The idea that the American 'pro-life' groups win and then take on Canada
beware infiltration of your civil service, then
it's a real, albeit low-probability (I think), risk. Certainly more plausible than an overt attempt to mobilize pro-life movements at a popular level in a socially liberal country
Eh, the pro-life groups here been working to set up networks in the UK for the last decade and change. Same with Australia. With more success in Australia apparently.
It's one thing to set up overseas interest groups that lobby overtly for pro-life causes; it's another thing to set up non-obviously-pro-life groups that can establish credibility in a society where being pro-choice is taken for granted. Think filling the slots of Susan G. Kamen foundations with people whose primary lobbying activity might be toward other causes but who might also be pro-life. And then a Conservative government achieves power for unrelated reasons, has a ready pool of 'neutral'-ish people to appoint to key offices in the civil service (again, for non-conspiratorial reasons like burnishing "I've never voted Conservative before" credentials) - and then suddenly the establishment's conventional wisdom of a topic taken for granted shifts under your feet. It doesn't take a conspiracy, it's just the results of a random process when there is no pressure for a "are you pro-choice?" filter for abortion-relevant offices because it's no longer an issue.
It could happen via random chance but the odds of getting enough zealous people into those positions without someone fanning the flames of zealotry seems incredibly improbable. People have to care about the issue to trigger significant change, and anything less then significant change will simply be erased next time there is a power shift.
There's always a United States of America that dominates international media and will always be fanning the flames of zealotry. It's just that people will watch those zealots speak up, face social censure, and fade away, right up to the point the Very Serious People who were enforcing social censorship have a change of heart you didn't know they were harboring for a while.
Most people in liberal democracies do not live in hyper-democratic systems where every issue can be democratically reinforced easily through sudden populist action; who gets to be part of the establishment matters, for good or for ill.
This may be a situation where I'm not in a position to see, but I didn't realize our media was pushing a pro-life line? At least with enough force to be an inspiration to others. I can see the argument for gradual societal shift but this is an issue where there is likely to be active opposition. You'd need a decent sized critical mass, or a selection of people in key positions for this to matter. Someone being Minister of Defense and being pro-life doesn't really put them in a position to accomplish a lot. And you need that critical mass to come together at the right time. It would be somewhat difficult to do as a conspiracy but it seems absurdly improbable to happen at random.
Which leaves the option of a slow gradual change but I'm thinking that it would be decades. Even discounting populist action, I am assuming that there will be bureaucratic shifts of the course of decades.
Time to make myself clean and then go hunting and gathering.
Also, this whole draft thing is dumb. It makes me feel obligated to post because I started typing something, then thought better of it, but now a draft is saved and I don't want it to be so I post something inane like the above even though I know nobody cares and I'm not going to be sticking around long enough to join in any meaningful conversation but my hate of saved drafts is greater than my concern over how I look when I post something without any substance.
Why not delete the drafts
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Arriety...good idea for a date movie if she enjoyed spirited away?
Don't watch movies on dates.
on early dates any way. perfectly fine once things are on more stable ground.
Also, I second Mazzyx's museum/art suggestion. Do some research to see if there are any quirky museums in your area.
He is in Chicago. Place has shit tons of things to do. More than poor ol' Denver does. Yet it is still pretty awesome stuff that is more than a movie and dinner.
Parks are good places for walks. Museums as I said earlier. Comedy/live shows. Historic building tours. Going to where all the folks were killed on the Valentines Day massacre.
Oooh any places doing like a beginners swing dancing thing?
Ahaha, historic building tours and beginners swing dancing?
Am I, like, forty years old? This girl is a college freshman.
But I agree that the museum idea isn't bad, I need to pick one out though.
Dancing is a great one. It's a physical active that doesn't get canceled by moderately bad weather. It allows for conversation. And it lets you be close to the girl. What is the downside again?
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Ahaha, historic building tours and beginners swing dancing?
Am I, like, forty years old? This girl is a college freshman.
But I agree that the museum idea isn't bad, I need to pick one out though.
Dancing is a great one. It's a physical active that doesn't get canceled by moderately bad weather. It allows for conversation. And it lets you be close to the girl. What is the downside again?
you're not allowed into dance classes until you're officially Old
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most people learn social skills when they become adults
That's unfortunate. I was going to Day 1 Purchase this, but now I'll probably wait a year like when I piceked up ME 2 for $19.99
Yup most people do. But we are on the internet. It isn't made up of most people.
This may be a situation where I'm not in a position to see, but I didn't realize our media was pushing a pro-life line? At least with enough force to be an inspiration to others. I can see the argument for gradual societal shift but this is an issue where there is likely to be active opposition. You'd need a decent sized critical mass, or a selection of people in key positions for this to matter. Someone being Minister of Defense and being pro-life doesn't really put them in a position to accomplish a lot. And you need that critical mass to come together at the right time. It would be somewhat difficult to do as a conspiracy but it seems absurdly improbable to happen at random.
Which leaves the option of a slow gradual change but I'm thinking that it would be decades. Even discounting populist action, I am assuming that there will be bureaucratic shifts of the course of decades.
Why not delete the drafts
Also, I second Mazzyx's museum/art suggestion. Do some research to see if there are any quirky museums in your area.
Alright, I assume she's a nerdy girl?
Science nerdy, not video game nerdy.
The Museum of Science and Industry has an exhibit that uses miniature golf to explore the roles African Americans are playing in alternative energy.
It's also crazy expensive.
He is in Chicago. Place has shit tons of things to do. More than poor ol' Denver does. Yet it is still pretty awesome stuff that is more than a movie and dinner.
Parks are good places for walks. Museums as I said earlier. Comedy/live shows. Historic building tours. Going to where all the folks were killed on the Valentines Day massacre.
Oooh any places doing like a beginners swing dancing thing?
Kids 7 to 9, probably.
Am I, like, forty years old? This girl is a college freshman.
But I agree that the museum idea isn't bad, I need to pick one out though.
It's called "smart".
close enough
2 year olds
What type of violence? I know a place with a good amount of injury(violence) stats if you want to look at that.
nerdy is winky
U DIG ZEENY U DIG LOL
j/k i luv u winky
It's thursday tomorrow, so, tequila thursday?
it was a trick question, I knew the answer
just violent behaviour in general
which is 2 year olds
I assumed there are no statistics on toddlers. How did they research it?
http://www.artic.edu/aic/
http://www.mcachicago.org/
http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/
Observation, mostly
Excel is complicated, yo.
And that's not even considering how dumb it is to compare gas price averages that are only a week apart.
It's like trying to draw a conclusion from the fact that last week it was 10 degrees colder than it is this week.
I WILL STAB YOU. WHY DID I HAVE TO SEE THAT.
Laughed.
Killing machines without social inhibitions. THEY BETTER NOT GET CAUGHT OBSERVING THEM.
Wait it was 10 Degrees colder last week????
OMG GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL
/foxlogic
I know all these museums bro
I live here
I'm just trying to decide which one
Dancing is a great one. It's a physical active that doesn't get canceled by moderately bad weather. It allows for conversation. And it lets you be close to the girl. What is the downside again?
Oh no wait, tomorrow it's going to be back down where it was last week.
Crisis averted!
you're not allowed into dance classes until you're officially Old
I was trying to shorten the list. Though I think my vote would be the modern art museum. Though the planetarium would be fun.