Preda pointed out I shuffled the discards back in by mistake at the Mid-War start.
I'm gonna put the game on hold until I can figure out what I may need to do here.
I'll get to it tonight, probably.
DAMN YOU VASSAL!
The simplest thing you could do is take back out all the cards from turn 3. We got 1 and played it, Iron Weasel got 1 and played it. Unless he has another in hand we should be ok, and one extra card per team wouldn't even move the second reshuffle from turn 7.
If he has another card from the previous turn I've no Idea on how to solve other than leave it there and randomly remove one of ours too. Isn't elegant but will keep the decks even.
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Iron WeaselDillon!You son of a bitch!Registered Userregular
I'm fine with whatever is easiest to implement. Stever works hard enough as it is!
Currently Playing:
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
Initiated by President Kennedy as a counter for growing Cuban influence in Central and South America, the Alliance for Progress was to help integrate the economies of North and Latin America. Emphases for the program included land reform, democratic reform and tax reform. By the late 60’s the United States had become fully embroiled in Vietnam and South Asia, thus aid for Latin America waned. Furthermore, few Latin American countries proved willing to undertake the required reforms. As a result, the Organization of American States disbanded its “permanent” Alliance for Progress Committee in 1973.
While campaigning in Dallas, Texas, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald. Two commissions, the Warren Commission, and the House Select Committee on Assassinations, differed over whether or not Oswald acted alone. In any case, the circumstances of the President’s death threw the country into a panic and created ample opportunity for conspiracy theories ranging from the Mafia, the Cuban government, the KGB and America’s own CIA. It also marked the beginning of a string of high profile political assassinations in the United States that would include Dr. Martin Luther King and John Kennedy’s brother (and Democratic Presidential candidate) Robert Kennedy. These untimely deaths shook American confidence and added to the malaise of the Vietnam era.
On September 8th the United States quietly extended its nuclear umbrella to its former Pacific rival. In doing so, it also soothed the nerves of Japan’s neighbors about a remilitarized Japan appearing on the world scene. In exchange, Japan played host to America’s forward presence in Asia. Japan effectively became an unsinkable aircraft carrier for both the Vietnam and Korean wars. Obviously, US reliance on Japanese products during the ensuing conflicts greatly aided Japan’s economic recovery and eventual economic might.
Sparked by fears that the “enemy is among us,” the “red scare” hit its apex with Senator Joseph McCarthy, and the hearings on “Un-American activities” in the House of Representatives during the 1950s. Soviet purges were a notorious aspect of power transition within the Kremlin. However, Stalin was the true master; 12 million people were imprisoned in his camps at the time of his death in 1953.
Initiated during the Johnson Administration, and completed by President Nixon and Secretary Brezhnev, the first Strategic Arms Limitations Talks (SALT) treaty essentially sought to limit the number of nuclear platforms, and restrict defensive systems that threatened the system of mutual deterrence. The success of this treaty led to the initiation of a second round of negotiations or SALT II. The diplomatic wrangling over this treaty began under President Nixon, and was completed in 1979 by President Carter and Secretary Brezhnev. SALT II provided broad limits on new strategic weapons platforms and banned mobile ICBMs. Owing to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the treaty was never ratified. President Reagan asserted that the Soviets were not complying with the terms of SALT II in 1986 and withdrew from the treaty.
*** U.S.S.R. did not perform enough Military Operations ***
* U.S.S.R. player penalized 3 VPs.
Headlines chosen. U.S. has higher Ops so American event goes first:
Sparked by fears that the “enemy is among us,” the “red scare” hit its apex with Senator Joseph McCarthy, and the hearings on “Un-American activities” in the House of Representatives during the 1950s. Soviet purges were a notorious aspect of power transition within the Kremlin. However, Stalin was the true master; 12 million people were imprisoned in his camps at the time of his death in 1953.
