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League of Legends: Bardon Me, Do you have some dead Teemon?

RozRoz Boss ofInternetRegistered User regular
edited April 2015 in Games and Technology
This OP was shamelessly stolen from my good friend Burnage who is a totally awesome dude that doesn't play League anymore. RIP burnage, you will be missed.

In loving memory of Burnage, Fiora player: 2011-2015.

League of Legends (popularly known as LOL) is a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game created by Riot Games.

You play as a summoner that controls a champion and looks forward to replays for half a decade. During games, your champion will level up, get gold for better equipment and hopefully destroy the enemy nexus. Outside of games, you will wait several months for new champions and your summoner level will rise. This will unlock new runes to enhance champion stats, bestow mastery points for further champion customization and goodies like avatars. At max level you can then compete in ranked matches, meaninglessly judge player behavior in what is called the Tribunal and weep over the lack of ranked Dominion.

Thread Layout
OP - The Basics - General LoL Tips and Tricks
2nd - PENTAKILL! - Come see who among us has recently scored a PENTABUTT
3rd - Currently Open Contests/One-Time Events
The Basics
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New Player Guide
1. Make an account: NA EU (West) EU (Nordic & East)

It's worth noting that referring new players has perks, so I would ask for a referral link in the thread rather than a vanilla account.

2. Download the client: Right here.

The official Mac client is in beta - download it today!

3. Play the tutorials and read the New User Guide!

The game can be a bit overwhelming, and I highly suggest you play the tutorials OR find someone willing to do a few vs. AI games with you.

4. Join the "Penny Arcade" Chat Channel to find helpful people and people to escape solo queue with!

Click the little double speech bubble looking thing at the bottom right of your screen. Click the + speech bubble right above it. Type in "Penny Arcade" and introduce yourself. Not everyone you see in the thread will be there, as not everyone plays on the same server. You can ask these people how to play champions, we pretty much have someone who plays each champion.

5. Play vs. People

Do it, damn you. The AI is not going to give you the legitimate LoL experience. You don't want to hit your 20s solely from bot matches. If you do use bot games, focus on practicing basic mechanics such as getting the last hit on minions for sweet, sweet gold.

6. Get yer free champs.

Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin! You can also get a free Tristana skins if you're into the Facebook thing. Promo skins always include the champion if you've not already bought them, so this is an easy way to pick up two champions.
The Dos and Don'ts of LoL
1. Don't buy champions randomly!

LoL has two currencies: Riot Points (RP), which are bought with real money, and Influence Points (IP) which are earned solely by playing games. Champions can be bought with both, but every week there will be ten free champions to play with. Play these champs instead. Get a feel for each type of champion and see which you find more fun. It's far better to do this as opposed to buying a champ randomly and ultimately being unhappy with it. You can also get three refund opportunities for both IP and RP purchases.

2. Don't buy Tier 2 Runes.

They are pretty much a waste of IP. Buy Tier 1 and save up for Tier 3. Or, if you're baller like Hargaad, don't even buy Tier 1. Wait to hit level 30, then buy all the Tier 3 runes you need.

3. Do queue with friends.

Playing with randoms is a crapshoot, and playing with a friend or two can put the odds in your favor. Play complementary champs and request feedback on how you did in each game (even if you won). Likewise, you can offer advice to others you saw having trouble in a polite manner.

4. Do learn the champions.

When a new rotation occurs, it is wise to play a few games with each champ. Knowing what each champ is capable of will be useful even if you hate how they play and never intend on using them. For example, Karthus has a skill that does damage to every enemy champion, regardless of location! If you know this, then you can be a jerk and take Soraka (who has a skill that heals all allied champions).

5. Do read guides.

There are multiple ways to play a champion. This combination of skills, runes, masteries and items is called a "build" and are the general strategies for any champion. The recommended items in the game store are not always ideal, and the order you level skills can have a big impact on how the early stages of the game play out. Sites like LolKing and Solomid offer builds for just about every champion. It's cookie-cutter, but a great foundation for new players. Once you learn the ins and outs, you can tweak a build to better serve your playstyles or as a reaction to enemy or ally players.

6. Do be polite and do report.

Watch this first.

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Sometimes people will suck or do shit wrong. It's a game, so try to keep that in mind when things get a little unhinged. If you insult or yell at people, even if they did do something wrong, you're likely going to get that person defensive and things will very quickly begin to break down. Instead of focusing on the game, you focus on hurling insults at each other. Stay calm, and politely offer advice when needed.

Sometimes, even with this in mind, people will still be jerks. It happens! Simply /mute them and quietly report them after the game. Taking their bait is probably what they want you to do. Do not give them the satisfaction! Keep your cool.

7. Buy skins.

Having a skin for a character is a great way to say "Hey I'm fucking awesome with this champion so get the fuck out of my way." If your team is using more skins than your enemy team, you basically have already won. Some skins do offer very minor alterations in the way that a champion plays - skins with sunglasses, for instance, take 1 less damage from the sun-based champion Leona's attacks.
Game Stuff
1. Do not be aggressive.

