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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    @Tube, I heard a lot of people say that the EU sucked but you just gave me a real reason to believe it sucked. Exar Kun is debatable but the thought that the vong and legacy cheapen the original trilogy is something I had never considered and realize now is a truth that assaults my childhood memories.

    Thank you.

    Is there anything worthwhile in the EU that would make for a good movie.

    Rogue Squadron could be a TV serial

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    Exar Kun might be a perfectly adequate character on his own (I mean, he isn't. he's an XXXtreme sith lord with cool long hair and two lightsabers) but the effect that he and every other overpowered character in the EU has on the overall canon is giving the impression that the conflict in the original trilogy was small potatoes. Compared to Darth Bane using a (sigh) force bomb to wipe out an entire planet who the fuck cares about Palpatine? If Anakin is such hot shit, why doesn't he use (sigh) force fold space like Revan apparently can?

    Essentially what the EU did was take a story about fun futuristic knight/monks with laser swords and turn it into this awful semi-sci-fi inspired D&D story. Here's some shit that isn't in any of the movies that is inexplicably in the EU

    Sith wearing dresses
    Force Witches
    "Sorcery"
    Force users who can teleport, fly, devour planets etc
    Vibroblades that can fight on an even keel with lightsabers (so who gives a shit about lightsabers)
    Force energy physically manifesting itself as a dark cloud or what the fuck ever

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    I could write a tv miniseries adaptation of KOTOR 2 that would blow your mind. I have spent so many hours daydreaming about it.

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    on the other hand the EU doesn't have psychic bacteria which conspire to cause parthenogenesis

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    on the other hand the EU doesn't have psychic bacteria which conspire to cause parthenogenesis

    Yes it does.

    That scene was like two minutes long and totally plot irrelevant. Move on.

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    all EU stories should be like Darksaber

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    I was ok with the EU until they introduced the Vong. I read the first novel with them in it, said nope out loud, and haven't read a single thing since.

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    I read the EU up until the end of the Vong or so.

    I knew it was terrible for a while before I stopped, I just needed to know how it ended.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    I have read I think two EU novels (unless you count the ROTS novelisation), some shitty one set inbetween TPM and AOTC where Anakin gets a spaceship made of plants or whatever and one about Darth Vader in the immediate aftermath of ROTS which was actually pretty good.

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I have read I think two EU novels (unless you count the ROTS novelisation), some shitty one set inbetween TPM and AOTC where Anakin gets a spaceship made of plants or whatever and one about Darth Vader in the immediate aftermath of ROTS which was actually pretty good.

    That one with the plant spaceship ended up being used to resolve the Vong stuff. It was dumb.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Both the Rogue Squadron and Wraith Squadron series are excellent and don't have any dumb EU stuff that I can remember. I completely recommend them.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    a plant ship?

    Did it run on sunlight?

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    The best EU stuff is generally the stuff that happens on a small scale and doesn't involve the universe being obliterated.

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    the best EU stuff is the stuff that doesn't star Jedi Knights

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    honestly, I really want movies based off the Lando adventures. Dude followed money into the weirdest part of the fucking galaxy AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    I like how the movies had the death star so the books said well the guy who made the death star made this other superweapon that can blow up suns and it's totally indestructible and has no weaknesses!!


    also something about how a lot of the designers on the death star didn't know it was meant to be a superweapon they literally thought it was going to be used in space mining

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    The conflict in the original series was supposed to be about a rebellion that was kinda a big deal but not galaxy shattering

    The old with we're stronger because of reasons (it could also just be bullshit or overblown)

    The vong were really fucking dumb though

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    @Tube, I heard a lot of people say that the EU sucked but you just gave me a real reason to believe it sucked. Exar Kun is debatable but the thought that the vong and legacy cheapen the original trilogy is something I had never considered and realize now is a truth that assaults my childhood memories.

    Thank you.

    Is there anything worthwhile in the EU that would make for a good movie.

    Pretty much all the novels are fucking garbage

    The games and shows are almost universally good though

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    oh here comes pip "loves the EU so much he wants to marry it" thefair

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    What

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    I liked Young Jedi Knights.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    You guys remember that N64 game Rogue Squadron?

    That was a fun game.

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    You guys remember that N64 game Rogue Squadron?

    That was a fun game.

