I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
Sometimes people need to overcompensate a bit for a little while. Like a drunk who goes completely sober before learning moderation. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
Sometimes people need to overcompensate a bit for a little while. Like a drunk who goes completely sober before learning moderation. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
You know it's a thing that some people believe that alcoholism is a copout for not learning moderation.
I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
Sometimes people need to overcompensate a bit for a little while. Like a drunk who goes completely sober before learning moderation. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
You know it's a thing that some people believe that alcoholism is a copout for not learning moderation.
i've been using git solo. trying to get in the habit for when i find a public repo i feel i can contribute to meaningfully (or i do a decent job with a private project) but so far it's hard to care much when i'm basically doing a private repo for myself. nice to memorize all the commands, though.
I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
Sometimes people need to overcompensate a bit for a little while. Like a drunk who goes completely sober before learning moderation. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
God, I hate that South Park episode on alcoholism.
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I have no problem with people getting rid of things. If you need cash and you have comics to sell and it means keeping a roof over your head, you are STUUUUPID for not selling those pieces of paper unless your dead father gave them to you.
But that condescending "Guess I gotta grow up and stop being a fucking kid" riles me up beyond believe. It conjures all kinds of icky images for me like parents telling you to grow up (never happened to me) or significant others saying shit like "Change your geek hobby or I'm leaving you motherfucker!" (never happened to me either, because I'd show them the fucking door)
I just hate condescension. I realize there's a slippery slope there. It's easy to excuse shit like wearing fedoras and and jean jackets to a formal dinner with that logic, but at the same time, if I am a functioning adult with a job and relationship don't you fucking judge me. Fuck you and fuck your kind, eat the darkest part of my asshole.
I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
Sometimes people need to overcompensate a bit for a little while. Like a drunk who goes completely sober before learning moderation. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
God, I hate that South Park episode on alcoholism.
I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
Sometimes people need to overcompensate a bit for a little while. Like a drunk who goes completely sober before learning moderation. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
God, I hate that South Park episode on alcoholism.
I have no problem with people getting rid of things. If you need cash and you have comics to sell and it means keeping a roof over your head, you are STUUUUPID for not selling those pieces of paper unless your dead father gave them to you.
But that condescending "Guess I gotta grow up and stop being a fucking kid" riles me up beyond believe. It conjures all kinds of icky images for me like parents telling you to grow up (never happened to me) or significant others saying shit like "Change your geek hobby or I'm leaving you motherfucker!" (never happened to me either, because I'd show them the fucking door)
I just hate condescension. I realize there's a slippery slope there. It's easy to excuse shit like wearing fedoras and and jean jackets to a formal dinner with that logic, but at the same time, if I am a functioning adult with a job and relationship don't you fucking judge me. Fuck you and fuck your kind, eat the darkest part of my asshole.
we need some context to decide if its condescending or not.
throwing out stuff you used to be interested in as a child, and calling that growing up, isn't in itself condescending to the people who still like that stuff. It just means you don't anymore.
I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
Sometimes people need to overcompensate a bit for a little while. Like a drunk who goes completely sober before learning moderation. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
God, I hate that South Park episode on alcoholism.
america's political culture seems permanently frozen in some era before it became a heavily industrialized and urbanized welfare state
a society where the bureaucracy efficiently and promptly notifies you when you have a bill, and then extracts it from you in the gentlest way when you neglect to pay it, is necessarily a society that (1) knows where you are almost all the time (2) and stores a vast amount of knowledge about you and your habits
this "ten days notice, and pay up or we extract a huge punitive fee from you" is very much a product of a society where the only people who rack up relevant bills are those actively buying stuff from the state or are society's outcasts anyway. it is archaic in a society where almost everyone is going have a tax bill of some form
you guys don't even have ID cards. despite the de facto existence of widespread social security and driver's licenses, the illusion that you only form limited and constitutionally-circumscribed links to assorted state agencies is apparently too hard to give up.
why do so many people neglect to claim EITC or food stamps when they are eligible? But wait, why do they have to claim it to begin with?
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
I think that it is not healthy to propagate the idea that there is an in between because then every alcoholic thinks they -are- an in between. Can't we just silently admit that maybe some people can learn better without filling alcoholics heads full of excuses and false hope?
