Book 4 of the Dark Tower is King's best plotted long work by far. It was like he wrote it in the throes of demonic possession. All the stuff he normally eschews, the foreshadowing and really well-timed intersecting character arcs and mounting tension, are present in spades, and it builds and builds until it finally explodes in something that feels as horrible and yet perfectly inevitable as a Greek tragedy.
Right, it definitely stands out in the series which, up until that point, was kind of a suspenseful fantasy thriller. As I recall the ending of book 3, very beginning of book 4 was:
Roland and crew on a bullet train controlled by a psychotic AI that would maybe kill them all if they didn't best the AI in a game of riddles?
How you move from that to Wizard and Glass is a mystery to me.
He took a long time between books 1-3 and book 4, I think. Then even longer until he finished the god damn series.
It was at least 20 years. I think more.
WTF is going on in The Dark Tower is ... an interesting topic.
Book 4 of the Dark Tower is King's best plotted long work by far. It was like he wrote it in the throes of demonic possession. All the stuff he normally eschews, the foreshadowing and really well-timed intersecting character arcs and mounting tension, are present in spades, and it builds and builds until it finally explodes in something that feels as horrible and yet perfectly inevitable as a Greek tragedy.
Right, it definitely stands out in the series which, up until that point, was kind of a suspenseful fantasy thriller. As I recall the ending of book 3, very beginning of book 4 was:
Roland and crew on a bullet train controlled by a psychotic AI that would maybe kill them all if they didn't best the AI in a game of riddles?
How you move from that to Wizard and Glass is a mystery to me.
He took a long time between books 1-3 and book 4, I think. Then even longer until he finished the god damn series.
It was at least 20 years. I think more.
WTF is going on in The Dark Tower is ... an interesting topic.
I think you're right, and probably coincides with him kicking his cocaine habit?
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I wonder if The Dark Tower would work better if you put the flashback after book 1, obviously would have to change up the intro outro but maybe it wouldn't disrupt the pacing as much. Plus it might fit better with the delirium of the beginning of the second book?
Book 4 of the Dark Tower is King's best plotted long work by far. It was like he wrote it in the throes of demonic possession. All the stuff he normally eschews, the foreshadowing and really well-timed intersecting character arcs and mounting tension, are present in spades, and it builds and builds until it finally explodes in something that feels as horrible and yet perfectly inevitable as a Greek tragedy.
Right, it definitely stands out in the series which, up until that point, was kind of a suspenseful fantasy thriller. As I recall the ending of book 3, very beginning of book 4 was:
Roland and crew on a bullet train controlled by a psychotic AI that would maybe kill them all if they didn't best the AI in a game of riddles?
How you move from that to Wizard and Glass is a mystery to me.
He took a long time between books 1-3 and book 4, I think. Then even longer until he finished the god damn series.
It was at least 20 years. I think more.
WTF is going on in The Dark Tower is ... an interesting topic.
I think you're right, and probably coincides with him kicking his cocaine habit?
Maybe. He wrote a lot of other stuff in between since he's crazy prolific.
I think he actually realized he had to finish it after that guy almost killed him when he was out walking along.
So of course
he wrote that into the story........ and made the guy an accidental agent of the bad guys
and yeah a significant number of problems with the early Stephen King books are "lol cocaine" and many of the problems with his later books are "lol recovery"
you really can't win if you judge an author by that standard
and yeah a significant number of problems with the early Stephen King books are "lol cocaine" and many of the problems with his later books are "lol recovery"
you really can't win if you judge an author by that standard
he wrote the tommyknockers in one cocaine fueled weekend!! he does not remember writing it
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and yeah a significant number of problems with the early Stephen King books are "lol cocaine" and many of the problems with his later books are "lol recovery"
you really can't win if you judge an author by that standard
he wrote the tommyknockers in one cocaine fueled weekend!! he does not remember writing it
I got that book as a gift when I was a kid. I should try re-reading it now.
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I wonder if The Dark Tower would work better if you put the flashback after book 1, obviously would have to change up the intro outro but maybe it wouldn't disrupt the pacing as much. Plus it might fit better with the delirium of the beginning of the second book?
The comics from marvel are an interesting take on mixing things up...
The comics are damn-near 100% following the chronological order of events:
Mejis, The rebellion and the Fall of Gilead, Jericho Hill, Little Sisters, Tull and onward.
They have been a good read, but I feel like so much of the mystery of who Roland is in Tull is lost when you already understand everything he has gone through.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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and yeah a significant number of problems with the early Stephen King books are "lol cocaine" and many of the problems with his later books are "lol recovery"
you really can't win if you judge an author by that standard
Yeah definitely, I was just positing it as a reason for the change in style, good or bad.
The criticisms I had of those books were from over a decade ago, in my teenage years. They are not weighty, intellectual, well considered positions.
Probably more like, "hey, why hasn't Roland mowed down an entire town of people recently. This shit is BORING"
Book 4 of the Dark Tower is King's best plotted long work by far. It was like he wrote it in the throes of demonic possession. All the stuff he normally eschews, the foreshadowing and really well-timed intersecting character arcs and mounting tension, are present in spades, and it builds and builds until it finally explodes in something that feels as horrible and yet perfectly inevitable as a Greek tragedy.
Right, it definitely stands out in the series which, up until that point, was kind of a suspenseful fantasy thriller. As I recall the ending of book 3, very beginning of book 4 was:
Roland and crew on a bullet train controlled by a psychotic AI that would maybe kill them all if they didn't best the AI in a game of riddles?