    KOELSCH

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    EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    Both the Rogue Squadron and Wraith Squadron series are excellent and don't have any dumb EU stuff that I can remember. I completely recommend them.

    These two series helped me really get into reading as a kid.

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    MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    One of my top 3 games of all time.

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    FavlaudFavlaud just straight up awful Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I could write a tv miniseries adaptation of KOTOR 2 that would blow your mind. I have spent so many hours daydreaming about it.
    tell me more

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Tube wrote: »
    The best EU stuff is generally the stuff that happens on a small scale and doesn't involve the universe being obliterated.

    The Gold Standard is generally Dark Force rising. It followed a simple structure.

    Set many years after the original conflict.

    Had a villain that was strictly beneath the established cannon in power level.

    Used an unexplained phenomenon in the original trilogy to give cause for his power (Clone Wars).

    It didn't try to one up anything, the conflict wasn't made out to be bigger than the OT. It was a fringe Rebellion against the new republic, and it only worked because of technology that the author used to explain a major dark point in Star Wars canon.

    It was simple. It called back to the OT without exclusively using those characters. It didn't try to be better than the OT in any facet. And it tried to explain something that people actually had questions about.

    But yeah, a lot of that other shit? Like the Sunkiller, Exar-Kun and his Super Ghost, and the Emperor's endless parade of clones? I got tired of the EU way before I got tired of the prequels.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    As a kid I liked most of Rogue Squadron, but I'm not even going to pretend that I'm not viewing those through Rose-tinted glasses.

    Everyone's a good author when you're in the 6th grade.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    The thing that needs to be kept from the EU is Chewie yelling at a moon while it crushes him

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    yeah, that dark force rising

    with its force-eating tree sloths and that guy who was just the best strategist everrr but didn't do anything before because the emperor was totally racist and its inexplicably u-doubling cloning technology

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    also featuring another han solo, but this one has a goatee I think

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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    So I had to break the news to a best friend the other day, that the EU is officially licensed material, not actually just terrible fanfics scattered across the internet which was his original thought. I think I nearly made him cry.

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    HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    on the other hand the EU doesn't have psychic bacteria which conspire to cause parthenogenesis

    Yes it does.

    That scene was like two minutes long and totally plot irrelevant. Move on.

    Says the guy who has apparently read all of NJO and can complain about it in detail as the worst thing ever.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    When I was a dumb grade school kid I only really read the earlier New Jedi Order books and a few silly EU comics as far as post-RotJ stuff went, so I had no idea about half the dumb shit that was going down until you guys mentioned it

    Oddly enough all the prequel EU stuff I've ever touched has been pretty solid.

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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    So I had to break the news to a best friend the other day, that the EU is officially licensed material, not actually just terrible fanfics scattered across the internet which was his original thought. I think I nearly made him cry.

    I told him about post-Episode I Darth Maul

    He had his head in his hands, constantly shaking it back and forth muttering "no no no no no" as I leaned in and whispered

    It's canon

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    I still love that Darksaber was doomed to failure because of substandard materials, shoddy workmanship, and incompetent management.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    So I had to break the news to a best friend the other day, that the EU is officially licensed material, not actually just terrible fanfics scattered across the internet which was his original thought. I think I nearly made him cry.

    I told him about post-Episode I Darth Maul

    He had his head in his hands, constantly shaking it back and forth muttering "no no no no no" as I leaned in and whispered

    It's canon

    Mecha maul is awesome because it shows how awesome obi wan is and lets uncle Owen do things

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    also featuring another han solo, but this one has a goatee I think

    except Talon Karrde is not really anything like Han Solo
    Not everybody involved in the borderline criminal underworld is meant to be a Solo knockoff (though Dash Rendar certainly was, no argument there)

    And if I recall, his smuggling was more of a side business to his information brokering

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited March 2013
    Tube wrote: »
    on the other hand the EU doesn't have psychic bacteria which conspire to cause parthenogenesis

    Yes it does.

    That scene was like two minutes long and totally plot irrelevant. Move on.

    Says the guy who has apparently read all of NJO and can complain about it in detail as the worst thing ever.

    I haven't read a word of NJO. What would that have to do with it anyway?

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    At least the Vong wiped out Ithor. Stinking hammerheads, am I right? Up top, anybody?

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