I feel kinda dumb though. Both Psolms AND Spool were pm'ing about strategy talk this game. Psolms before kime became network head... then he stopped talking to me. Spool started talking to me yesterday out of the blue, maybe to try to get me to pass on information I might have had from the network.
Yesterday? We've been talking for a while.
And indeed there will be time
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street,
Rubbing its back upon the window panes;
There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet;
There will be time to murder and create,
And time for all the works and days of hands
That lift and drop a question on your plate...
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warbanWho the Hoof do you think we are?Registered Userregular
You got active all of a sudden with the questions today! Will we see a network call finally? Lacking a vig, what's left of your network is going to have to come into the light a bit.
I feel kinda dumb though. Both Psolms AND Spool were pm'ing about strategy talk this game. Psolms before kime became network head... then he stopped talking to me. Spool started talking to me yesterday out of the blue, maybe to try to get me to pass on information I might have had from the network.
Spool PM'd me as well, immediately after I voted for tzeetch with him. Message was "If nothing else, maybe it'll spur some mafia into throwing votes on one of them."
I would take it he was lying through his teeth. Is there a chance that they'd vote for each other once a bandwagon is set? Either this or were misled by spool intentionally.
And hope my record shows clearly enough that I'm clean - I vigged a mafia on night 2, ffs.
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Lemme double check any votes on psolms.
Day 1: psolms has the second highest vote count at 8 (I could only find 6), barely half of what Langley ended up with.
These people stuck with psolms as their final vote:
-Diorinix [436], kime [458], Langley [544], Mill [293], That Dave Fella [487], The Ender [348]
In addition, 4 people had a vote on psolms, but eventually switched their vote.
-Lucedes [psolms @355, TrueNeverborn @490], TrueNeverborn [psolms @278, Langley @596], vagrant_winds [psolms @290, Langley @589], and Zandracon [psolms @344, Anialos @627].
If people still suspect TrueNeverborn as mafia, then there is a three vote swing off of psolms and two of those votes piled onto Langley (TrueNeverborn, vagrant_winds) and one onto the guy who died two days later to the vote (Zandracon).
One last thing to note about Day 1: third place was tied at 4 votes between Anialos and TrueNeverborn.
I feel kinda dumb though. Both Psolms AND Spool were pm'ing about strategy talk this game. Psolms before kime became network head... then he stopped talking to me. Spool started talking to me yesterday out of the blue, maybe to try to get me to pass on information I might have had from the network.
Spool PM'd me as well, immediately after I voted for tzeetch with him. Message was "If nothing else, maybe it'll spur some mafia into throwing votes on one of them."
I would take it he was lying through his teeth. Is there a chance that they'd vote for each other once a bandwagon is set? Either this or were misled by spool intentionally.
And hope my record shows clearly enough that I'm clean - I vigged a mafia on night 2, ffs.
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea.
You made me sad not responding to that. Sad and suspicious, in the same way Premium ignoring my comment made me suspicious enough to call a mafia kill on him.
Kime, it was my suggestion NOT to aim at the first target you brought up, which led to us hitting Exarch. And don't forget, I have co-operated AND have done other things to help the network. Tossing me aside seems petty. There are actual mafia to investigate.
For I have known them all already, known them all:
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?
And I have known the eyes already, known them all—
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase,
And when I am formulated, sprawling on a pin,
When I am pinned and wriggling on the wall,
Then how should I begin
To spit out all the butt-ends of my days and ways?
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adventfallsWhy would you wish to know?Registered Userregular
Recurring patterns:
-TrueNeverborn: While appearing to make a really, really bad call on Day 1, he also had a wagon with Exarch and Megafrost on him on Day 2. And it was a relatively close vote. Not a sure-fire sign he's clean, but there's a scent of lemony freshness.
-vagrant_winds: Has switched onto the 'winning' vote twice: one on Day 1 when it was off of a mafia, again Day 3 when he got off of Mill to vote for Anialos - and that vote no one else switched saw for Anialos himself. Looks sketchy, check him out.
