That last post took a long time to compose since I'm watching the game.
If everything is turning up Valve, what could possibly stop them? Only one thing - people not buying into the game. If people think the game isn't fair, either because the game is rigged, or because people think someone is cheating, they're not inclined to participate.
That's about the only thing Valve is afraid of. Fair or not doesn't matter - it's the perception of fairness. Anything that causes people to steer away from the Market is a huge loss for Valve.
I think that the internet has been for years on the path to creating what is essentially an electronic Necronomicon: A collection of blasphemous unrealities so perverse that to even glimpse at its contents, if but for a moment, is to irrevocably forfeit a portion of your sanity.
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I think that there may well be an exploit in the wild, and if so, Valve may have to either do a rollback/market purge (costing them who knows how much PR goodwill and potential claims) or just suck it up and give away some free games to whoever can create the most gems out of nothing. Either way, their big meta-event might be kinda hosed.
That last post took a long time to compose since I'm watching the game.
If everything is turning up Valve, what could possibly stop them? Only one thing - people not buying into the game. If people think the game isn't fair, either because the game is rigged, or because people think someone is cheating, they're not inclined to participate.
That's about the only thing Valve is afraid of. Fair or not doesn't matter - it's the perception of fairness. Anything that causes people to steer away from the Market is a huge loss for Valve.
Yeah, though at least if the games goes to $texas I can stock up cards.
Ooook...For giggles I put up an order for sacks of gems with my steam balance ($4.03) and now I have 134 sacks of gems.
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I guess...I'll..uh...maybe I'll try flipping some packs? Or something? Is that how this works?
If sacks of gems are that cheap no way in hell am I converting my emoticons and backgrounds to gems, and I feel like a dipshit turning a few spare cards into gems now.
That last post took a long time to compose since I'm watching the game.
If everything is turning up Valve, what could possibly stop them? Only one thing - people not buying into the game. If people think the game isn't fair, either because the game is rigged, or because people think someone is cheating, they're not inclined to participate.
That's about the only thing Valve is afraid of. Fair or not doesn't matter - it's the perception of fairness. Anything that causes people to steer away from the Market is a huge loss for Valve.
I don't recall any blowback from their idiotic summer-meta. The only reason my wishlist ballooned was because, hey, I might be one of the twenty or thirty who'd win games from the list. That I knew I had no real chance or that my 'team' only won once in 12 days makes no real difference.
I certainly don't begrudge them setting up and encouraging others to participate in a system wholly designed to put money into their own pockets. But it's all so brazenly transparent and so disheartening how little that even matters.
I'll get some gems because I've got a bunch of stuff I figured I'd hold onto in case of an odd price spike or something. Getting a unique badge is kind of like getting that years new Hallmark Christmas ornament. But I'll be arsed if I'm going to even think about the effort it'd take to get that profile theme.
Remember when during the summer game when people tried to break the game and give everyone a chance to win twice, Valve changed the rules just to fuck people over?
I don't quite understand what I'm doing, but I just turned less than $0.03 in gems to $0.51 of real cashmoney so....I guess I'll be doing this tonight instead of playing WoW?
EDIT: So is it safe to assume from this that the holiday meta won't be a badge crafting extravaganza again?
Should I keep my badges-to-be-crafted just in case?
I foresee not just a ban for the guy who's duping gems but also criminal charges if they try selling them for money because that's fraud or theft, depending how you look at things. Maybe both.
I foresee not just a ban for the guy who's duping gems but also criminal charges if they try selling them for money because that's fraud or theft, depending how you look at things. Maybe both.
It's possible, especially since you need to submit (admittedly possible to fake if you're dedicated enough) tax data at 200 transactions. I mean think of how much of a headache this is gonna be for Valve.
Let's say I put in a blind purchase order for a bunch of sacks that are filled by Mr. Duper. I do a straight trade of gems for games via the trade screen (correct me if they're not tradeable that way) to 3 different people for some indie games they have that I want. Those 3 people then use those gems to create booster packs to sell for more than the gems are worth.
Now imagine all the people involved in that chain of transactions are a group working together, using multiple steam accounts.
I doubt Valve has a magic Rewind button, so think of how much it would cost them to go back and trace all the duped gems. I highly doubt they have their own little ID numbers. Unless Valve anticipated a dupe bug and DID implement gem ID numbers and budgeted out the manpower pay to go through each transaction of gems and figure out if it was just someone ignorantly interacting with a duper in good faith or a laundering chain, it's far more economical to just ban the dupers and delete their accounts, while ignoring anyone who wasn't actually using the bug, unless the gem-laundering was super obvious.
I am honestly starting to find this whole thing fascinating.
Person whose inventory was posted earlier now banned. Wondering if they're going to partially roll back anything.
e: Honestly, at this point I'm wondering if the best option might just be to take a snapshot of what everyones' inventory/etc looked like yesterday and roll back - money transactions and all.
But anyway, for people who were wondering why we can't do anything like the 2011 year anymore? *points to this* With things like SAM out there, this is why.
Oh, I'm sure it'll start back up tomorrow when Valve's offices open back up and they devise a way to "get this event back on track".
Probably. Blatant cheating and rigging didn't stop this summers stuff, don't see why it'd shut this down. They've got 200k games to give away; I'm sure they'll just fix a few bugs, ban the obvious perpetrators, and probably people just kinda riding it with no obvious malice will keep what they've got.
Or they'll roll it all back and start over; but I highly doubt that. Steam store money isn't play money, there's a mess of accounting/tax issues that they'd have to deal with and I'm sure they'll be super choosy about what accounts they get into.
