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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Is the woman Thor going to have good stories? If yes, awesome if no, it'll go away.

    Who cares beyond that?
    If that was really all it was, would it have been announced on the View?

    Its a stunt, and a silly one. I don't read Thor so it doesn't effect me, but let's not pretend its not a calculated move

    what do do you mean by this

    isn't literally everything comic book companies do a calculated move?

    at the end of the day they want you to buy their comics

    Seriously. Be glad that their calculations show that the readers they'll gain from this will outweigh the ones they'll lose. People being shitty about getting what they want baffles me to no end.

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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »

    Guess I am skipping PAX East

    Noooo

    who will collect money at the dinner?

    Never again. Group dining gives me anxiety

    Look, I'll do it, but it's going to involve a spreadsheet.

    Do you want a spreadsheet at the dinner?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Lotta people in this thread who don't read comics and don't know shit about them having nonetheless strong opinions on what they think comics are doing and should be doing.

    Interesting.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    and "calculated move" seems negative

    is the negative thing that they're reinventing a character to be (problematically) more gender inclusive among superhero books?

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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    oh God. It's starting.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »

    Guess I am skipping PAX East

    Noooo

    who will collect money at the dinner?

    Never again. Group dining gives me anxiety

    Look, I'll do it, but it's going to involve a spreadsheet.

    Do you want a spreadsheet at the dinner?

    more than anything

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    oh God. It's starting.

    the weatherman weren't kidding when they sent your phone a flash flood warning

    but they said nothing about

    the brown rain

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    So I sent my resume to the "badger lovers get bonus points" place.

    They just e-mailed me back, to tell me they got my e-mail...

    Except they didn't put my name in the e-mail... they put someone else's name there...

    i don't know how to feel.

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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »

    Guess I am skipping PAX East

    Noooo

    who will collect money at the dinner?

    Never again. Group dining gives me anxiety

    Look, I'll do it, but it's going to involve a spreadsheet.

    Do you want a spreadsheet at the dinner?

    i eat spreads of sheet like you for dinner

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Deebs I demand you live tweet your procedure tomorrow. I want to know when he's piping through your duodenum in real fucking time

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Is the woman Thor going to have good stories? If yes, awesome if no, it'll go away.

    Who cares beyond that?
    If that was really all it was, would it have been announced on the View?

    Its a stunt, and a silly one. I don't read Thor so it doesn't effect me, but let's not pretend its not a calculated move

    what do do you mean by this

    isn't literally everything comic book companies do a calculated move?

    at the end of the day they want you to buy their comics

    Yeah but its not "we want to make the best stories and the best story is Thor is now a woman."

    Its "we want to reach out to a broader demographic so changing one of our core characters to a woman for a year before reverting back to the old ways will generate publicity enough to help achieve that end."

    The former doesn't require an announcement on the View, a daily talk show primarily aimed at female viewers.

    If anyone thinks this is a permanent move, or something that is even likely to still be in effect when Thor 3 comes out (2015/2016), they are IMO being naive.

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    People who talk about cleansing toxins and shit and buy these weird vodoo snake oils are silly. you can go to the drug store right now, buy some magnesium citrate for like....3 bucks? 5? drink it, and experience the cleansing of a lifetime.

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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    People who talk about cleansing toxins and shit and buy these weird vodoo snake oils are silly. you can go to the drug store right now, buy some magnesium citrate for like....3 bucks? 5? drink it, and experience the cleansing of a lifetime.

    it was $12
    The ducoloxoensjdnsxwhatever was another $12

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    I think female Thor is fine and a good thing but it is absolutely a calculated grab at new and female readership, and like all things comic book, will go back to the way they were within 12 months.

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    MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    So I sent my resume to the "badger lovers get bonus points" place.

    They just e-mailed me back, to tell me they got my e-mail...

    Except they didn't put my name in the e-mail... they put someone else's name there...

    i don't know how to feel.

    Depending on the pay, you might have to change your name.

    Move to New Zealand
    It’s not a very important country most of the time
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Is the woman Thor going to have good stories? If yes, awesome if no, it'll go away.

    Who cares beyond that?
    If that was really all it was, would it have been announced on the View?