Day 1 is the only day I can see with a definite bandwagon shift onto Langley and off of psolms and to a lesser extent TrueNeverborn.
Yah Day 1 is what I was talking about. I don't know if we should look at who pushed off psolms (besides me). I think I pushed back almost immediately when they tried to vote him out on account of his name. IMO he was not really being suspicious otherwise.
I should have gotten it sooner though. He said one thing in PM I should have payed more attention to. It definitely ticked my radar and I told Kime about it, but I guess we both thought he was credible enough to believe up until last night. I was both surprised to see a kill called on him and that he came up RED. I'm glad the network was able to make that call last night, because I wouldn't have and for that I feel bad.
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I voted Langly the first night because Infidel's argument made sense to me, and both the psolms and TrueNeverborn wagons were silly. The others I admit to sheeping along with the wagon.
Has The Ender contributed to the game much? I don't remember seeing much of substance in his posts - though in this game, that is not exactly uncommon it seems.
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Also voting for him in place of my initial vote on Spool cause he's dead anyway, and I want my thoughts to be noted.
Mock horror at a mafia being mafia.
Joining Spool on a vote (and belittling your kill. It was luck! Your mafiadar is off!)
Verifying "100%" the way to use your secret (which we'd known for a day+)
Acting like you were covering for Kime aiming you by claiming your kill (or is your mafiadar off? I'm so confused!)
Wait, no it was a lucky shot in the dark!
Your posts reek of faux-helpfulness and alternate between helplessness (mafiadar off! sorry guys!) and skill (I killed a mafia remember? I was just covering for you Kime when I claimed credit for my aim. )
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- mock horror?
- legitmately joining spool's vote because we had no direction from the network. Or would have rather me join another bandwagon on a villager?
- the verification was in response to several people questioning in the thread how the secrets revealed mechanic worked. Obviously some people didn't know or cared to know.
- I didn't want to reveal that kime had included me into the network, potentially adding another juicy target for the mafia to take out.
- There was a sequence of choices we had for who to aim at with my secret. Exarch was chosen by eliminating one option, with others as a possibility. We didn't have confirmation on any of the others - how else can you describe that besides luck?
This is good info about Diorinix - I had been operating under the assumption that he made his own kill decision and had basically penciled him in as confirmed village. From the looks of things it might be time to revisit that.
Also, I've been saying this for a couple days, but the psolms situation definitely hammers it home - there's essentially no way that TNB is mafia at this point. Broken clock indeed.
- mock horror?
- legitmately joining spool's vote because we had no direction from the network. Or would have rather me join another bandwagon on a villager?
- the verification was in response to several people questioning in the thread how the secrets revealed mechanic worked. Obviously some people didn't know or cared to know.
- I didn't want to reveal that kime had included me into the network, potentially adding another juicy target for the mafia to take out.
- There was a sequence of choices we had for who to aim at with my secret. Exarch was chosen by eliminating one option, with others as a possibility. We didn't have confirmation on any of the others - how else can you describe that besides luck?
Kime, it was my suggestion NOT to aim at the first target you brought up, which led to us hitting Exarch. And don't forget, I have co-operated AND have done other things to help the network. Tossing me aside seems petty. There are actual mafia to investigate.
Basically contradicting your claim of bad mafiadar (see hey I have good aim I'm the reason we hit) and you're acting like you belong in the network without seering. Your tone and claims don' jive.
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So you're speaking on behalf of the network, then? Where's your seering?
I'll take direction from kime when directed, thank you very much. Perhaps you could enlighten us with what he's told you?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Mmmmm....toasty.
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adventfallsWhy would you wish to know?Registered Userregular
And have a repeat of spool?
No thank you.
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What? No, I'm acting on behalf of your awkwardly contradictory posts in the thread. Kime has encouraged discussion and you seem to feel that because your power was involved in 1 positive thing, that you're above suspicion.