There will be a serious urge to want to kill enemy champs. Resist! Death is an all-around loss: your opponents get more cash and experience, you miss out on experience and your lane risks getting pushed. If you set-up a kill and fail, do not continue chasing. In many cases, you will just die to a tower or get ganked. While later on you will learn when to take risks, early in your career it's best to be less aggressive and just let the other guy get away.

2. Do not focus on KDR.

Your kill-death-ratio is not the end-all of your value. It is possible to lose despite having a serious kill advantage over the enemy team! Certain champions, once getting the right items, can be unstoppable murder machines. Even if you do kill them a lot, if they reach this threshold, it's possible for a dramatic reversal to occur. It is far more important to support your team's objectives: push towers, protect your own towers from being pushed and keep your team informed of enemy activity. It is far better to have a modest KDR and win, than be the team killer and lose.

3. Do watch the minimap and your enemy.

Enemy locations are important! In your low-level games you will likely have two champs tops lane, one mid and two bottom (in later level games, one from top will be off "jungling," so top will have just one champ). If a player in YOUR lane is missing, let the team know. The player might just be heading back to base to buy items, or they could be trying to jump your friend in another lane. And mention when they came back to your lane! But this doesn't mean you should rely wholly on team recon. Watch the minimap yourself for enemy locations in other lanes whenever you can. People aren't perfect, and sometimes that warning comes a bit too late. Another set of eyes is always useful.

4. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big-reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS.

5. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS. Yes, I posted this twice. It is that important.

6. Do something.

So you just wiped the enemy team out. Hooray! But...what are you doing now? Did you just go back to your respective lanes and farm? Incorrect! You now have precious map control, and should be taking advantage of it. Gather up as a team and take out a tower. Head to the dragon and get a clean kill. Steal enemy creeps (especially their blue and red buffs). You can always check the status of both teams by pressing tab. If multiple enemies are waiting on respawn, then you need to press that advantage.

7. Don't just wait around all day when you're in a position to win.

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8. Do buy wards.

Seriously, kids. If Hargaad can do it, so can you. I know you have 75 gold just laying around sometimes. Don't feed us with your bullshit of, "But I need to save for x item!" No! Fuck you, and your high horse. If you don't buy wards, and you die a lot, nobody on your team is going to be able to save you from a beefed up (whatever) lane.

9. Learn to speak ping.

All you really need to communicate effectively in this game is to be able to use the pings it provides.
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To use these pings, hold down the Alt, Ctrl, G, or V keys while clicking to show the new ping overlay. Then, move your mouse in the direction of the ping you want to issue, and release. You can perform this action either on the terrain or the minimap for precision pinging.
It is unacceptable to blame players that aren't typing at all, or players that are not speaking in English.
Meet the Team
Like any group activity, stuff is usually broken down into roles. It's worth noting that champions don't always fit neatly in categories. A champion's role in the team may depend on what build has been chosen, and sometimes you may fill several roles depending on the group composition. When picking champions, it's a good idea to see what people are doing and fill in any holes.

1. The Marksman:
Examples include Caitlyn, Ezreal, Ashe and Vayne.

If your team is a car, then the marksman is the engine. It's what makes the team function. The marksman, when doing its job, will be able to easily destroy the whole team. But, just like an engine is useless without any other parts of your car, the marksman relies on its team to get the gold necessary to buy the items needed to kill swathes of enemies. Early on, however, marksmen tend to be more vulnerable and weaker than other champs.

2. The Tank:
Examples include Leona, Sejuani, Zac and Nautilus.

Following the car metaphor, the tank is your steering. It'll guide the team into battle, and in many cases will be the one starting the fights. Tanks are there to absorb damage and lock down the most dangerous champions on the enemy team so you can position yourselves to win the fight. Some tanks do this with CC, whereas other tanks have some damage and will soften up the enemy team instead. Tanks still tend to need the rest of their team to back them up.

3. The Support:
Examples include Soraka, Sona, Nami and Janna.

I guess support are your tires or something? Maybe the AC. Either way, supports help the team out with buffs and generally shields or healing. Supports tend to assist the marksman by allowing the marksman to stay in the lane longer. Unlike, well, just about everyone else, supports don't rely so much on gear and thus will purposefully AVOID getting last hits so that their lane partner can farm gold faster. Because of their reduced need of gold, support should also be buying and placing wards when needed. It's worth noting that EVERYONE should generally buy wards, but as a support you can afford to take the financial hit.


4. The Assassin:

Examples include Kha'zix, Talon, Zed and Evelynn.

If we're sticking with the car metaphor, the assassin is like your car having a button you can press which will make that other car's engine implode. Assassins generally specialise in high single-target damage and mobility, allowing them to quickly eliminate enemy marksmen and mages with ease. If you're playing as a squishy and vulnerable target, these guys are going to be your biggest threat - ask your team to try and keep them from harming you. Assassins also generally need to get kills early in order to stay competitive into the later stages of the game.