It is hard to put a precise date on when US involvement in Vietnam ceased to be support for an anti-communist counter-insurgency and became instead an inextricable quagmire. However, Congressional passage of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution seems like as good a point as any. With hindsight, it is clear that the United States confused the very nature of the conflict that they were fighting. Vietnam was fundamentally a war of national liberation—a struggle that had begun centuries before against Chinese dominance, then French, then Japanese and finally the United States. While the American government may have never realized that they had fallen into the role of “foreign oppressor,” that fact did not diminish Vietnamese resistance. Like most colonial wars, it came down to a calculus of cost. US interests were simply not worth the costs in national morale, military manpower and economic resources that Vietnam was consuming. But humbling a superpower is a long process, and so it was in Vietnam.
Both powers are in their own particular situation to remember.
The People’s Republic of China played a pivotal role during the Cold War. While the PRC’s influence was largely limited to satellites in Asia, the country was important to the uneasy balance of power that ultimately descended upon the post-WWII world. While beginning as an ally of the USSR, China became a counter-balance to Soviet influence in Asia during the later stages of the Cold War.
Realizing that normalization of relations with China was key for US withdrawal from South Vietnam, Nixon sought a summit between himself and Mao. Nixon dispatched Henry Kissinger to secret talks with the PRC’s foreign minister Chou En-lai to lay the groundwork for the visit. Capitalizing on deteriorating Sino-Soviet relations, Nixon scored perhaps the greatest diplomatic coup of the Cold War. The Shanghai Communique that followed the summit danced around several fundamental disagreements between the two countries, including Taiwan and Vietnam. However, it was clear that the Soviet Union could no longer depend upon Chinese support in regional conflicts. While Nixon expressed his desire to fully normalize relations between the two countries quickly, Watergate interrupted these plans. It would fall to Jimmy Carter to restore full diplomatic relations between the two countries.
American discards Nixon Plays the China Card*
* U.S. Die = [3] *** <American>
* Quagmire* cancelled.
In all fairness, controlling the map, Nicaragua should be unalligned after the URSS coup AR 6...
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Iron WeaselDillon!You son of a bitch!Registered Userregular
You're a champ, Preda.
Congrats on escaping the Quagmire. I know you guys are anxious to jam my face in a Bear Trap, but before you do, I think we need to talk about America's crippling jealousy of the USSR.
Missile Envy.
Gimme dem Ops, Americanskis!
Currently Playing:
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
A term coined by Dr. Helen Caldicott, it reflects the general feminist critique that the Cold War was driven by male ego with very Freudian undercurrents. When one examines the terminology of “deep penetration” and “multiple reentry” one wonders if she had a point. Caldicott went on to found Physicians for Social Responsibility, and her book became a rallying point within the anti-nuclear movement.
The second part of the US strategy to rebuild Europe, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) became synonymous with the West’s opposition to the Soviet Union. An oft repeated maxim for NATO’s purpose captures it nicely: “NATO was created to keep the Soviets out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”
A physician, Salvador Allende was popularly elected in Chile to lead that nation’s first socialist government. Allende moved quickly to socialize copper production— Chile’s largest export commodity. The mines were largely held by two US companies, Kennecott and Anaconda. Relations with the US soon turned frosty, and the CIA supported an attempted coup in 1970. It failed. However, as the West applied harsh economic sanctions, the Allende regime floundered in its second and third years. In 1973, the military, led by Augusto Pinochet, deposed Allende with a bloody assault on the presidential palace. Allende took his own life.
*** American plays ABM Treaty Event ***
* American changes DefCon to 4.
* Coups and realignments now allowed in Asia.
*** American plays card for 4 Ops.
*** American initiates realignment in Pakistan.
* American roll modifier: +4
* Soviet roll modifier: +0
* U.S. Die = [5] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <American>
* Removing 4 Soviet Influence from Pakistan.
*
* 3 Ops remaining for Realignment.
*** American initiates realignment in Iraq.
* American roll modifier: +3
* Soviet roll modifier: +1
* U.S. Die = [4] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <American>
* Removing 3 Soviet Influence from Iraq.
*
* 2 Ops remaining for Realignment.
*** American initiates realignment in India.
* American roll modifier: +3
* Soviet roll modifier: +0
* U.S. Die = [2] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [2] *** <American>
* Removing 3 Soviet Influence from India.
*
* 1 Ops remaining for Realignment.
*
*** American initiates realignment in Chile.
* American roll modifier: +0
* Soviet roll modifier: +1
* U.S. Die = [1] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <American>
* Already zero American influence in Chile.
