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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    So last week Santorum won first and Romney was a third-place candidate, and this week Romney crushes Santorum?

    This is ridiculous.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    The stock far-right mindset is easy to understand when you realize that the foundation for all their positions is that A) life always sucks, and B) it's because other people are fucking it up, and C) we need to set those fuckers straight, because D) even if they aren't actively fucking it up, THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN.



    I'm pretty sure this is the entirety of Santorum's platform.

    Don't forget burning everything to the ground if they can't get what they want.

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    SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    So last week Santorum won first and Romney was a third-place candidate, and this week Romney crushes Santorum?

    This is ridiculous.

    There are some pretty significant demographic and ideological differences between Illinois and the South's wicked sisters. Alabama and Mississippi are both very rural with a few small cities. Illinois also has some very rural areas and a few small cities, but its electorate is dominated by the metropolis of Chicago. The county level results in basically every state so far has demonstrated that Romney generally outperforms his statewide result in urban and suburban areas, while Santorum outperforms his result in more rural areas. Moreoever, voters who answered exit polls during the 2008 primary in Alabama and Mississippi were much more likely to be evangelicals than voters in other states, so those were contests where Santorum could make a social issues appeal to suburban and urban voters in those states to prevent Romney from running up the sort of margin in population-dense counties, but that same strategy wasn't going to work as effectively with Republicans in Chicago and the collar counties.

    The voting patterns make sense, is what I'm trying to communicate. It's getting to the point where new polls aren't really telling us much that we shouldn't already be able to extrapolate.

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    One thing that surprises me is that Latinos are moving towards African-American numbers when it comes to Obama v. Romney*. I know there has been crazy talk during the debates and the state-level GOP representatives have been filthy, along with many of their constituents. But has rhetoric and proposed legislation been that bad, really? I'm not complaining, mind! With a presumably higher Latino turnout and with anything close to a 70-14 Obama margin, Romney would need to win a fuckload of other states where Latinos are not a factor. Rubio is not a possible VP pick either.

    *70-14 in a Fox News Latino poll!**
    **McCain got 31%!

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    One thing that surprises me is that Latinos are moving towards African-American numbers when it comes to Obama v. Romney*. I know there has been crazy talk during the debates and the state-level GOP representatives have been filthy, along with many of their constituents. But has rhetoric and proposed legislation been that bad, really? I'm not complaining, mind! With a presumably higher Latino turnout and with anything close to a 70-14 Obama margin, Romney would need to win a fuckload of other states where Latinos are not a factor. Rubio is not a possible VP pick either.

    *70-14 in a Fox News Latino poll!**
    **McCain got 31%!

    Yes.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Ron Paul called Secret Service welfare. *facepalm*
    "You’re having the taxpayers pay to take care of somebody," Paul told the late night host. "I’m an ordinary citizen and I would think I should pay for my own protection.”
    THE POLICE AND ARMY DO THAT ALL THE TIME YOU RETARD

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    SticksSticks I'd rather be in bed.Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    It exists for the welfare of the people they protect. He's technically correct I suppose.

    edit: It's government funded too. Holy shit it IS government welfare!

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    Does he know that secret service also safeguards the currency?

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    centraldogmacentraldogma Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Ron Paul called Secret Service welfare. *facepalm*
    "You’re having the taxpayers pay to take care of somebody," Paul told the late night host. "I’m an ordinary citizen and I would think I should pay for my own protection.”
    THE POLICE AND ARMY DO THAT ALL THE TIME YOU RETARD

    I think that's his point. Why should he get the extra protection of the secret service above what private citizens receive?

    Do 3rd party candidates (ie. Those running for the Green party) receive secret service? I would have a problem if only Republican and Democrat nominees were afforded privileges that 3rd parties were not.

