Raw honey is so much better than pasteurized honey, lordy lordy
Like Maple Syrup, chances are good that the "Honey" you find in grocery stores is HFCS, in the US.
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Um, kinda, there's usually a couple choices and as long as you read the labels closely and don't buy the cheap stuff you should be fine. Maple syrup is a bit tougher but the stores around here at least stock both.
My parents always had tons of bees hanging around the lavender and rosemary bushes in their yard, so about a year and half ago my sister and I chipped in on a beekeeping starter kit for my dad. After lots of research he finally got it all set up and populated. Here's us going to check them out for the first time.
I just realized all the photos I took of the hive itself are on his phone, not mine. I'll have to try and get those soon.
"If complete and utter chaos was lightning, then he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are bastards'."
"If complete and utter chaos was lightning, then he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are bastards'."
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#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
Raw honey is so much better than pasteurized honey, lordy lordy
Like Maple Syrup, chances are good that the "Honey" you find in grocery stores is HFCS, in the US.
this is pretty melodramatic
Honey with any kind of added sweetener must be labelled as a Honey Blend and more than a certain percent can't be labelled as honey at all.
"Maple Syrup" must be made from maple sap, again anything containing less than a certain percent (In canada I believe it's 80%) can't be called maple. It's usually called "Table Syrup" or "Pancake Syrup"
I mean, people do get fined for mislabeling and misrepresenting their product, but "chances are" is kind of overblown unless you buy all of your honey and syrup at the dollar store.
Raw honey is so much better than pasteurized honey, lordy lordy
Like Maple Syrup, chances are good that the "Honey" you find in grocery stores is HFCS, in the US.
this is pretty melodramatic
Honey with any kind of added sweetener must be labelled as a Honey Blend and more than a certain percent can't be labelled as honey at all.
"Maple Syrup" must be made from maple sap, again anything containing less than a certain percent (In canada I believe it's 80%) can't be called maple. It's usually called "Table Syrup" or "Pancake Syrup"
I mean, people do get fined for mislabeling and misrepresenting their product, but "chances are" is kind of overblown unless you buy all of your honey and syrup at the dollar store.
Yeah...finding real honey and maple syrup is trivial, even at Wal-Mart.
Raw honey is so much better than pasteurized honey, lordy lordy
Like Maple Syrup, chances are good that the "Honey" you find in grocery stores is HFCS, in the US.
this is pretty melodramatic
Honey with any kind of added sweetener must be labelled as a Honey Blend and more than a certain percent can't be labelled as honey at all.
"Maple Syrup" must be made from maple sap, again anything containing less than a certain percent (In canada I believe it's 80%) can't be called maple. It's usually called "Table Syrup" or "Pancake Syrup"
I have seen stuff like "Pancake Syrup - Maple Flavor", but that's about as misleading as it gets, I think.
Raw honey is so much better than pasteurized honey, lordy lordy
Like Maple Syrup, chances are good that the "Honey" you find in grocery stores is HFCS, in the US.
this is pretty melodramatic
Honey with any kind of added sweetener must be labelled as a Honey Blend and more than a certain percent can't be labelled as honey at all.
"Maple Syrup" must be made from maple sap, again anything containing less than a certain percent (In canada I believe it's 80%) can't be called maple. It's usually called "Table Syrup" or "Pancake Syrup"
I mean, people do get fined for mislabeling and misrepresenting their product, but "chances are" is kind of overblown unless you buy all of your honey and syrup at the dollar store.
From the article I posted at the top of the page.
Chinese honey has long had a poor reputation in the U.S., where – in 2001 – the Federal Trade Commission imposed stiff import tariffs or taxes to stop the Chinese from flooding the marketplace with dirt-cheap, heavily subsidized honey, which was forcing American beekeepers out of business.
To avoid the dumping tariffs, the Chinese quickly began transshipping honey to several other countries, then laundering it by switching the color of the shipping drums, the documents and labels to indicate a bogus but tariff-free country of origin for the honey.
Most U.S. honey buyers knew about the Chinese actions because of the sudden availability of lower cost honey, and little was said.
The FDA — either because of lack of interest or resources — devoted little effort to inspecting imported honey. Nevertheless, the agency had occasionally either been told of, or had stumbled upon, Chinese honey contaminated with chloramphenicol and other illegal animal antibiotics which are dangerous, even fatal, to a very small percentage of the population.