    Its a stunt, and a silly one. I don't read Thor so it doesn't effect me, but let's not pretend its not a calculated move

    what do do you mean by this

    isn't literally everything comic book companies do a calculated move?

    at the end of the day they want you to buy their comics

    Yeah but its not "we want to make the best stories and the best story is Thor is now a woman."

    Its "we want to reach out to a broader demographic so changing one of our core characters to a woman for a year before reverting back to the old ways will generate publicity enough to help achieve that end."

    The former doesn't require an announcement on the View, a daily talk show primarily aimed at female viewers.

    If anyone thinks this is a permanent move, or something that is even likely to still be in effect when Thor 3 comes out (2015/2016), they are IMO being naive.

    If anyone thinks any change to a comic book character is permanent then they are being naive. No one who has brought it up seems to be under the impression that this is a permanent change.

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    I slept for 14 hours but now my headache is gone yay

    did you chug water before and after? 12-14 hr sleeps always dehydrate me

    yep

    also i awoke in a pile of animals

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Marvel's big publicity event for the summer is the Death of Wolverine and Original Sin. This is just the current writer on an existing series making a change.

    Dear Marvel,

    These are derpy events. Just tell everyone to read She-Hulk and Silver Surfer this summer.

    Best regards,
    Desc

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    GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    So I sent my resume to the "badger lovers get bonus points" place.

    They just e-mailed me back, to tell me they got my e-mail...

    Except they didn't put my name in the e-mail... they put someone else's name there...

    i don't know how to feel.

    You feel used.

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    People who talk about cleansing toxins and shit and buy these weird vodoo snake oils are silly. you can go to the drug store right now, buy some magnesium citrate for like....3 bucks? 5? drink it, and experience the cleansing of a lifetime.

    something that has always seemed fishy to me is that these so called "cleansing" processes seem like they would be just as likely to remove all the stuff in your gut that you need to not shit bricks and generally live as stuff that might be causing problems.

    Attacked by tweeeeeeees!
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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    I hadn't listened to the words for Chocolate Rain in a long time.

    He was probably p mad when he wrote this song, huh.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think female Thor is fine and a good thing but it is absolutely a calculated grab at new and female readership, and like all things comic book, will go back to the way they were within 12 months.

    Fuck that, Peter Parker sucks. Marvel, bring back Superior Spider-Man!

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Is the woman Thor going to have good stories? If yes, awesome if no, it'll go away.

    Who cares beyond that?
    If that was really all it was, would it have been announced on the View?

    Its a stunt, and a silly one. I don't read Thor so it doesn't effect me, but let's not pretend its not a calculated move

    what do do you mean by this

    isn't literally everything comic book companies do a calculated move?

    at the end of the day they want you to buy their comics

    Yeah but its not "we want to make the best stories and the best story is Thor is now a woman."

    Its "we want to reach out to a broader demographic so changing one of our core characters to a woman for a year before reverting back to the old ways will generate publicity enough to help achieve that end."

    The former doesn't require an announcement on the View, a daily talk show primarily aimed at female viewers.

    If anyone thinks this is a permanent move, or something that is even likely to still be in effect when Thor 3 comes out (2015/2016), they are IMO being naive.

    What makes you think that Marvel, back in the golden age of comics, wasn't saying, "Girls don't read superhero comics. They read Archie. We need our heroes to embody manliness."

    This may surprise you, but Marvel comics is a business. And guess what, if they book does do well, there is no reason why it couldn't show up in a movie. Because 40 years ago you would have been among the chorus of people saying that Thor would never be a woman.

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Like, honestly, it's someone's job to reply to these e-mails... at least make sure you use the right name!

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think female Thor is fine and a good thing but it is absolutely a calculated grab at new and female readership, and like all things comic book, will go back to the way they were within 12 months.

    I think Peter Parker stayed dead for like 20 months.

    Was surprised they let it go that long but you know, Amazing 2 came out so....

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think female Thor is fine and a good thing but it is absolutely a calculated grab at new and female readership, and like all things comic book, will go back to the way they were within 12 months.

    I think Peter Parker stayed dead for like 20 months.