    When people unite together, they become stronger than the sum of their parts.
    Don't assume bad intentions over neglect and misunderstanding.
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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    I think that's his point. Why should he get the extra protection of the secret service above what private citizens receive?
    Because they are more likely to get shot at.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Ron Paul called Secret Service welfare. *facepalm*
    "You’re having the taxpayers pay to take care of somebody," Paul told the late night host. "I’m an ordinary citizen and I would think I should pay for my own protection.”
    THE POLICE AND ARMY DO THAT ALL THE TIME YOU RETARD

    I think that's his point. Why should he get the extra protection of the secret service above what private citizens receive?

    Do 3rd party candidates (ie. Those running for the Green party) receive secret service? I would have a problem if only Republican and Democrat nominees were afforded privileges that 3rd parties were not.

    haha, NOPE

    Also I think this is referencing one of the daughters going to Oaxaca?

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Does he know that secret service also safeguards the currency?

    They also handle a lot of cybercrime, due to their experience.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Romney wrote:
    The government would have banned Thomas Edison's light bulb, oh by the way they just did.
    Because god forbid a much better improvement comes along and is replaced because of a requirement to meet efficiency standards. It isn't like inefficiency contributes to millions of deaths from a global catastrophe like global warming.

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    Bring back lead paint!

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    centraldogmacentraldogma Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Couscous wrote: »
    I think that's his point. Why should he get the extra protection of the secret service above what private citizens receive?
    Because they are more likely to get shot at.

    But that isn’t the only qualification. Beyonce isn’t receiving secret service protection, nor is Selena Gomez who has received death threats.

    If the qualification for getting secret service protection is being a candidate for president from one of the two major parties, I think I have a problem with that. The two major parties should not be receiving favorable treatment from the government.

    Now I don’t know if that’s why Ron Paul has a problem with them. I didn’t read the rest of his statement.

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    When people unite together, they become stronger than the sum of their parts.
    Don't assume bad intentions over neglect and misunderstanding.
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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    I think that's his point. Why should he get the extra protection of the secret service above what private citizens receive?
    Because they are more likely to get shot at.

    But that isn’t the only qualification. Beyonce isn’t receiving secret service protection, nor is Selena Gomez who has received death threats.

    If the qualification for getting secret service protection is being a candidate for president from one of the two major parties, I think I have a problem with that. The two major parties should not be receiving favorable treatment from the government.

    Now I don’t know if that’s why Ron Paul has a problem with them. I didn’t read the rest of his statement.

    After RFK, we extended the protection to strong candidates.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Celebrities have nothing on politicians as far as assassination attempts. Government officials are also far more important to the country.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Does he know that secret service also safeguards the currency?

    The currency that's worthless because it's founded on magic?

    I think it's safe to assume when the question "Does Ron Paul know/understand X" about the government comes up the answer is no.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    All major candidates receive protection. Third parties can get it if they are reasonably big. Let's face it, nobody gave a shit about whatever third parties there were in 2008.

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Celebrities have nothing on politicians as far as assassination attempts. Government officials are also far more important to the country.

    Take one look at voter turnout, then at Jersey Shore ratings.

    I don't think government is considered all that important to this country.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Popularity does not determine importance.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Celebrities have nothing on politicians as far as assassination attempts. Government officials are also far more important to the country.

    Take one look at voter turnout, then at Jersey Shore ratings.

    I don't think government is considered all that important to this country.

    My dad didn't consider eating lots of fruits and veg to be very important, that didn't stop the heart attack.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    I think that's his point. Why should he get the extra protection of the secret service above what private citizens receive?
    Because they are more likely to get shot at.

    But that isn’t the only qualification. Beyonce isn’t receiving secret service protection, nor is Selena Gomez who has received death threats.

    If the qualification for getting secret service protection is being a candidate for president from one of the two major parties, I think I have a problem with that. The two major parties should not be receiving favorable treatment from the government.

    Now I don’t know if that’s why Ron Paul has a problem with them. I didn’t read the rest of his statement.

    I'm pretty sure he's talking about one of the daughters going on a trip to Oaxaca.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    I think that's his point. Why should he get the extra protection of the secret service above what private citizens receive?
    Because they are more likely to get shot at.

    But that isn’t the only qualification. Beyonce isn’t receiving secret service protection, nor is Selena Gomez who has received death threats.

