I feel like they won't "endorse" it, but who knows... besides the Khoo.
Well when I had the Winter-King mask made, I had to get a copyright waiver since the maker wouldn't do anything belonging to someone else's IP. He didn't want to be seen as profiting from their work without their permission.
If you are doing them through Cafe Press, is it an item you can just set up & people can just pay directly?
Yes, but I have two problems with that. One, they cost a lot more, because you don't get the bulk discount (costs about twice as much) and shared shipping fee, and two, I want these for forum members only. Otherwise, I feel we are stepping into PAs territory. It is their logo.
If you are doing them through Cafe Press, is it an item you can just set up & people can just pay directly?
Yes, but I have two problems with that. One, they cost a lot more, because you don't get the bulk discount (costs about twice as much) and shared shipping fee, and two, I want these for forum members only. Otherwise, I feel we are stepping into PAs territory. It is their logo.
You're more than welcome to make your own bags of course, but not with our logo. Sorry!
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So I suggest seeing how they look with the Pinnypals logo. I sent a follow-up about our use of Sir Thomas Kemper, and if that is an issue we have Brain Squirrels as our own IP.
The pinnypals logo, as I've come to understand it, is just the international stamp logo correct? I can send it with the Kemper also, but the circle portion of the stamp should have no issues whatsoever.
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this could be a opportunity for any forum members that have a creative side to them to make a new logo for the pinnypals that is ours and has no copyright problems with pinny arcade and then after all new logos have been logged all the other forum members could vote on them to get the new logo that we could use for anything we use for pinnypals going forward just an idea what dose everyone think
this could be a opportunity for any forum members that have a creative side to them to make a new logo for the pinnypals that is ours and has no copyright problems with pinny arcade and then after all new logos have been logged all the other forum members could vote on them to get the new logo that we could use for anything we use for pinnypals going forward just an idea what dose everyone think
I rather like our logo...soooo..I vote it stays as it. We already had a creative person on the forums make that one(and it was not me)
Edit: and we DID vote on that Logo when it was picked
One...why in the world would we ever use the incorrect stamp again. C'mon ya'll. That was a mistake to begin with.
Second, I still think Kemper is fine. They have seen us use it for almost a year and a half on things and anytime we use it they usually retweet it if we post it on Twitter. It is an artists rendition of Kemper, not one that they drew. Do you really think they are going to have any issue at all. O.o
Well the Kemper usage was ok'd along time ago, I had it ok'd before the site even launched but that was just for site imagery....once you get in to printing on to merchandise, I think that changes. So best not to use the Kemper.
The red stamp logo is ours, @manic2k partner made that for the site. (I also will never correct the spelling on the site, I just love it way too much, feel free to use corrected one for prints though haha)
I really like the red stamp and the Kemper stamp as the logo but I'm not opposed at all to changing the Kemper in the stamp in to a Brain Squirrel because then we can do merchandise for the site. There are a lot of talented artists among us and some custom gear to sport at PAX's could be pretty sweet if you ask me.
You'd rather have Khoo round people up at PAX and remove bags? Because he would not be alone. He has an Army (Enforcers), he has Acolytes (Josh, et al.) and above all, He Is Khoo.
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well why don't we use the logo for the pinnypals for the bags then. but will it cost more for the bag if you use a logo with a lot of different colors in it?
You'd rather have Khoo round people up at PAX and remove bags? Because he would not be alone. He has an Army (Enforcers), he has Acolytes (Josh, et al.) and above all, He Is Khoo.
Can you tell I've been reading Gemmell again?
..yes?
I personally have no interested in a brain squirrel logo bag. I like the other two suggestions because I and others know what they are and have a connection to them.
I might just have to wait for the official ones is what I'm saying. I'M OUT!
The yellow cat looks similar to Kemper ... could even be from the same litter. But she is "our" artwork. I don't see why we can't use her ... do all cats belong to PA?
You'd rather have Khoo round people up at PAX and remove bags? Because he would not be alone. He has an Army (Enforcers)
At least one of those in his army would whistle politely and look the other way while the offending attendees walked in the other direction with their cool bags...
I see no problem with the yellow cat stamp. It is ours, and I think we should use it.
Well the yellow cat is quite distinctly Kemper, who isn't ours
The safest thing would be to update it to a Brain Squirrel and then go nuts (heh) making whatever.
I'll just put some feelers up in this thread, if people aren't going to get super mad about it, we can hold a new competition for the squirrel design.