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
someone who is a huge asshole when he gets drunk but hardly ever does it isn't an alcoholic, just someone who shouldn't drink
you don't have to be unable to have just a few and always drink until you pass out to be an alcoholic
I think one of the saddest things is the new postdoc (and the one who just left) who staunchly refuse to goof off because they are "trying to grow up."
This involves things like refusing to come to a "silly hats party" because it was viewed as something undergraduates would do.
But both of them were only like three years older than everyone there? And it was all grad students/other post-docs.
They're just afraid people will find out they're craaaazy uninteresting.
Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
I think that it is not healthy to propagate the idea that there is an in between because then every alcoholic thinks they -are- an in between. Can't we just silently admit that maybe some people can learn better without filling alcoholics heads full of excuses and false hope?
so what do you tell the people who have legitimate alcohol problems but who aren't incapable of moderate solutions?
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
someone who is a huge asshole when he gets drunk but hardly ever does it isn't an alcoholic, just someone who shouldn't drink
you don't have to be unable to have just a few and always drink until you pass out to be an alcoholic
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
I don't actually agree with that.
I think if a person makes his own judgment that drinking alcohol is unsafe for him, I will respect that decision.
However, I think the pervasive message common among recovery communities that it is impossible for an alcoholic to learn moderation is actually very damaging. It's one thing to make a personal decision not to drink; it's another thing entirely to have people in positions of authority tell you that it is impossible for you to not be an addict.
In any case, I chose the word 'drunk' over 'alcoholic' because I was hoping to sidestep that attitude.
Feral on
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
someone who is a huge asshole when he gets drunk but hardly ever does it isn't an alcoholic, just someone who shouldn't drink
you don't have to be unable to have just a few and always drink until you pass out to be an alcoholic
can you rephrase the last sentence
even if you're able to drink in moderation one night, instead of drinking until you pass out, you can still be an alcoholic.
Lots of alcoholics are that way. They don't get shitfaced, but they drink very, very often.
alcoholic has a pretty broad definition, especially outside of a treatment clinic. lots of people have very destructive relationships with alcohol- relationships that are unhealthy and that need to be modified in drastic ways. if only the people who can't ever manage moderation are allowed to be called alcoholics, i welcome a more granular phrase for the other folks. 'alcohol abusers'? because alcoholics are that, also.
someone who is a huge asshole when he gets drunk but hardly ever does it isn't an alcoholic, just someone who shouldn't drink
you don't have to be unable to have just a few and always drink until you pass out to be an alcoholic
can you rephrase the last sentence
even if you're able to drink in moderation one night, instead of drinking until you pass out, you can still be an alcoholic.
Lots of alcoholics are that way. They don't get shitfaced, but they drink very, very often.
i'm not sure what your point is. or i mean, i see what you're saying but it seemed like you were trying to contradict me.
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Had the best HoN game where two in my team played mid and abandoned bot lane. A huge deal of whining went on and we nearly lost our base several times. People whined Y U FARM a lot too.
Turned it around myself, bought a 250 damage item and killed the entire team and their base personally. And I said Y I FARM YO. So satisfying!
back in 2006 singapore had a general election. utterly coincidentally, I'm sure, the ruling regime announced fiscal stimulus that was basically a lot of cash handouts graded progressively by house size and income, electronically deposited into bank accounts
when the day came and the cash got sent out, everyone found out that any and all accumulated traffic fines, library late fees, etc. had all been deducted beforehand
I remember noting to a fellow student that the deduction might have been good civil policy, but it wasn't very good Keynesian stimulus
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if a drunk means an alcoholic, they don't really ever learn moderation. It's not a thing they're able to do.
and as a statement, deliciously condescending and dismissive
You know it's a thing that some people believe that alcoholism is a copout for not learning moderation.
Personally I think a drunk came up with it
this is going very much against my instinct that houses constitute considerable wealth
I might be inclined to go well time to grow up I guess
but I wouldn't mean it in a good way
I wish I had the space for all my things ever
Some people are silly though.
--LeVar Burton
i've been using git solo. trying to get in the habit for when i find a public repo i feel i can contribute to meaningfully (or i do a decent job with a private project) but so far it's hard to care much when i'm basically doing a private repo for myself. nice to memorize all the commands, though.