    If the qualification for getting secret service protection is being a candidate for president from one of the two major parties, I think I have a problem with that. The two major parties should not be receiving favorable treatment from the government.

    Now I don’t know if that’s why Ron Paul has a problem with them. I didn’t read the rest of his statement.

    Do you know why Romney, a candidate, is receiving Secret Service protection? Because people are insane and kill the fuck out of people over disagreements. Or worse, they'll try to kill someone because they're trying to impress a Hollywood star.

    This is why Ron Paul isn't taken seriously. He doesn't weigh the options, the issues, the good or the bad. He's credited for sticking to his guns (metaphorically), but it's to a fault. There will always be exceptions to things in life, and this is one of those things. "PEOPLE SHOULDN'T PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLE." Even in his head, there exist exceptions. But he doesn't speak of them because then his house of cards will come tumbling down.

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    centraldogmacentraldogma Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    All major candidates receive protection. Third parties can get it if they are reasonably big. Let's face it, nobody gave a shit about whatever third parties there were in 2008.

    In the context of Herman Cain and Ron Paul being able to receive secret service protection?

    When people unite together, they become stronger than the sum of their parts.
    Don't assume bad intentions over neglect and misunderstanding.
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    BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Celebrities have nothing on politicians as far as assassination attempts. Government officials are also far more important to the country.

    Take one look at voter turnout, then at Jersey Shore ratings.

    I don't think government is considered all that important to this country.

    Take one look at how many people buy apples, then look at how many people look at oranges.

    I don't think apples are considered all that important to this country.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Ron Paul called Secret Service welfare. *facepalm*
    "You’re having the taxpayers pay to take care of somebody," Paul told the late night host. "I’m an ordinary citizen and I would think I should pay for my own protection.”
    THE POLICE AND ARMY DO THAT ALL THE TIME YOU RETARD

    Romney should pay for his own bodyguards.

    He can afford them.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    The stock far-right mindset is easy to understand when you realize that the foundation for all their positions is that A) life always sucks, and B) it's because other people are fucking it up, and C) we need to set those fuckers straight, because D) even if they aren't actively fucking it up, THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN.



    I'm pretty sure this is the entirety of Santorum's platform.

    Don't forget burning everything to the ground if they can't get what they want.

    Oh, heaven forfend I do that.

    It's mindboggling that one of Romney's most sticky attacks against Santorum is that Ol' Frothy voted in favor of raising the debt ceiling. The Teapers eat that shit up like fish food.


    ". . . and my opponent here voted to NOT send the country into a death-spiral nightmare of financial default meltdown which would destroy the world with utter certainty!"


    "BOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    This is why candidates need Secret Service protection. To deny this need is to deny reality.

    This is the least CONSPIRACY! video I could find:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRJC9bWTIz4

    Yes another instance of Ron Paul not knowing what the fuck he's talking about.

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Bagginses wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Celebrities have nothing on politicians as far as assassination attempts. Government officials are also far more important to the country.

    Take one look at voter turnout, then at Jersey Shore ratings.

    I don't think government is considered all that important to this country.

    Take one look at how many people buy apples, then look at how many people look at oranges.

    I don't think apples are considered all that important to this country.

    Importance is a subjective term of valuation. Governance is not important to the majority of the American populace. Governance and Government Officials do, however, have a great deal of impact on the lives of the American populace.

    Just want to make sure we're not confusing the two.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Celebrities have nothing on politicians as far as assassination attempts. Government officials are also far more important to the country.

    Take one look at voter turnout, then at Jersey Shore ratings.

    I don't think government is considered all that important to this country.

    Take one look at how many people buy apples, then look at how many people look at oranges.

    I don't think apples are considered all that important to this country.

    Importance is a subjective term of valuation. Governance is not important to the majority of the American populace. Governance and Government Officials do, however, have a great deal of impact on the lives of the American populace.

    Just want to make sure we're not confusing the two.

    THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK ON HOUN

    If you don't think the government and who works in it and for it is more important than the Jersey Shore, I'm sorry, you're a fucking idiot. I realize that many people in this country fit into that category, but it is hardly an important point to bring up in the context of this question.

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    Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    The stock far-right mindset is easy to understand when you realize that the foundation for all their positions is that A) life always sucks, and B) it's because other people are fucking it up, and C) we need to set those fuckers straight, because D) even if they aren't actively fucking it up, THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN.



    I'm pretty sure this is the entirety of Santorum's platform.

    You forgot about Karma. Its a big part of their mindset. If your life sucks its because God/Karma wants it to suck. To turn your life around, suck up to God/Karma and every pesky thing will fix itself. Even Terminal Cancer.

    Government Welfare is not sucking up to God, therefore its evil. Unless you believe in God, then its okay and totally not a handout.

    The sky was full of stars, every star an exploding ship. One of ours.
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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Candidates who receive Secret Service protection are chosen by a combination of a House committee and the Secretary of Homeland Security. Ron Paul is--as usual--completely fucking retarded. We protect our political candidates because it is vital and important to a representative democracy that your political candidates can actually, you know, run for office without being fucking murdered.

    God, his level of disconnect from reality and his complete lack of understanding of modern political science is truly fucking appalling for someone running to be president. Jesus fucking Christ.

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    RandomEngyRandomEngy Registered User regular
    Santorum gets 10 delegates and Romney gets 41. This is enough to warrant a headline of "Romney holds his ground".

    Everyone admits that it's "difficult" for Santorum to win, but nobody seems to want to say how difficult. The delegate math is pretty crushing at this point.

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    BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    RandomEngy wrote: »
    Santorum gets 10 delegates and Romney gets 41. This is enough to warrant a headline of "Romney holds his ground".

    Everyone admits that it's "difficult" for Santorum to win, but nobody seems to want to say how difficult. The delegate math is pretty crushing at this point.

    ABC was pretty good on this: Romney needs 47% of future delegates while Santorum needs 63%, if memory serves. If there is a high proportion of Sanatorium-friendly states from here on out and Gingrich manages to have all his delegates transferred to Santorum at the convention. Basically, imagine a state where all the cities have sent in their results but we're still waiting on the boonies.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    They all keep hoping for just not letting Romney get the magic number, as if the party won't make damn he sure wins it immediately with unpledged delegates anyway.

    Buy hey, I'm all for this getting dragged out as long as possible. Keep fighting the good fight you poor doomed wacky bastards!

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/democrats-flip-after-romney-advisors-compares-campaign-to-etch-a-sketch.php?ref=fpa
    ...Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom today about how his candidate plans to handle the general election.

    Fehrnstrom was asked on CNN Wednesday whether he was concerned that Romney’s prolonged fight with Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum would force him to “tack so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election.”

    “Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign,” Fehrnstrom responded. “Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all of over again.”
    How are they so fucking bad at this?

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Another ad for the general. "Romney was prepared to say anything to get votes from republican primary voters, and now he calls himself a centrist. What makes you think he is being honest now?"

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    SticksSticks I'd rather be in bed.Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/democrats-flip-after-romney-advisors-compares-campaign-to-etch-a-sketch.php?ref=fpa
    ...Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom today about how his candidate plans to handle the general election.

    Fehrnstrom was asked on CNN Wednesday whether he was concerned that Romney’s prolonged fight with Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum would force him to “tack so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election.”

    “Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign,” Fehrnstrom responded. “Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all of over again.”

    "Wait, you're filming this? Turn that fucking camera off!"
    How are they so fucking bad at this?

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/democrats-flip-after-romney-advisors-compares-campaign-to-etch-a-sketch.php?ref=fpa
    ...Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom today about how his candidate plans to handle the general election.

    Fehrnstrom was asked on CNN Wednesday whether he was concerned that Romney’s prolonged fight with Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum would force him to “tack so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election.”

    “Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign,” Fehrnstrom responded. “Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all of over again.”
    How are they so fucking bad at this?

    Because the Romney campaign fires people who attempt to adhere to concepts like "reality" and "winning".

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