*
* 0 Ops remaining for Realignment.
The Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty sought to cement the system of mutually assured destruction as the lynchpin of strategic balance. The ABM treaty restricted the ability of the two superpowers to defend themselves from nuclear strike. In theory, this made a first strike to prevent the introduction of destabilizing defensive systems unnecessary. Both nations were allowed to defend either their capital or one field of ICBMs with a missile defense system. The Soviets deployed such a system around Moscow. Ultimately, the US abandoned its system deployed in Grand Forks, North Dakota.
The racist, minority government of South Africa began to be challenged by the African National Congress with Soviet and Cuban assistance from bases in Tanzania and Zambia and other “front-line” states. The era of peaceful resistance formally ended with the massacres in Sharpeville and Langa. For its part, South Africa sought to destabilize its neighbors, and undertook an invasion of Namibia, while also supporting UNITA in Angola and FRELIMO in Mozambique. However, increasing black population, more powerful black trade unions, and hostility from other western nations eventually placed South Africa on the defensive. While the Reagan Administration pursued a policy of “constructive engagement” with the Apartheid government, it remained a controversial proposition. Ultimately, the collapse of the eastern bloc made P.W. Botha’s release of Nelson Mandela inevitable.
Formed in 1942 under the War Information Office, the VOA initially broadcast war news into Nazi occupied Europe. In 1947, it altered its mission to begin broadcasting into the Soviet Union. Voice of America has become one of the best known international broadcast efforts in the world. It provided a powerful outside link to the state-controlled media systems of the Eastern Bloc. Together with Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia, Voice of America became a hallmark of US public diplomacy efforts during the Cold War.
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Coup Nicaragua
Geth, roll 1d6+1 for vs Stability 2
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
I'm gonna put the game on hold until I can figure out what I may need to do here.
I'll get to it tonight, probably.
DAMN YOU VASSAL!
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
If he has another card from the previous turn I've no Idea on how to solve other than leave it there and randomly remove one of ours too. Isn't elegant but will keep the decks even.
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
Draw deck's correct now & your hands are fine as is.
I'm only going to run TS straight from now on.
The VASSAL mod is just too unforgiving.
We'll move on from here.
American AR 6
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
+2 influence in Mexico;
+1 influence in Israel;
+1 in Japan
@Iron Weasel for last action round.
+1 India
+1 Pakistan
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
SALT Negotiations for Event
Reclaiming Red Scare from Discard Pile.
@stever777
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
Initiated by President Kennedy as a counter for growing Cuban influence in Central and South America, the Alliance for Progress was to help integrate the economies of North and Latin America. Emphases for the program included land reform, democratic reform and tax reform. By the late 60’s the United States had become fully embroiled in Vietnam and South Asia, thus aid for Latin America waned. Furthermore, few Latin American countries proved willing to undertake the required reforms. As a result, the Organization of American States disbanded its “permanent” Alliance for Progress Committee in 1973.
While campaigning in Dallas, Texas, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald. Two commissions, the Warren Commission, and the House Select Committee on Assassinations, differed over whether or not Oswald acted alone. In any case, the circumstances of the President’s death threw the country into a panic and created ample opportunity for conspiracy theories ranging from the Mafia, the Cuban government, the KGB and America’s own CIA. It also marked the beginning of a string of high profile political assassinations in the United States that would include Dr. Martin Luther King and John Kennedy’s brother (and Democratic Presidential candidate) Robert Kennedy. These untimely deaths shook American confidence and added to the malaise of the Vietnam era.
On September 8th the United States quietly extended its nuclear umbrella to its former Pacific rival. In doing so, it also soothed the nerves of Japan’s neighbors about a remilitarized Japan appearing on the world scene. In exchange, Japan played host to America’s forward presence in Asia. Japan effectively became an unsinkable aircraft carrier for both the Vietnam and Korean wars. Obviously, US reliance on Japanese products during the ensuing conflicts greatly aided Japan’s economic recovery and eventual economic might.
Sparked by fears that the “enemy is among us,” the “red scare” hit its apex with Senator Joseph McCarthy, and the hearings on “Un-American activities” in the House of Representatives during the 1950s. Soviet purges were a notorious aspect of power transition within the Kremlin. However, Stalin was the true master; 12 million people were imprisoned in his camps at the time of his death in 1953.
