I know quite a few Catholics who feel overwhelming guilt about life but aren't sure why. They've brought this up to me. What the hell is with that religion!
They are like Jews. Guilt is genetic.
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I know quite a few Catholics who feel overwhelming guilt about life but aren't sure why. They've brought this up to me. What the hell is with that religion!
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I know quite a few Catholics who feel overwhelming guilt about life but aren't sure why. They've brought this up to me. What the hell is with that religion!
Guilt is a huge part of the Catholic dogma that most in the faith carry a little of.
"Jesus died because you are such a fuckup. He did all this suffering for YOU and THIS is how you choose to live your life? In Sin?!? How dare you squander the gift he has given you!"
Yeah, that part of the message is pretty horrible.
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Also if you don't serialize yourself, you're gonna have a super bad time... if urahonky in the programming thread is any indication.
Well either serialize yourself or make extensive use of markup attributes in your code indicating how your classes should be serialized. I prefer to write it myself.
edit: and of course you really should never be sending something over the wire where you just let some black-box serializer rip your internal data down to a stream. That is a huge security nono.
I dunno what all this poop talk is. Didn't your doctors tell your ladywives to do an enima before they came to the hospital? Pooping was never a thing for us because we are sensible.
So seriously.... her water broke, contractions started... and you went for the hose and the enema gear?
Wow. I mean, that is really courteous for the people doing the delivery, but I have never heard of someone doing that before you.
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Most labor does not begin with water breaking. Our first one, she did the thing with the poop removal, then we went to the grocery store and walked around for an hour or so picking out stuff she'd like to eat. Then we checked out, went to the birthing center, and they sent us home for a while. A couple hours later we went back because the contractions were less than 10min apart, and stayed until birth +14 hours or so, then went home.
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"Super Monday Night Combat crew" is an interesting way to describe you crying alone in your basement while sharpening a straight razor.
Might want to add it to Urban Dictionary.
"Cult" is an interesting way to describe you dressing your cats up in adorable little outfits, and sitting them around a table where you pretend to serve tea.
That sounds fucking awesome. Holy shit, I wish they would sit still through the whole tea service but they just won't!
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I dunno what all this poop talk is. Didn't your doctors tell your ladywives to do an enima before they came to the hospital? Pooping was never a thing for us because we are sensible.
So seriously.... her water broke, contractions started... and you went for the hose and the enema gear?
Wow. I mean, that is really courteous for the people doing the delivery, but I have never heard of someone doing that before you.
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Most labor does not begin with water breaking. Our first one, she did the thing with the poop removal, then we went to the grocery store and walked around for an hour or so picking out stuff she'd like to eat. Then we checked out, went to the birthing center, and they sent us home for a while. A couple hours later we went back because the contractions were less than 10min apart, and stayed until birth +14 hours or so, then went home.
Yeah, I just types stream of conscious there... got stuff a little out of order, but still... I have never heard of this before.
I mean, it's a really nice gesture, but I can't imagine its super common for a person to care to do the enema before getting in the car and heading to the hospital.
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@TomeWyrm ignore these heretics; join the Super Monday Night Combat crew!
"Super Monday Night Combat crew" is an interesting way to describe you crying alone in your basement while sharpening a straight razor.
Might want to add it to Urban Dictionary.
"Cult" is an interesting way to describe you dressing your cats up in adorable little outfits, and sitting them around a table where you pretend to serve tea.
That sounds fucking awesome. Holy shit, I wish they would sit still through the whole tea service but they just won't!
I dunno what all this poop talk is. Didn't your doctors tell your ladywives to do an enima before they came to the hospital? Pooping was never a thing for us because we are sensible.
So seriously.... her water broke, contractions started... and you went for the hose and the enema gear?
Wow. I mean, that is really courteous for the people doing the delivery, but I have never heard of someone doing that before you.
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Most labor does not begin with water breaking. Our first one, she did the thing with the poop removal, then we went to the grocery store and walked around for an hour or so picking out stuff she'd like to eat. Then we checked out, went to the birthing center, and they sent us home for a while. A couple hours later we went back because the contractions were less than 10min apart, and stayed until birth +14 hours or so, then went home.
my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
For me the issue is the combination of horrible religion AND that religion being one that tends to stress reproduction. Being dumped because you don't want kids feels goddamn horrible.