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I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,
And in short, I was afraid.
And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worth while,
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it toward some overwhelming question,
To say: “I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”—
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all;
That is not it, at all.”
And lest we forget, I had a vote on psolms on day 1 and stuck to it. 4 others did the same, of which 3 were also village (kime, dave, langly).
And ME! I confirm I'm a villager. ^_~ lol, one hell of a coincidence that he ACTUALLY ended up being Mafia though. Must of been 2pm on this broken clock of mine. Spool looks to be diving today
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Yesterday? We've been talking for a while.
And indeed there will be time
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street,
Rubbing its back upon the window panes;
There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet;
There will be time to murder and create,
And time for all the works and days of hands
That lift and drop a question on your plate...
I hope you enjoy this
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You got active all of a sudden with the questions today! Will we see a network call finally? Lacking a vig, what's left of your network is going to have to come into the light a bit.
Or are you fresh out of targets now?
Spool PM'd me as well, immediately after I voted for tzeetch with him. Message was "If nothing else, maybe it'll spur some mafia into throwing votes on one of them."
I would take it he was lying through his teeth. Is there a chance that they'd vote for each other once a bandwagon is set? Either this or were misled by spool intentionally.
And hope my record shows clearly enough that I'm clean - I vigged a mafia on night 2, ffs.
Mmmmm....toasty.
*cough*
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Day 1: psolms has the second highest vote count at 8 (I could only find 6), barely half of what Langley ended up with.
These people stuck with psolms as their final vote:
-Diorinix [436], kime [458], Langley [544], Mill [293], That Dave Fella [487], The Ender [348]
In addition, 4 people had a vote on psolms, but eventually switched their vote.
-Lucedes [psolms @355, TrueNeverborn @490], TrueNeverborn [psolms @278, Langley @596], vagrant_winds [psolms @290, Langley @589], and Zandracon [psolms @344, Anialos @627].
If people still suspect TrueNeverborn as mafia, then there is a three vote swing off of psolms and two of those votes piled onto Langley (TrueNeverborn, vagrant_winds) and one onto the guy who died two days later to the vote (Zandracon).
One last thing to note about Day 1: third place was tied at 4 votes between Anialos and TrueNeverborn.
I have work in like 5 hours and I think I need to sleep at some point. I won't be very useful today!
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea.
You made me sad not responding to that. Sad and suspicious, in the same way Premium ignoring my comment made me suspicious enough to call a mafia kill on him.
The mafia kill was my decision. It does not prove you innocent in any way, since you'd have been screwed if you hadn't followed my orders.
Edit: Continued attempts to do so will be seen as attempts to mislead the village.
You've been warned
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Sleep is not compatible with games of TI
Disturb the universe?
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.
Mill [293], TrueNeverborn [278], vagrant_winds [290], Zandracon [344], The Ender [348], Lucedes [355]. Diorinix [436], kime [458], That Dave Fella [487], Langley [544]
Overall bandwagon on Langley:
SLyM [341], [shalmelo [357], Infidel [581, originally warban @ 345], vagrant_winds [589, originally psolms @ 290], jdarksun [590, originally ObiFett @ 276], psolms [594, swapped twice: was originally on Langley @ 440, TrueNeverborn 441] premium [595, originally I Needed a Name To Post @ 342], TrueNeverborn [596, originally psolms @ 278], Greenbarons [598, swapped three times: Cayrus @ 284, warban @ 393, TrueNeverborn @ 442], Retaba [600, swapped three times: Cythraul @ 275, TrueNeverborn @ 482, TheRoadVirus @ 505], spool23 [604, swapped twice: Megafrost @ 336, TrueNeverborn @ 415], Egos [615, originally Kilnaga @ 331], OrangeSoda [618, swapped twice: adventfalls @ 354, TrueNeverborn @ 437], MrBlarney [637]
Mmmmm....toasty.
For I have known them all already, known them all:
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?