Mostly, the adulteration went undetected. Sometimes FDA caught it.
In one instance 10 years ago, contaminated Chinese honey was shipped to Canada and then on to a warehouse in Houston where it was sold to jelly maker J.M. Smuckers and the national baker Sara Lee.
By the time the FDA said it realized the Chinese honey was tainted, Smuckers had sold 12,040 cases of individually packed honey to Ritz-Carlton Hotels and Sara Lee said it may have been used in a half-million loaves of bread that were on store shelves.
The FDA is really bad at testing the foods, and the people who package the product have been taking things at face value when they're sold "100% honey" from overseas. They're likewise supposed to be testing for pollen count in honey but the tested samples contained none at all, which the FDA says should mean that it can't be labeled as honey. Guess what, it is. Not having pollen doesn't just mean an aesthetic change either, it means that it has been through a process that removes water and then reduces the honey with various other substances, such as HFCS. The labels don't really mean much when the FDA isn't enforcing the laws on it.
Additionally HFCS has been fed to bees in the process of making honey, which has changed the content of the honey as well as led to the dying off of colonies..
No offense Dewd, but KEVINMD, "social media's leading physician voice", quotes WebMD as a source
So....
Yeah no
So that only cuts out this portion of the post
Additionally HFCS has been fed to bees in the process of making honey, which has changed the content of the honey as well as led to the dying off of colonies..
and doesn't even touch the fact that the FDA has consistently failed in enforcing labeling procedures.
Also the only portion cited to Wed-MD is an article about how the medical benefits of honey are overstated (which was reviewed by a physician and medical editor), nothing about the process of honey making or anything else in the article.
That reminds me, my mom is sending me a few jars of honey and some rhubarb preserve she made from Alaska. I should ask her if she knows where the honey is from.
No offense Dewd, but KEVINMD, "social media's leading physician voice", quotes WebMD as a source
So....
Yeah no
So that only cuts out this portion of the post
Additionally HFCS has been fed to bees in the process of making honey, which has changed the content of the honey as well as led to the dying off of colonies..
and doesn't even touch the fact that the FDA has consistently failed in enforcing labeling procedures.
Also the only portion cited to Wed-MD is an article about how the medical benefits of honey are overstated (which was reviewed by a physician and medical editor), nothing about the process of honey making or anything else in the article.
It was a general statement about the veracity of KevinMD as a source
He says "research shows" but then cites FoodSafetyNews.com, WebMD.com, Phys.org, and Salsalabs.com to draw conclusions to a relationship between HFCS and honeybees
He cites one PNAS study that suggests "The widespread apicultural use of honey substitutes, including high-fructose corn syrup, may thus compromise the ability of honey bees to cope with pesticides and pathogens and contribute to colony losses".
So a single study from an (assumed, it doesn't mention who funded it) unbiased scientific source, no links to NIH(or similar)-sponsored research, of which there is a ton.
I'm not disputing that maybe he's got some sort of correctness about this theory, just that a blog post is not fact especially when it's citing suspect places
Related: I get really fucking angry at sensationalist science reporting
Did you hear about the five different cancer cures we found this morning?
Pretty great news!
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I know people in a Facebook group I use who are rabid antivaxxers, and they tend to point to this like pundit blog posts as primary research, which just, oh god, as someone who actually knows how to do research and what a primary source is, aurghleblargh
so bad for my blood pressure
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
Related: I get really fucking angry at sensationalist science reporting
Sensationalist reporting about food is the new hotness, which makes me instantly super suspicious of sites with names like food safety news.
And headlines like "Most store honey isn't honey"
They go on to clarify that when they say "Isn't Honey" they mean it's honey that's been processed
And leading claims like "More than three-fourths of the honey sold in U.S. grocery stores"
which they actually never clarify they actually mean "more than three fourths of the brands of honey"
this is a big distiction when 1 or 2% of the brands hold 80 or 90 percent of the market share!
"three fourths of the honey sold" then turns out to be "5% of the honey sold"
Sensationalism!
but is the honey gluten free????
I need to know because little aiden and madison have a slight gluten intolerance because I saw a special on doctor oz and asked a friend of mine and she said I should kill myself for being a piece of shit yuppy
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Raw honey is so much better than pasteurized honey, lordy lordy
Like Maple Syrup, chances are good that the "Honey" you find in grocery stores is HFCS, in the US.