For the record, I emailed Mike about making Stamps with the Kemper depiction and providing them to Forum members who ordered them a year and a half ago and he said it was fine.
Or Ask Mike. That's what I did. I think this is all very silly btw. Namely because as I said I ask last year because of those stamps because I was making KEMPER stamps. They said yes. What's the argument.
Well it's up to you guys want you to use or do Just adding my thoughts.
If you ask about using our cat logo, maybe you'll get 2 thumbs up, as I agree it's pretty stylised. Might just be because the PInny logo is sort of like "this an officially sanctioned Pinny Arcade location" and they might feel that's going to cause huge issues if people with bags going around pretending to sell "official" pins etc. I think that might be the reason on that one more than any copyright thing, which if no money making is involved, I've found them to be pretty ok with fan-based stuff.
If you do go ahead with the cat stamp though, I'm 100% in cause I love the heck out of that haha
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Who should we ask. Brian? Eric?
I don't want to get anyone upset by this. We could put the Pinny Pal logo on instead ... who has that graphic? Do we have the right to use that one?
I kinda like the idea of a "club" bag.
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Well when I had the Winter-King mask made, I had to get a copyright waiver since the maker wouldn't do anything belonging to someone else's IP. He didn't want to be seen as profiting from their work without their permission.
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Am I understanding the correctly that you are asking Khoo? Or should I contact him?
Yes, but I have two problems with that. One, they cost a lot more, because you don't get the bulk discount (costs about twice as much) and shared shipping fee, and two, I want these for forum members only. Otherwise, I feel we are stepping into PAs territory. It is their logo.
You are indeed correct.
So I suggest seeing how they look with the Pinnypals logo. I sent a follow-up about our use of Sir Thomas Kemper, and if that is an issue we have Brain Squirrels as our own IP.
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I rather like our logo...soooo..I vote it stays as it. We already had a creative person on the forums make that one(and it was not me)
Edit: and we DID vote on that Logo when it was picked
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But I agree if we could make a... similar logo for PinnyPals that doesn't use any of their IPs or something, it might be worthwhile.
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Second, I still think Kemper is fine. They have seen us use it for almost a year and a half on things and anytime we use it they usually retweet it if we post it on Twitter. It is an artists rendition of Kemper, not one that they drew. Do you really think they are going to have any issue at all. O.o
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The red stamp logo is ours, @manic2k partner made that for the site. (I also will never correct the spelling on the site, I just love it way too much, feel free to use corrected one for prints though haha)
I really like the red stamp and the Kemper stamp as the logo but I'm not opposed at all to changing the Kemper in the stamp in to a Brain Squirrel because then we can do merchandise for the site. There are a lot of talented artists among us and some custom gear to sport at PAX's could be pretty sweet if you ask me.
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You'd rather have Khoo round people up at PAX and remove bags? Because he would not be alone. He has an Army (Enforcers), he has Acolytes (Josh, et al.) and above all, He Is Khoo.
Can you tell I've been reading Gemmell again?
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Well the yellow cat is quite distinctly Kemper, who isn't ours
The safest thing would be to update it to a Brain Squirrel and then go nuts (heh) making whatever.
I'll just put some feelers up in this thread, if people aren't going to get super mad about it, we can hold a new competition for the squirrel design.
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Oh you mean the logo as it currently is on the site we're promoting?
I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT IS YOUR "CORRECTED" VERSION THAT IS THE MISTAKE!!
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lol rekt.
..yes?
I personally have no interested in a brain squirrel logo bag. I like the other two suggestions because I and others know what they are and have a connection to them.
I might just have to wait for the official ones is what I'm saying. I'M OUT!
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If we move to the 'brain squirrel' I'm out for the bag. If we use the 'corrected' version of the stamp maybe....but probably not.
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For the record, I emailed Mike about making Stamps with the Kemper depiction and providing them to Forum members who ordered them a year and a half ago and he said it was fine.
Just putting that out there. That is 'merch'.
I'm serious lol
If you ask about using our cat logo, maybe you'll get 2 thumbs up, as I agree it's pretty stylised. Might just be because the PInny logo is sort of like "this an officially sanctioned Pinny Arcade location" and they might feel that's going to cause huge issues if people with bags going around pretending to sell "official" pins etc. I think that might be the reason on that one more than any copyright thing, which if no money making is involved, I've found them to be pretty ok with fan-based stuff.
If you do go ahead with the cat stamp though, I'm 100% in cause I love the heck out of that haha
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