Initiated during the Johnson Administration, and completed by President Nixon and Secretary Brezhnev, the first Strategic Arms Limitations Talks (SALT) treaty essentially sought to limit the number of nuclear platforms, and restrict defensive systems that threatened the system of mutual deterrence. The success of this treaty led to the initiation of a second round of negotiations or SALT II. The diplomatic wrangling over this treaty began under President Nixon, and was completed in 1979 by President Carter and Secretary Brezhnev. SALT II provided broad limits on new strategic weapons platforms and banned mobile ICBMs. Owing to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the treaty was never ratified. President Reagan asserted that the Soviets were not complying with the terms of SALT II in 1986 and withdrew from the treaty.
*** U.S.S.R. did not perform enough Military Operations ***
* U.S.S.R. player penalized 3 VPs.
PM me your Headline cards for the Kennedy turn.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
Sparked by fears that the “enemy is among us,” the “red scare” hit its apex with Senator Joseph McCarthy, and the hearings on “Un-American activities” in the House of Representatives during the 1950s. Soviet purges were a notorious aspect of power transition within the Kremlin. However, Stalin was the true master; 12 million people were imprisoned in his camps at the time of his death in 1953.
It is hard to put a precise date on when US involvement in Vietnam ceased to be support for an anti-communist counter-insurgency and became instead an inextricable quagmire. However, Congressional passage of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution seems like as good a point as any. With hindsight, it is clear that the United States confused the very nature of the conflict that they were fighting. Vietnam was fundamentally a war of national liberation—a struggle that had begun centuries before against Chinese dominance, then French, then Japanese and finally the United States. While the American government may have never realized that they had fallen into the role of “foreign oppressor,” that fact did not diminish Vietnamese resistance. Like most colonial wars, it came down to a calculus of cost. US interests were simply not worth the costs in national morale, military manpower and economic resources that Vietnam was consuming. But humbling a superpower is a long process, and so it was in Vietnam.
Both powers are in their own particular situation to remember.
Soviet Action Round 1
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
China Card for Ops
Coup Pakistan
-2 American Influence
Geth, roll 1d6+4 for The Battle of Islamabad
@Preda and @Kirindal
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
@Stever777
The People’s Republic of China played a pivotal role during the Cold War. While the PRC’s influence was largely limited to satellites in Asia, the country was important to the uneasy balance of power that ultimately descended upon the post-WWII world. While beginning as an ally of the USSR, China became a counter-balance to Soviet influence in Asia during the later stages of the Cold War.
Realizing that normalization of relations with China was key for US withdrawal from South Vietnam, Nixon sought a summit between himself and Mao. Nixon dispatched Henry Kissinger to secret talks with the PRC’s foreign minister Chou En-lai to lay the groundwork for the visit. Capitalizing on deteriorating Sino-Soviet relations, Nixon scored perhaps the greatest diplomatic coup of the Cold War. The Shanghai Communique that followed the summit danced around several fundamental disagreements between the two countries, including Taiwan and Vietnam. However, it was clear that the Soviet Union could no longer depend upon Chinese support in regional conflicts. While Nixon expressed his desire to fully normalize relations between the two countries quickly, Watergate interrupted these plans. It would fall to Jimmy Carter to restore full diplomatic relations between the two countries.
American discards Nixon Plays the China Card*
* U.S. Die = [3] *** <American>
* Quagmire* cancelled.
Soviet Action Round 2
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
Congrats on escaping the Quagmire. I know you guys are anxious to jam my face in a Bear Trap, but before you do, I think we need to talk about America's crippling jealousy of the USSR.
Missile Envy.
Gimme dem Ops, Americanskis!
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
Take that (3 ops for you) NATO and give us that specifics...
@Iron Weasel
Geth roll 1d6+3 for Coup Coup Train
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
@Preda and @ Kirindal
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
MIssile Envy for Ops
+1 in India
+1 in Pakistan
@Iron Weasel
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
A term coined by Dr. Helen Caldicott, it reflects the general feminist critique that the Cold War was driven by male ego with very Freudian undercurrents. When one examines the terminology of “deep penetration” and “multiple reentry” one wonders if she had a point. Caldicott went on to found Physicians for Social Responsibility, and her book became a rallying point within the anti-nuclear movement.