How you move from that to Wizard and Glass is a mystery to me.
He took a long time between books 1-3 and book 4, I think. Then even longer until he finished the god damn series.
It was at least 20 years. I think more.
WTF is going on in The Dark Tower is ... an interesting topic.
I think you're right, and probably coincides with him kicking his cocaine habit?
Maybe. He wrote a lot of other stuff in between since he's crazy prolific.
I think he actually realized he had to finish it after that guy almost killed him when he was out walking along.
So of course
he wrote that into the story........ and made the guy an accidental agent of the bad guys
this specific thing is like the one thing I found just absolutely teeth-grindingly fremdschamen - ish (thanks for the SAT word, Pony!)
like really cringe-inducing and hard to read but not in a "this material is difficult" way
I wonder if The Dark Tower would work better if you put the flashback after book 1, obviously would have to change up the intro outro but maybe it wouldn't disrupt the pacing as much. Plus it might fit better with the delirium of the beginning of the second book?
The comics from marvel are an interesting take on mixing things up...
The comics are damn-near 100% following the chronological order of events:
Mejis, The rebellion and the Fall of Gilead, Jericho Hill, Little Sisters, Tull and onward.
They have been a good read, but I feel like so much of the mystery of who Roland is in Tull is lost when you already understand everything he has gone through.
I think once youve gotten through the 7 (and Wind was p excellent, imo, as it was most of the shit I loved best) it's fine to supplement that and eliminate some of the mystery, but yeah I doubt you'd be interested if you filled up on those before 7.
I do find it interesting that Deebs tunes out on games where we have to work together, and stands up and yells and plots incessantly on games where we have to fuck each other over.
I dunno if it says anything important, but it is a fun drunk/stoned observation.
I wanted to work together. I would have gotten 18 points for just making it to shore. I was betrayed early by haters and psychos!
I was way too blasted and basic to really understand the other game.
Sometimes in those games keeping a low profile is the way to go.
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beasto and I went to a nice party on Saturday night and the hostess sent me a photo of us together which is uber kyoot
So I send it to beast and he's like "Aww"
"Did we do okay"
omg we weren't being graded on being party guests
I think you do OK at any given party if you don't throw up on the birthday boy and manage to not break too many fragile objects
the bar is pretty low
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I am so tired. I took unisom last night and then got a shitty night's sleep. I have been mainlining caffeine and it is barely helping. I bet my gym session is gonna be shit today
it's not at all like the movie (the movie is also awesome)
i love the bachmann books
I had a hardcover of the Bachman books in high school
I read Rage like the week before Columbine happened
to say that this fundamentally fucked up my worldview would put it mildly
The Running Man was excellent but the one that stuck with me was definitely The Long Walk
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He took a long time between books 1-3 and book 4, I think. Then even longer until he finished the god damn series.
It was at least 20 years. I think more.
WTF is going on in The Dark Tower is ... an interesting topic.
I think you're right, and probably coincides with him kicking his cocaine habit?
dunked
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Maybe. He wrote a lot of other stuff in between since he's crazy prolific.
I think he actually realized he had to finish it after that guy almost killed him when he was out walking along.
So of course
you really can't win if you judge an author by that standard
Uncanny Magazine!
The Mad Writers Union
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Dum-a-chum? Ded-a-chek? Did-a-chick?
shudder
he wrote the tommyknockers in one cocaine fueled weekend!! he does not remember writing it
Shave and a haircut ...
*tap tap*
... two bits.
You are dunked in a pool of your own sweat.
I got that book as a gift when I was a kid. I should try re-reading it now.
The comics from marvel are an interesting take on mixing things up...
The comics are damn-near 100% following the chronological order of events:
Mejis, The rebellion and the Fall of Gilead, Jericho Hill, Little Sisters, Tull and onward.
They have been a good read, but I feel like so much of the mystery of who Roland is in Tull is lost when you already understand everything he has gone through.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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Yeah definitely, I was just positing it as a reason for the change in style, good or bad.
The criticisms I had of those books were from over a decade ago, in my teenage years. They are not weighty, intellectual, well considered positions.
Probably more like, "hey, why hasn't Roland mowed down an entire town of people recently. This shit is BORING"
this specific thing is like the one thing I found just absolutely teeth-grindingly fremdschamen - ish (thanks for the SAT word, Pony!)
like really cringe-inducing and hard to read but not in a "this material is difficult" way
Uncanny Magazine!
The Mad Writers Union
snoring
but foot is falling asleep
wat do
I think once youve gotten through the 7 (and Wind was p excellent, imo, as it was most of the shit I loved best) it's fine to supplement that and eliminate some of the mystery, but yeah I doubt you'd be interested if you filled up on those before 7.
Uncanny Magazine!
The Mad Writers Union
it's not at all like the movie (the movie is also awesome)
i love the bachmann books
Sometimes in those games keeping a low profile is the way to go.
So I send it to beast and he's like "Aww"
"Did we do okay"
omg we weren't being graded on being party guests
I think you do OK at any given party if you don't throw up on the birthday boy and manage to not break too many fragile objects
the bar is pretty low
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Get doge
Time to get a ps4
I had a hardcover of the Bachman books in high school
I read Rage like the week before Columbine happened
to say that this fundamentally fucked up my worldview would put it mildly
The Running Man was excellent but the one that stuck with me was definitely The Long Walk
Uncanny Magazine!
The Mad Writers Union
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wow
i have date with my work crush wednesday after work.
C- "It's almost like Hakkes wasn't even aware they were being graded as party guests."
cool, I think