It's like "Oh hey there's a nice-looking girl and oh fuck Catholic NOOOOOOOO."
Erry day.
your shit's fucked in the head
eh? I'm not disagreeing with that in general about jewcar ( :bz ) but if I was single I sure as hell wouldn't want to date someone who identified as religious.
your shit's fucked in the head, too!
you live in a major coastal population center. devoutly religious people exist. but the majority of people identify as 'belonging to a religion' regardless of how religious they are. it's that or 'i don't know exactly what i believe but i'm sort of spiritual'. meh. it's whatever. people absorb a huge amount of programming from their environment. unless they are pledging to become nuns, who cares? you're really slicing out a huge section of the population there.
The cities in the Pacific Northwest actually largely pride themselves on being tremendously secular.
Even the people who do identify as "Catholic" and show up for Mass on Sundays end up telling the church to fuck off some of the time.
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I dunno what all this poop talk is. Didn't your doctors tell your ladywives to do an enima before they came to the hospital? Pooping was never a thing for us because we are sensible.
So seriously.... her water broke, contractions started... and you went for the hose and the enema gear?
Wow. I mean, that is really courteous for the people doing the delivery, but I have never heard of someone doing that before you.
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Most labor does not begin with water breaking. Our first one, she did the thing with the poop removal, then we went to the grocery store and walked around for an hour or so picking out stuff she'd like to eat. Then we checked out, went to the birthing center, and they sent us home for a while. A couple hours later we went back because the contractions were less than 10min apart, and stayed until birth +14 hours or so, then went home.
Yeah, I just types stream of conscious there... got stuff a little out of order, but still... I have never heard of this before.
I mean, it's a really nice gesture, but I can't imagine its super common for a person to care to do the enema before getting in the car and heading to the hospital.
It's courteous, sure, but I bet the woman also loves not shitting herself while pushing out a baby.
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For me the issue is the combination of horrible religion AND that religion being one that tends to stress reproduction. Being dumped because you don't want kids feels goddamn horrible.
That happens in both directions all the time regardless of religion.
Some people want to spawn and some don't. They probably shouldn't be in a long term relationship if they don't agree on that one.
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my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
It actually turns out that this is legitimately better for most births.
Lower rate of institutional infections and less stress on the mother.
As long as it's a board-certified nurse-midwife attending the delivery... the midwife can identity irregularities that require the attention of an OB in a hospital.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I dunno what all this poop talk is. Didn't your doctors tell your ladywives to do an enima before they came to the hospital? Pooping was never a thing for us because we are sensible.
So seriously.... her water broke, contractions started... and you went for the hose and the enema gear?
Wow. I mean, that is really courteous for the people doing the delivery, but I have never heard of someone doing that before you.
er
Most labor does not begin with water breaking. Our first one, she did the thing with the poop removal, then we went to the grocery store and walked around for an hour or so picking out stuff she'd like to eat. Then we checked out, went to the birthing center, and they sent us home for a while. A couple hours later we went back because the contractions were less than 10min apart, and stayed until birth +14 hours or so, then went home.
Yeah, I just types stream of conscious there... got stuff a little out of order, but still... I have never heard of this before.
I mean, it's a really nice gesture, but I can't imagine its super common for a person to care to do the enema before getting in the car and heading to the hospital.
It's courteous, sure, but I bet the woman also loves not shitting herself while pushing out a baby.
I don't think that would really work. The average time in labor for a first birth is 16 hours.
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my favourite thing in the world is making a catholic explain to me that there are no more paedophiles, percentage-wise, in the priesthood than in the general population
but that the big difference is that the general population goes out of its way to make sure paedophiles are punished, while the church just tries to hush it up
was this one of those 'be in touch with mother gaia, feel the love of my life system' type hippie things?
or was it medically necessary
Well, a combination of things. One of them is that interventions tend to cascade, and oftentimes pitosin-induced labor leads to epidural leads to unproductive contractions leads to sedative + c-section leads to being stoned and confused and unable to nurse because of the drugs and missing the first minutes of your baby's life.
Natural births hurt more but often take less time and dude, the endorphins make you a superhero with near total memory loss. It's just easier to do all the things you want to do during birth if you're not strapped to a hospital bed with an IV and a heart monitor and rails and a dozen strange people telling you to get in bed when walking around makes the labor progress.