The second part of the US strategy to rebuild Europe, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) became synonymous with the West’s opposition to the Soviet Union. An oft repeated maxim for NATO’s purpose captures it nicely: “NATO was created to keep the Soviets out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”
A physician, Salvador Allende was popularly elected in Chile to lead that nation’s first socialist government. Allende moved quickly to socialize copper production— Chile’s largest export commodity. The mines were largely held by two US companies, Kennecott and Anaconda. Relations with the US soon turned frosty, and the CIA supported an attempted coup in 1970. It failed. However, as the West applied harsh economic sanctions, the Allende regime floundered in its second and third years. In 1973, the military, led by Augusto Pinochet, deposed Allende with a bloody assault on the presidential palace. Allende took his own life.
American Action Round 3
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
Ops for Realigning Pakistan
Geth roll 1d6+4 for Realigning Pakistan
Geth roll 1d6+4 for Realigning Pakistan
Edit: Hmm, Geth seems to have gone to sleep.
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
* American changes DefCon to 4.
* Coups and realignments now allowed in Asia.
*** American plays card for 4 Ops.
*** American initiates realignment in Pakistan.
* American roll modifier: +4
* Soviet roll modifier: +0
* U.S. Die = [5] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <American>
* Removing 4 Soviet Influence from Pakistan.
*
* 3 Ops remaining for Realignment.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
* American roll modifier: +3
* Soviet roll modifier: +1
* U.S. Die = [4] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <American>
* Removing 3 Soviet Influence from Iraq.
*
* 2 Ops remaining for Realignment.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
This time I will not fall asleep before putting the last conditional in PM...
* American roll modifier: +3
* Soviet roll modifier: +0
* U.S. Die = [2] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [2] *** <American>
* Removing 3 Soviet Influence from India.
*
* 1 Ops remaining for Realignment.
*
*** American initiates realignment in Chile.
* American roll modifier: +0
* Soviet roll modifier: +1
* U.S. Die = [1] *** <American>
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <American>
* Already zero American influence in Chile.
*
* 0 Ops remaining for Realignment.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
@Preda and @Kirindal
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
+2 South Africa
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227
-2 Soviet Influence in Chile
-1 Soviet Influence in Cuba
-1 Soviet Influence in Thailand
@Iron Weasel
The Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty sought to cement the system of mutually assured destruction as the lynchpin of strategic balance. The ABM treaty restricted the ability of the two superpowers to defend themselves from nuclear strike. In theory, this made a first strike to prevent the introduction of destabilizing defensive systems unnecessary. Both nations were allowed to defend either their capital or one field of ICBMs with a missile defense system. The Soviets deployed such a system around Moscow. Ultimately, the US abandoned its system deployed in Grand Forks, North Dakota.
The racist, minority government of South Africa began to be challenged by the African National Congress with Soviet and Cuban assistance from bases in Tanzania and Zambia and other “front-line” states. The era of peaceful resistance formally ended with the massacres in Sharpeville and Langa. For its part, South Africa sought to destabilize its neighbors, and undertook an invasion of Namibia, while also supporting UNITA in Angola and FRELIMO in Mozambique. However, increasing black population, more powerful black trade unions, and hostility from other western nations eventually placed South Africa on the defensive. While the Reagan Administration pursued a policy of “constructive engagement” with the Apartheid government, it remained a controversial proposition. Ultimately, the collapse of the eastern bloc made P.W. Botha’s release of Nelson Mandela inevitable.
Formed in 1942 under the War Information Office, the VOA initially broadcast war news into Nazi occupied Europe. In 1947, it altered its mission to begin broadcasting into the Soviet Union. Voice of America has become one of the best known international broadcast efforts in the world. It provided a powerful outside link to the state-controlled media systems of the Eastern Bloc. Together with Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia, Voice of America became a hallmark of US public diplomacy efforts during the Cold War.
Soviet Action Round 5
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
+1 Thailand
The Division, Warframe (XB1)
GT: Tanith 6227