God, I hate that South Park episode on alcoholism.
But that condescending "Guess I gotta grow up and stop being a fucking kid" riles me up beyond believe. It conjures all kinds of icky images for me like parents telling you to grow up (never happened to me) or significant others saying shit like "Change your geek hobby or I'm leaving you motherfucker!" (never happened to me either, because I'd show them the fucking door)
I just hate condescension. I realize there's a slippery slope there. It's easy to excuse shit like wearing fedoras and and jean jackets to a formal dinner with that logic, but at the same time, if I am a functioning adult with a job and relationship don't you fucking judge me. Fuck you and fuck your kind, eat the darkest part of my asshole.
There is a South Park about alcoholism?
I missed that one.
Which season?
Bloody Mary, ninth season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Mary_(South_Park)
we need some context to decide if its condescending or not.
throwing out stuff you used to be interested in as a child, and calling that growing up, isn't in itself condescending to the people who still like that stuff. It just means you don't anymore.
Well, I know what I'm doing for the next half hour.
Then I may watch the episode.
a society where the bureaucracy efficiently and promptly notifies you when you have a bill, and then extracts it from you in the gentlest way when you neglect to pay it, is necessarily a society that (1) knows where you are almost all the time (2) and stores a vast amount of knowledge about you and your habits
this "ten days notice, and pay up or we extract a huge punitive fee from you" is very much a product of a society where the only people who rack up relevant bills are those actively buying stuff from the state or are society's outcasts anyway. it is archaic in a society where almost everyone is going have a tax bill of some form
you guys don't even have ID cards. despite the de facto existence of widespread social security and driver's licenses, the illusion that you only form limited and constitutionally-circumscribed links to assorted state agencies is apparently too hard to give up.
why do so many people neglect to claim EITC or food stamps when they are eligible? But wait, why do they have to claim it to begin with?
I would like one
mostly as a reason to buy the whole ensemble with suit and coat and etc etc
Generally this group is called 'college students.'
What's wrong skippy?
I think that it is not healthy to propagate the idea that there is an in between because then every alcoholic thinks they -are- an in between. Can't we just silently admit that maybe some people can learn better without filling alcoholics heads full of excuses and false hope?
someone who is a huge asshole when he gets drunk but hardly ever does it isn't an alcoholic, just someone who shouldn't drink
you don't have to be unable to have just a few and always drink until you pass out to be an alcoholic
They're just afraid people will find out they're craaaazy uninteresting.
so what do you tell the people who have legitimate alcohol problems but who aren't incapable of moderate solutions?
can you rephrase the last sentence
It's not knowing how to do things and also being dumb.
And posting on video game forums, of course.
I am starting college soon.
The traditional start is the Fadder week
which is a week straight - with occasional sleep the only breaks - of heavy drinking
I'm scared
High functioning alcoholics?
I don't actually agree with that.
I think if a person makes his own judgment that drinking alcohol is unsafe for him, I will respect that decision.
However, I think the pervasive message common among recovery communities that it is impossible for an alcoholic to learn moderation is actually very damaging. It's one thing to make a personal decision not to drink; it's another thing entirely to have people in positions of authority tell you that it is impossible for you to not be an addict.
In any case, I chose the word 'drunk' over 'alcoholic' because I was hoping to sidestep that attitude.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
even if you're able to drink in moderation one night, instead of drinking until you pass out, you can still be an alcoholic.
Lots of alcoholics are that way. They don't get shitfaced, but they drink very, very often.
...don't do that?
i'm not sure what your point is. or i mean, i see what you're saying but it seemed like you were trying to contradict me.
Turned it around myself, bought a 250 damage item and killed the entire team and their base personally. And I said Y I FARM YO. So satisfying!
back in 2006 singapore had a general election. utterly coincidentally, I'm sure, the ruling regime announced fiscal stimulus that was basically a lot of cash handouts graded progressively by house size and income, electronically deposited into bank accounts
when the day came and the cash got sent out, everyone found out that any and all accumulated traffic fines, library late fees, etc. had all been deducted beforehand
I remember noting to a fellow student that the deduction might have been good civil policy, but it wasn't very good Keynesian stimulus
I have a very strong respect for tradition.