    Was surprised they let it go that long but you know, Amazing 2 came out so....

    Marvel doesn't have the movie rights to Spiderman.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    oh god, Tay Zonday never stopped.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liTUZO1ZoBU

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2014
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think female Thor is fine and a good thing but it is absolutely a calculated grab at new and female readership, and like all things comic book, will go back to the way they were within 12 months.

    Again - who the fuck cares. Unless you're reading creator owned content, everything is a push to get more people interested in the books. Why is their smugness about trying to get more female readership? It's kind of weirdly, misogynistic and douchetastically condescending.

    Vanguard on
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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Let's say the Female Thor book is good and everyone loves it. They will STILL bring back male Thor. They may do something shit ass stupid like make Moljinir clone itself and now there are two Thors

    But still.

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think female Thor is fine and a good thing but it is absolutely a calculated grab at new and female readership, and like all things comic book, will go back to the way they were within 12 months.

    Again - who the fuck cares. Unless you're reading creator owned content, everything is a push to get more people interested in the books. Why is their smugness about trying to get more female readership? It's kind of weirdly, misogynistic and douchetastically condescending.

    i was on board with the female thor thing full blast until I read they revealed the news on The View.
    I want more females interested in comics

    but you know

    not THOSE females.

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Let's say the Female Thor book is good and everyone loves it. They will STILL bring back male Thor. They may do something shit ass stupid like make Moljinir clone itself and now there are two Thors

    But still.

    Is that gonna be for the back-to-school months? Two Thors?

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Let's say the Female Thor book is good and everyone loves it. They will STILL bring back male Thor. They may do something shit ass stupid like make Moljinir clone itself and now there are two Thors

    But still.

    I would watch that Thor on Thor action.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Let's say the Female Thor book is good and everyone loves it. They will STILL bring back male Thor. They may do something shit ass stupid like make Moljinir clone itself and now there are two Thors

    But still.

    Sure, like they've handled multiple Thor's before. There are enough knock off Mjölnirs in the MU to outfit a carpenter's union.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Are any ladies here who don't currently read Thor comics going to pick up issues after the change occurs? Anyone curious?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    A few years ago, Peter Parker died in the comics. Now, he only died in the Ultimate continuity, a spin-off universe created over ten years ago as a "re-imagining" of the Marvel universe. He didn't die in the main "616" continuity.

    But he still died, and rather than bring him back from the dead Marvel replaced him with Miles Morales, a mixed-race teenager from New York with his own super powers who took up the identity of Spider-Man, having been inspired by Peter's life and heroism.

    Marvel made a big announcement about this, since it was a new Spider-Man it was a big deal! Even if it was the "B side" continuity Spider-Man, it was still a thing!

    This caused some people, most of whom don't read comics, to get their shit in a twist over this "calculated move" and "publicity stunt". A lot of noise was made over the fact that the new Spider-Man was black-hispanic (or just "black" to people who didn't really give a shit about being mad) and some said "Clearly this is just Marvel trying to pandering to black youth and the liberal market especially with this tokenism. They didn't have to change Spider-Man to be black, but I guess that's the PC thing to do now."

    This was the argument people like Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs, racist conservative pieces of shit who otherwise don't say a god damn thing about comics, we're fond of.

    And it's what a few of you sound like about the new Thor, especially those of you who don't read comics and cynically are allergic to people "making a fuss"

    So consider if that's the side of things you want to be on.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I win, I fucking win. I decided to Google for this news story in the style of Fox News. "thor is a woman now."


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    I have synchronised.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    Chat chat chat
    want to know if dice rolls in a spoiler work

    Geth roll 2d6

    Let us see.

    And now I know.

    Jam Warrior on
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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think female Thor is fine and a good thing but it is absolutely a calculated grab at new and female readership, and like all things comic book, will go back to the way they were within 12 months.

    Again - who the fuck cares. Unless you're reading creator owned content, everything is a push to get more people interested in the books. Why is their smugness about trying to get more female readership? It's kind of weirdly, misogynistic and douchetastically condescending.

    i was on board with the female thor thing full blast until I read they revealed the news on The View.
    I want more females interested in comics

    but you know

    not THOSE females.

    ?

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