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Why am I getting spam messages from half my friends list with this link to Google Drive? I am not stupid enough to click it, but... what the hell happened?
Logging into Steam for the first time in a long time...
Why am I getting spam messages from half my friends list with this link to Google Drive? I am not stupid enough to click it, but... what the hell happened?
Mistakes were made.
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If everything is turning up Valve, what could possibly stop them? Only one thing - people not buying into the game. If people think the game isn't fair, either because the game is rigged, or because people think someone is cheating, they're not inclined to participate.
That's about the only thing Valve is afraid of. Fair or not doesn't matter - it's the perception of fairness. Anything that causes people to steer away from the Market is a huge loss for Valve.
If you ever need to talk to someone, feel free to message me. Yes, that includes you.
Yeah, though at least if the games goes to $texas I can stock up cards.
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hey guys
is this steam metagame Frog Fractions 2?
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I guess...I'll..uh...maybe I'll try flipping some packs? Or something? Is that how this works?
If sacks of gems are that cheap no way in hell am I converting my emoticons and backgrounds to gems, and I feel like a dipshit turning a few spare cards into gems now.
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I don't recall any blowback from their idiotic summer-meta. The only reason my wishlist ballooned was because, hey, I might be one of the twenty or thirty who'd win games from the list. That I knew I had no real chance or that my 'team' only won once in 12 days makes no real difference.
I certainly don't begrudge them setting up and encouraging others to participate in a system wholly designed to put money into their own pockets. But it's all so brazenly transparent and so disheartening how little that even matters.
I'll get some gems because I've got a bunch of stuff I figured I'd hold onto in case of an odd price spike or something. Getting a unique badge is kind of like getting that years new Hallmark Christmas ornament. But I'll be arsed if I'm going to even think about the effort it'd take to get that profile theme.
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EDIT: So is it safe to assume from this that the holiday meta won't be a badge crafting extravaganza again?
Should I keep my badges-to-be-crafted just in case?
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let me buy gems
steam pls
Just buy cards/emoticons on the market and turn them around for gems.
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sweet sweet juicy gaben justice
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It's possible, especially since you need to submit (admittedly possible to fake if you're dedicated enough) tax data at 200 transactions. I mean think of how much of a headache this is gonna be for Valve.
Let's say I put in a blind purchase order for a bunch of sacks that are filled by Mr. Duper. I do a straight trade of gems for games via the trade screen (correct me if they're not tradeable that way) to 3 different people for some indie games they have that I want. Those 3 people then use those gems to create booster packs to sell for more than the gems are worth.
Now imagine all the people involved in that chain of transactions are a group working together, using multiple steam accounts.
I doubt Valve has a magic Rewind button, so think of how much it would cost them to go back and trace all the duped gems. I highly doubt they have their own little ID numbers. Unless Valve anticipated a dupe bug and DID implement gem ID numbers and budgeted out the manpower pay to go through each transaction of gems and figure out if it was just someone ignorantly interacting with a duper in good faith or a laundering chain, it's far more economical to just ban the dupers and delete their accounts, while ignoring anyone who wasn't actually using the bug, unless the gem-laundering was super obvious.
I am honestly starting to find this whole thing fascinating.
edit:
Well there goes my fun for the night.
why spend 3 cents for 100 gems when you can spend 3 cents for 1000 gems
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Person whose inventory was posted earlier now banned. Wondering if they're going to partially roll back anything.
e: Honestly, at this point I'm wondering if the best option might just be to take a snapshot of what everyones' inventory/etc looked like yesterday and roll back - money transactions and all.
I haven't even been able to access the bag page in awhile now.
Wonder if those are people buying them or just the slow trickle of them being removed by Valve.
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I won't mind a rollback, honestly, if that does happen. This is all clearly borked right now.
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gems and bags are non marketable and there are currently 0 bags of gems for sale on the market
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Oh, I'm sure it'll start back up tomorrow when Valve's offices open back up and they devise a way to "get this event back on track".
And of course their fix will make it 5x worse.
Probably. Blatant cheating and rigging didn't stop this summers stuff, don't see why it'd shut this down. They've got 200k games to give away; I'm sure they'll just fix a few bugs, ban the obvious perpetrators, and probably people just kinda riding it with no obvious malice will keep what they've got.
Or they'll roll it all back and start over; but I highly doubt that. Steam store money isn't play money, there's a mess of accounting/tax issues that they'd have to deal with and I'm sure they'll be super choosy about what accounts they get into.
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the events around valve's sales are fucking terrible, have been for a while, and more than that are transparent money grabs
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Just wait until their economist publishes all those papers about how a few greedy enough can ruin the system for everyone.
Half-Life 3 is actually a global economic proposal for using Steam Cards as currency.
It's going to take absurdly too long to gem my 20 pages of junk in the ol' inventory.
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And here we go.
Gems are gone from peoples' inventory, it looks like.
That one Thanksgiving sale? Where you could buy Half-Life 2 in packs of twenty and such? Good times, good times.
Figures. Although you can still turn stuff into gems, and it's still giving your total gems, even if it's invisible.
I want another Potato Sack.
"Oh, here's a bunch of relatively unrelated games we've patched secret stuff into and have a sale going along with it tying into a new Valve release."
That thing was fun as hell.
Why am I getting spam messages from half my friends list with this link to Google Drive? I am not stupid enough to click it, but... what the hell happened?
Mistakes were made.
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