Another part was her strong feeling that pregnancy is not a disease, and birth is not a medical procedure.
She did all three naturally, two in the Austin Area Birthing Center and one in a special ward of a hospital that did basically the same thing.
Also if you don't serialize yourself, you're gonna have a super bad time... if urahonky in the programming thread is any indication.
Well either serialize yourself or make extensive use of markup attributes in your code indicating how your classes should be serialized. I prefer to write it myself.
edit: and of course you really should never be sending something over the wire where you just let some black-box serializer rip your internal data down to a stream. That is a huge security nono.
Yeah.
I may have over simplified because I pretty much always break it down by encoding to a byte array. Though it's been a while since I've touched C++, doesn't the STD fix this issues with the String class? I mean you could pretty much just use std::wstring for everything if you wanted.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
For me the issue is the combination of horrible religion AND that religion being one that tends to stress reproduction. Being dumped because you don't want kids feels goddamn horrible.
That happens in both directions all the time regardless of religion.
Some people want to spawn and some don't. They probably shouldn't be in a long term relationship if they don't agree on that one.
Indeed. Though I think the same about religion. Never would be in a LTR with someone who identified as a believer.
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"Super Monday Night Combat crew" is an interesting way to describe you crying alone in your basement while sharpening a straight razor.
Might want to add it to Urban Dictionary.
"Cult" is an interesting way to describe you dressing your cats up in adorable little outfits, and sitting them around a table where you pretend to serve tea.
That sounds fucking awesome. Holy shit, I wish they would sit still through the whole tea service but they just won't!
Actually... yeah, that does sound kind of awesome.
Also if you don't serialize yourself, you're gonna have a super bad time... if urahonky in the programming thread is any indication.
Well either serialize yourself or make extensive use of markup attributes in your code indicating how your classes should be serialized. I prefer to write it myself.
edit: and of course you really should never be sending something over the wire where you just let some black-box serializer rip your internal data down to a stream. That is a huge security nono.
Yeah.
I may have over simplified because I pretty much always break it down by encoding to a byte array. Though it's been a while since I've touched C++, doesn't the STD fix this issues with the String class? I mean you could pretty much just use std::wstring for everything if you wanted.
The STL in general (and in particular String) was too little too late. You use those as much as possible but every goddamn library / framework / platform will require you to be able to convert those std:Strings into all kinds of other bullshit formats.
For me the issue is the combination of horrible religion AND that religion being one that tends to stress reproduction. Being dumped because you don't want kids feels goddamn horrible.
That happens in both directions all the time regardless of religion.
Some people want to spawn and some don't. They probably shouldn't be in a long term relationship if they don't agree on that one.
Certainly. It just raises the chance of someone going "Oh by the way turns out I DO want kids." later on and turning a splendid romantic relationship into horrible depression.
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my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
It actually turns out that this is legitimately better for most births.
Lower rate of institutional infections and less stress on the mother.
As long as it's a board-certified nurse-midwife attending the delivery... the midwife can identity irregularities that require the attention of an OB in a hospital.
she was also super in love with me and named her son after me without talking to me o.oi
I bet she's talking all kinds of natural remedies that prevent aging so when her son is old enough she can consummate her love for you.
my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
It actually turns out that this is legitimately better for most births.
Lower rate of institutional infections and less stress on the mother.
As long as it's a board-certified nurse-midwife attending the delivery... the midwife can identity irregularities that require the attention of an OB in a hospital.
she was also super in love with me and named her son after me without talking to me o.oi
my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
It actually turns out that this is legitimately better for most births.
Lower rate of institutional infections and less stress on the mother.
As long as it's a board-certified nurse-midwife attending the delivery... the midwife can identity irregularities that require the attention of an OB in a hospital.
she was also super in love with me and named her son after me without talking to me o.oi
you need to use that leverage to get that kid vaccinated dude. People in the US are dying of pertussus (aka whooping cough) because of horrible shitbags like your friend.
The STL in general (and in particular String) was too little too late. You use those as much as possible but every goddamn library / framework / platform will require you to be able to convert those std:Strings into all kinds of other bullshit formats.
True, true. Kind of like Qt.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
It actually turns out that this is legitimately better for most births.
