Userregular
I'm curious...why were two seperate guitar hero 2 tournies selected? You can do teamplay in GH2 as much as you can in smash bros (2 on 2), or single player as much as you can in mario kart (1 player only to a kart). It seems like a spot is being completely wasted here by having 2 timeslots dedicated to GH2 instead of one and another game.
Why not throw in a 1 on 1 direct competition game like Fight Night: Round 3 (it's on the 360 so it goes with the next gen direction), or Virtua Fighter 5 (will be on 360 in...may? june?) which would also satisfy those looking for another fighter? I'd suggest something in the sport realm as well like team Wii Tennis, but you said no Wii or PS3 this year.
Huh? No fighting game tournament other than SSB:M?
Afraid not. We thought about including Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, but the cost of acquiring enough PS3's was too high. Otherwise, fighting games just aren't very popular these days.
I'm curious...why were two seperate guitar hero 2 tournies selected? You can do teamplay in GH2 as much as you can in smash bros (2 on 2), or single player as much as you can in mario kart (1 player only to a kart). It seems like a spot is being completely wasted here by having 2 timeslots dedicated to GH2 instead of one and another game.
Why not throw in a 1 on 1 direct competition game like Fight Night: Round 3 (it's on the 360 so it goes with the next gen direction), or Virtua Fighter 5 (will be on 360 in...may? june?) which would also satisfy those looking for another fighter? I'd suggest something in the sport realm as well like team Wii Tennis, but you said no Wii or PS3 this year.
Like I said, we're experimenting. Also, games like Fight Night aren't popular among PAX attendees, and VF5 probably won't be out on 360 until August at the earliest. Besides, nobody plays VF in the States.
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dyaballiklPAX Main Theatre House & Security Manager • PAX Community CartographerGold Coast QLD AustraliaRegistered Userregular
edited April 2007
so far, the only thing i'm really down for is gh2
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a.k.a. dya
"Riding a mongoose reminds me of having sex with a man, which is something I do frequently because I am gay!" -Gabe
Good idea on the hard / expert option for Guitar Hero 2, I think that'll broaden the competition somewhat. Are you planning on using the Playstation 2 version or the 360 version?
That and the genre's lack of popularity in the US. Plus there aren't any new fighters worth adding. The one exception is Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, but acquiring enough PS3s would cost a fortune and I just don't have the time to sell Khoo's organs.
So just curious are there any updated rules for rainbow six? Im interested in rainbow six vegas and the gears tournaments but unsure if I want to enter (or attempt to enter lol) depending on the rules. Thanks again for the good work you all do and hope to hear a response soon
Mike
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When: Friday, 4:00pm~8:00pm
Format: 1 vs 1, single elimination
Player Cap: 256 players
Rules
Singles (1v1)
Stocks: 4
Time Limit: 6 minutes
Damage Ratio: 1.0
Stage Selection: Random
Pause: Off
Self Destructs: -1
Items: Off
During a match, the winner of an individual game must keep same character. Loser may switch characters if they wish to do so. This rule ONLY applies to a single opponent. At the start of a new match, you may select any character.
Stalling tactics and the Ice Climbers' freeze and infinite throw glitches are banned.
Available Stages:*
Peach's Castle, Kongo Jungle, Jungle Japes, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi's Island, Fountain of Dreams, Green Greens, Corneria, Venom, Onett, Mute City, Pokemon Stadium, Kongo Jungle (Past), Yoshi's Island (Past), Dream Land (Past), Final Destination, Battlefield
*Subject to change.
Format: Qualifiers
Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
When: Friday, 9:00pm~12:00am
Format: 2 vs 2, single elimination
Player Cap: 128 teams (256 players)
Rules
Cooperative
Difficulty: Hard (both teams may select Expert if they wish to do so)
Song Selection
For each match, we will provide a list of three randomly selected songs. Each team will have the option of eliminating one song from the list, and must play whichever song is left. For any best-of-3 match, this list is extended to 5 songs (teams still get only one pick per match).