My parents always had tons of bees hanging around the lavender and rosemary bushes in their yard, so about a year and half ago my sister and I chipped in on a beekeeping starter kit for my dad. After lots of research he finally got it all set up and populated. Here's us going to check them out for the first time.
I just realized all the photos I took of the hive itself are on his phone, not mine. I'll have to try and get those soon.
Nowadays, I just assume all prepackaged food is fake.
WoW
Dear Satan.....
The hive.
Close up.
this is pretty melodramatic
Honey with any kind of added sweetener must be labelled as a Honey Blend and more than a certain percent can't be labelled as honey at all.
"Maple Syrup" must be made from maple sap, again anything containing less than a certain percent (In canada I believe it's 80%) can't be called maple. It's usually called "Table Syrup" or "Pancake Syrup"
I mean, people do get fined for mislabeling and misrepresenting their product, but "chances are" is kind of overblown unless you buy all of your honey and syrup at the dollar store.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
and instead, buy this:
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Yeah...finding real honey and maple syrup is trivial, even at Wal-Mart.
I have seen stuff like "Pancake Syrup - Maple Flavor", but that's about as misleading as it gets, I think.
From the article I posted at the top of the page.
The FDA is really bad at testing the foods, and the people who package the product have been taking things at face value when they're sold "100% honey" from overseas. They're likewise supposed to be testing for pollen count in honey but the tested samples contained none at all, which the FDA says should mean that it can't be labeled as honey. Guess what, it is. Not having pollen doesn't just mean an aesthetic change either, it means that it has been through a process that removes water and then reduces the honey with various other substances, such as HFCS. The labels don't really mean much when the FDA isn't enforcing the laws on it.
Additionally HFCS has been fed to bees in the process of making honey, which has changed the content of the honey as well as led to the dying off of colonies..
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2013/08/disturbing-link-high-fructose-corn-syrup-honey.html
So....
Yeah no
So that only cuts out this portion of the post
and doesn't even touch the fact that the FDA has consistently failed in enforcing labeling procedures.
Also the only portion cited to Wed-MD is an article about how the medical benefits of honey are overstated (which was reviewed by a physician and medical editor), nothing about the process of honey making or anything else in the article.
It was a general statement about the veracity of KevinMD as a source
He says "research shows" but then cites FoodSafetyNews.com, WebMD.com, Phys.org, and Salsalabs.com to draw conclusions to a relationship between HFCS and honeybees
He cites one PNAS study that suggests "The widespread apicultural use of honey substitutes, including high-fructose corn syrup, may thus compromise the ability of honey bees to cope with pesticides and pathogens and contribute to colony losses".
So a single study from an (assumed, it doesn't mention who funded it) unbiased scientific source, no links to NIH(or similar)-sponsored research, of which there is a ton.
I'm not disputing that maybe he's got some sort of correctness about this theory, just that a blog post is not fact especially when it's citing suspect places
PNAS
makes me giggle every time
Did you hear about the five different cancer cures we found this morning?
Pretty great news!
so bad for my blood pressure
Sensationalist reporting about food is the new hotness, which makes me instantly super suspicious of sites with names like food safety news.
And headlines like "Most store honey isn't honey"
They go on to clarify that when they say "Isn't Honey" they mean it's honey that's been processed
And leading claims like "More than three-fourths of the honey sold in U.S. grocery stores"
which they actually never clarify they actually mean "more than three fourths of the brands of honey"
this is a big distiction when 1 or 2% of the brands hold 80 or 90 percent of the market share!
"three fourths of the honey sold" then turns out to be "5% of the honey sold"
Sensationalism!
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Is that honey?
I asked already! No one's answered me! They're hiding something! I've got an unlimited amount of exclamations!
No, that's bear juice
nic...
but is the honey gluten free????
I need to know because little aiden and madison have a slight gluten intolerance because I saw a special on doctor oz and asked a friend of mine and she said I should kill myself for being a piece of shit yuppy
Can't make pizza without gluten
I would probably be pretty considerate of their needs though. I'm lactose intolerant. I always ask for less cheese and never drink milk myself.
celiac's on the otherhand
Yeah either way if someone doesn't want gluten stuff I'd be fine with that too probably.
I've had some shitty ass pizza before though so as long as it's cheese sauce and some kind of base I'll probably eat it.
So how long have you been making Emotion Chips, @Tynic?
stay away from my ...nectar
Ever since we worked out how to breed sadness into potatoes.