Lower rate of institutional infections and less stress on the mother.
As long as it's a board-certified nurse-midwife attending the delivery... the midwife can identity irregularities that require the attention of an OB in a hospital.
she was also super in love with me and named her son after me without talking to me o.oi
I bet she's talking all kinds of natural remedies that prevent aging so when her son is old enough she can consummate her love for you.
that shit ain't even funny! that baby so coulda been mine. like she must have conceived less than half a year after we hooked up. scary!
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For me the issue is the combination of horrible religion AND that religion being one that tends to stress reproduction. Being dumped because you don't want kids feels goddamn horrible.
That happens in both directions all the time regardless of religion.
Some people want to spawn and some don't. They probably shouldn't be in a long term relationship if they don't agree on that one.
Indeed. Though I think the same about religion. Never would be in a LTR with someone who identified as a believer.
Your call, though there are many shades of gray between atheist and religious nutjob.
There are lots of people who "believe" that don't fill their home with crosses and pray for your eternal soul because you are a heathen, and probably wouldn't even go to mass or force you to get your kids baptized (rather letting it be their choice down the road).
On the other hand, wanting kids or not wanting kids does not leave a lot of room for nuance.
Being a believer is not a Mark of Cain and something to run away from screaming - it is simply the fact that the believe in something greater than themselves. How they APPLY that belief to their daily life and interactions is where drawing the line should exist, IMO.
Never gonna date a bona fide evangelical. Never ever.
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Midwifery is often associated with homeopathic hippie bullshit
but it's also a legitimate medical profession
It's unfortunate that it gets wrapped up in all the hippie dippie holistic craziness, because there's a pile of legit reasons to avoid a hospital for a healthy mother and a low-risk birth. Also, people who want to breastfeed immediately or not have their children taken from them immediately after birth have few options in a hospital unless there's a husband willing to raise hell.
Seems like paranoia but then we had that thing where Texas was saving heel-stick blood (fucking barbaric in the first place) from infants to build a law-enforcement DNA database the parents had never consented to. Imagine my simultaneous rage and trollface when I found out it was happening, and none of my kids were subjected to it.
my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
It actually turns out that this is legitimately better for most births.
Lower rate of institutional infections and less stress on the mother.
As long as it's a board-certified nurse-midwife attending the delivery... the midwife can identity irregularities that require the attention of an OB in a hospital.
Yup. Access to proper clean facilities, trained personal and access to emergency car if need be is what is required. Midwifes are perfectly fine for most births. But being able to get to a doctor in case of complications. Also the birthing facility needs to be sterile including all instruments used. That is really important.
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They are like Jews. Guilt is genetic.
Guilt is a huge part of the Catholic dogma that most in the faith carry a little of.
"Jesus died because you are such a fuckup. He did all this suffering for YOU and THIS is how you choose to live your life? In Sin?!? How dare you squander the gift he has given you!"
Yeah, that part of the message is pretty horrible.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Well either serialize yourself or make extensive use of markup attributes in your code indicating how your classes should be serialized. I prefer to write it myself.
edit: and of course you really should never be sending something over the wire where you just let some black-box serializer rip your internal data down to a stream. That is a huge security nono.
The list of great things starring NPH is one item long.
(Dr. Horrible.)
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Most labor does not begin with water breaking. Our first one, she did the thing with the poop removal, then we went to the grocery store and walked around for an hour or so picking out stuff she'd like to eat. Then we checked out, went to the birthing center, and they sent us home for a while. A couple hours later we went back because the contractions were less than 10min apart, and stayed until birth +14 hours or so, then went home.
That sounds fucking awesome. Holy shit, I wish they would sit still through the whole tea service but they just won't!
I mean, it's a really nice gesture, but I can't imagine its super common for a person to care to do the enema before getting in the car and heading to the hospital.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Slapsgiving.
Harold & Kumar's Christmas movie.
DOOGIE HOWSER.
I wonder if cats would like catnip tea....
twitch.tv/tehsloth
my super hippie/naturalist/anti-vaxxer friend laura did something like this i think. she paid for what was basically a nice apartment for a few days and it includes a midwife. and you just sort of go there with a few family members and friends and have your private space outside of a hospital.
You are missing Harold and Kumar and Doogie Howser MD. Also all the cool shit he did on Broadway.