Format
When: Saturday, 11:00am~2:00pm
Format: 4 vs 4, single elimination
Player Cap: 64 teams (256 players)
Rules
Team Sharpshooter
10 minute time limit
Rounds per-match: 2
Team respawn: No
Lock teams: No
Friendly fire: No
Game point limit: None
Briefing timer: 5 seconds
Maps: Killhouse, Vault
Restricted Items: XM-26 shotgun, C4, GPS, Motion Sensor, Radar Jammer
Format
When: Friday, 3:00pm~6:00pm
Format: 1 vs 1, single elimination
Player Cap: 256 players
Rules
Pro Face-Off
Difficulty: Hard (both players may select Expert if they wish to do so)
Song Selection
For each match, we will provide a list of three randomly selected songs. Each player will have the option of eliminating one song from the list, and must play whichever song is left. For any best-of-3 match, this list is extended to 5 songs (players still get only one pick per match).
Format
When: Saturday, 7:00pm~10:00pm
Format: 16 player races, single elimination
Player Cap: 128 teams (256 players)
Rules
Each race includes 8 teams with 2 players each
Random character and Kart selection
Standard Karts only
150cc
Format
When: Sunday, 11:00am~2:00pm
Format: 4 vs 4, single elimination
Player Cap: 64 teams (256 players)
Rules
Warzone
Rounds: 5
Bleedout duration: 20 seconds
Round Duration: 5 minutes
Friendly Fire: On
Crab Walking is not allowed. Use of this and other major glitches may result in immediate disqualification from the tournament.
Maps:
Default only (no map packs)
Each stage of the bracket is played on a new map in the following order: Canals, War Machine, Fuel Depot, Gridlock, Mansion, Clocktower
Both teams may agree on any default map if they wish to do so
Format
This post will be used to answer popular questions.
Do you know anything about handheld events?
No, so stop asking already!
When will rules for (insert game) be finished?
This depends on the game. GH2 rules will probably be similar to last year, although I strongly encourage everyone to give feedback regarding the '06 tournament. Gears and Rainbow Six could take a while, but I will do everything I can to finish up by summer.
Where's Halo?
This is something of a transition year as far as systems are concerned. While we aren't adding the PS3 and Wii until '08, there were a ton of choices on 360 and we decided to experiment. Unfortunately, there just wasn't enough room for Halo, but rest assured that it will return next year when our next-gen choices have balanced out.
Why no items for Smash Bros.?
Items have always been a bit of a headache, and given how many competitive Smash players actually show up to PAX, I've decided that switching them off makes things much easier. If you're a casual player, don't worry, you'll still have a good time. There have always been concerns regarding item and stage restrictions, but once the tournament actually began, both average and hardcore players alike forgot about it and just had fun. Keep in mind that I do not plan on using the same rules for Brawl, as it is a brand new game and will be evaluated on its own.
DO NOT FLAME!!! Posts that are blatantly off-topic and non-constructive will be deleted, without exception. This also applies to any jokes that are painfully unfunny.
No, cause a GH2 team tourney is going to be pure awesomesauce.
What're the chances of some hints at the Computer side of things?
There is already a thread on that. Please keep this one related to the console tourneys.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=14422
(only hints you people will get are in that thread, there are still many unannounced things)
Why not throw in a 1 on 1 direct competition game like Fight Night: Round 3 (it's on the 360 so it goes with the next gen direction), or Virtua Fighter 5 (will be on 360 in...may? june?) which would also satisfy those looking for another fighter? I'd suggest something in the sport realm as well like team Wii Tennis, but you said no Wii or PS3 this year.
What were the rules last year?
Afraid not. We thought about including Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, but the cost of acquiring enough PS3's was too high. Otherwise, fighting games just aren't very popular these days.
Like I said, we're experimenting. Also, games like Fight Night aren't popular among PAX attendees, and VF5 probably won't be out on 360 until August at the earliest. Besides, nobody plays VF in the States.
Unless, of course, I'd have to pay something to enter...
...not to toot my own horn or anything
Is it just a matter of time and stuff?
Somewhere out there a Sony exec is crying...
Sorta makes you feel all good and warm inside but for all the wrong reasons
Mike
Staticwave Entertainment
AIM DJMLORD2001