And I have known the eyes already, known them all—
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase,
And when I am formulated, sprawling on a pin,
When I am pinned and wriggling on the wall,
Then how should I begin
To spit out all the butt-ends of my days and ways?
-TrueNeverborn: While appearing to make a really, really bad call on Day 1, he also had a wagon with Exarch and Megafrost on him on Day 2. And it was a relatively close vote. Not a sure-fire sign he's clean, but there's a scent of lemony freshness.
-vagrant_winds: Has switched onto the 'winning' vote twice: one on Day 1 when it was off of a mafia, again Day 3 when he got off of Mill to vote for Anialos - and that vote no one else switched saw for Anialos himself. Looks sketchy, check him out.
Day 1 is the only day I can see with a definite bandwagon shift onto Langley and off of psolms and to a lesser extent TrueNeverborn.
I should have gotten it sooner though. He said one thing in PM I should have payed more attention to. It definitely ticked my radar and I told Kime about it, but I guess we both thought he was credible enough to believe up until last night. I was both surprised to see a kill called on him and that he came up RED. I'm glad the network was able to make that call last night, because I wouldn't have and for that I feel bad.
Won't be totally useful today. Still recovering.
Or maybe it did and they just got lost in the water/hair?
Has The Ender contributed to the game much? I don't remember seeing much of substance in his posts - though in this game, that is not exactly uncommon it seems.
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I agree that simply contributing your secret in a positive manner doesn't = you're verified.
@diorinix
RIDDLE ME THIS CRAPMAN
Why have your posts been:
Mock horror at a mafia being mafia.
Joining Spool on a vote (and belittling your kill. It was luck! Your mafiadar is off!)
Verifying "100%" the way to use your secret (which we'd known for a day+)
Acting like you were covering for Kime aiming you by claiming your kill (or is your mafiadar off? I'm so confused!)
Wait, no it was a lucky shot in the dark!
Your posts reek of faux-helpfulness and alternate between helplessness (mafiadar off! sorry guys!) and skill (I killed a mafia remember? I was just covering for you Kime when I claimed credit for my aim. )
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- mock horror?
- legitmately joining spool's vote because we had no direction from the network. Or would have rather me join another bandwagon on a villager?
- the verification was in response to several people questioning in the thread how the secrets revealed mechanic worked. Obviously some people didn't know or cared to know.
- I didn't want to reveal that kime had included me into the network, potentially adding another juicy target for the mafia to take out.
- There was a sequence of choices we had for who to aim at with my secret. Exarch was chosen by eliminating one option, with others as a possibility. We didn't have confirmation on any of the others - how else can you describe that besides luck?
Try harder.
Mmmmm....toasty.
A couple quick pre-coffee observations:
This is good info about Diorinix - I had been operating under the assumption that he made his own kill decision and had basically penciled him in as confirmed village. From the looks of things it might be time to revisit that.
Also, I've been saying this for a couple days, but the psolms situation definitely hammers it home - there's essentially no way that TNB is mafia at this point. Broken clock indeed.
More once I'm properly caffeinated.
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That's interesting, because you
Basically contradicting your claim of bad mafiadar (see hey I have good aim I'm the reason we hit) and you're acting like you belong in the network without seering. Your tone and claims don' jive.
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I'll take direction from kime when directed, thank you very much. Perhaps you could enlighten us with what he's told you?
Mmmmm....toasty.
No thank you.
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I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,
And in short, I was afraid.
And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worth while,
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it toward some overwhelming question,
To say: “I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”—
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all;
That is not it, at all.”
And lest we forget, I had a vote on psolms on day 1 and stuck to it. 4 others did the same, of which 3 were also village (kime, dave, langly).
Mmmmm....toasty.
And ME! I confirm I'm a villager. ^_~ lol, one hell of a coincidence that he ACTUALLY ended up being Mafia though. Must of been 2pm on this broken clock of mine. Spool looks to be diving today
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Povnding headache. Joy.