Even the people who do identify as "Catholic" and show up for Mass on Sundays end up telling the church to fuck off some of the time.
It's courteous, sure, but I bet the woman also loves not shitting herself while pushing out a baby.
That happens in both directions all the time regardless of religion.
Some people want to spawn and some don't. They probably shouldn't be in a long term relationship if they don't agree on that one.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
It actually turns out that this is legitimately better for most births.
Lower rate of institutional infections and less stress on the mother.
As long as it's a board-certified nurse-midwife attending the delivery... the midwife can identity irregularities that require the attention of an OB in a hospital.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I don't think that would really work. The average time in labor for a first birth is 16 hours.
but that the big difference is that the general population goes out of its way to make sure paedophiles are punished, while the church just tries to hush it up
its fun
but it's also a legitimate medical profession
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Well, a combination of things. One of them is that interventions tend to cascade, and oftentimes pitosin-induced labor leads to epidural leads to unproductive contractions leads to sedative + c-section leads to being stoned and confused and unable to nurse because of the drugs and missing the first minutes of your baby's life.
Natural births hurt more but often take less time and dude, the endorphins make you a superhero with near total memory loss. It's just easier to do all the things you want to do during birth if you're not strapped to a hospital bed with an IV and a heart monitor and rails and a dozen strange people telling you to get in bed when walking around makes the labor progress.
Another part was her strong feeling that pregnancy is not a disease, and birth is not a medical procedure.
She did all three naturally, two in the Austin Area Birthing Center and one in a special ward of a hospital that did basically the same thing.
Yeah.
I may have over simplified because I pretty much always break it down by encoding to a byte array. Though it's been a while since I've touched C++, doesn't the STD fix this issues with the String class? I mean you could pretty much just use std::wstring for everything if you wanted.
Indeed. Though I think the same about religion. Never would be in a LTR with someone who identified as a believer.
I would probably show up for that. :oops:
I don't understand the vitriol people have towards them.
The STL in general (and in particular String) was too little too late. You use those as much as possible but every goddamn library / framework / platform will require you to be able to convert those std:Strings into all kinds of other bullshit formats.
Certainly. It just raises the chance of someone going "Oh by the way turns out I DO want kids." later on and turning a splendid romantic relationship into horrible depression.
I bet she's talking all kinds of natural remedies that prevent aging so when her son is old enough she can consummate her love for you.
she was also super in love with me and named her son after me without talking to me o.oi
what!?
first girl i knock up, i'm feeding her chemo
you need to use that leverage to get that kid vaccinated dude. People in the US are dying of pertussus (aka whooping cough) because of horrible shitbags like your friend.
I did.
And then she said she wanted babies.
That is why I don't fit in my nice shirts anymore.
True, true. Kind of like Qt.
that shit ain't even funny! that baby so coulda been mine. like she must have conceived less than half a year after we hooked up. scary!
Your call, though there are many shades of gray between atheist and religious nutjob.
There are lots of people who "believe" that don't fill their home with crosses and pray for your eternal soul because you are a heathen, and probably wouldn't even go to mass or force you to get your kids baptized (rather letting it be their choice down the road).
On the other hand, wanting kids or not wanting kids does not leave a lot of room for nuance.
Being a believer is not a Mark of Cain and something to run away from screaming - it is simply the fact that the believe in something greater than themselves. How they APPLY that belief to their daily life and interactions is where drawing the line should exist, IMO.
Never gonna date a bona fide evangelical. Never ever.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
It's unfortunate that it gets wrapped up in all the hippie dippie holistic craziness, because there's a pile of legit reasons to avoid a hospital for a healthy mother and a low-risk birth. Also, people who want to breastfeed immediately or not have their children taken from them immediately after birth have few options in a hospital unless there's a husband willing to raise hell.
Seems like paranoia but then we had that thing where Texas was saving heel-stick blood (fucking barbaric in the first place) from infants to build a law-enforcement DNA database the parents had never consented to. Imagine my simultaneous rage and trollface when I found out it was happening, and none of my kids were subjected to it.
Yup. Access to proper clean facilities, trained personal and access to emergency car if need be is what is required. Midwifes are perfectly fine for most births. But being able to get to a doctor in case of complications. Also the birthing facility needs to be sterile including all instruments used. That is really important.