5. The Mage:
Examples include Brand, Syndra, Lux and Annie.

Mages are a broad category, with their defining feature being that they primarily deal damage at range through their abilities and not auto-attacks. Some, like Lissandra, focus less on dealing damage and more on being able to control the enemy team's movement. Others, like Brand or Ziggs, have relatively less utility and are instead capable of putting out high amounts of damage. Mages benefit strongly from their role's innate flexibility, and can have a huge impact on team fights.

6. The Fighter:
Examples include Garen, Renekton, Trundle and Vi.

Fighters are melee attackers with a mix of offensive and defensive capabilities. They're not as hard to kill as a tank, and not able to throw out as much damage as an assassin, but they can still prove to be fearsome opponents - especially if they stay alive and are allowed to deal their damage over time. Like mages, the fighter role is incredibly versatile, with each fighter having a different mixture of damage and utility.

7. The Jungler:
Examples include Warwick, Udyr, Xin Zhao and Jarvan IV.

Although not a label Riot applies to their champions, the jungler is a role that you'll begin to see at higher summoner levels. This is due to runes and masteries allowing for more efficient jungling. It is still possible during lower levels on a few champs, even at summoner level 1, but very uncommon. As the name implies, the jungler sits in the jungle (the parts of the map in between lanes) and kills neutral creeps (or "monsters"). This benefits your team by creating a second solo lane (top lane), resulting in more experience and gold for your team as a whole. Once the jungler hits a certain gear/level point, they look for opportunities to gank enemies. This is generally done via strong CC abilities, such as Warwick's ultimate or Nunu's slow coupled with his speed buff. Skills such as these will enable the jungler's teammate in that lane to easily assist with the kill. When not ganking, the jungler will return to the jungle regularly to keep up in terms of gold and experience. Due to their roaming, the jungler has plenty of opportunities to place wards for its teammates.

This is a very simple guide, and is only a rough outline of the basics! Roles can easily overlap, and a champion can fill more than one role! Ezreal is a marksman/mage, for instance, and Taric is a support/tank.
What's this I hear about different maps?
There are four different maps in League of Legends, each of which has a different style of gameplay. In some cases, different items will be available on each of them, and champions might be altered slightly.

1. Summoner's Rift.

This is the most well-known map, and what you'll probably be spending most of your time on. Featuring five players on each team, the goal is to destroy the enemy's team base (or nexus). Waves of friendly NPCs ("minions") will attempt to help you reach your objective, although standing in their way are increasingly strong sets of turrets (alongside the enemy team and their minions). In between the lanes which your minions will travel along are neutral monsters which you can destroy for more gold. There are also two very large monsters, the dragon and Baron Nashor, which can require your entire team attacking them to be taken down - but the rewards for doing so are great.

2. The Howling Abyss.

The simplest map, this is essentially a single lane version of Summoner's Rift. Five players on each team control a randomly chosen character, and aim to destroy the enemy team's nexus first. Things are made more complicated by the players being unable to buy items, unless it's the start of the game or they've recently died. This map also has creatures called Poros roaming it, making it the best map by default.

3. The Crystal Scar.

This is the only map for the game mode known as "Dominion". Again a 5v5 mode, the novelty here is that the map features control points that players must "capture" and hold onto in order to win. There are five control points, and the team that holds less of them slowly lose health from their nexus - until it reaches zero, and they lose. Dotted around the map are speed boosts and health packs. The basic strategy for Dominion involves sending four players to the top point, and one strong duelist or pusher to the bottom lane of the map. Tip; take Revive.

Dominion is never going to receive a ranked mode. It is also the best.

4. The Twisted Treeline.

The 3v3 gametype known as Twisted Treeline was fully launched in March 2010, but it was relaunched with an entirely new map in October 2012 because of some serious design flaws in the original map that Riot decided were unfixable. The new map is still in beta, but will be exiting beta Soon™. However, 3v3 still at least gets more support than Dominion. While still fundamentally the same gameplay, there are some key differences from Summoner's Rift to keep in mind - the lack of wards and altered objectives being the most important. Much more info here!

Useful LoL related websites
Surrender@20 - For all the latest LoL news and a sneak peak at any upcoming content on the Public Beta Environment.
http://www.solomid.net/ - A more advanced and polished version of Mobafire. Solomid offers intricate guides on champs that've been tried and tested by the community. Best for more advanced players of lvl 20+
http://www.lolking.net/ - A site useful for looking at skins, as their splash art can be quite different from their in-game appearance. It's also good for looking up summoners, statistics about the game, and guides for champions.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com - The standard LoL website! Info on the game can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggKB98It0Q - The basics of laning and last hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxGQ3gWdrM - Shurelya's guide on zoning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVtmV0FzW_0 SivHD's guide to never raging again.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsVUL5xGFvg2vO787daxpJFAAcxpr5vE8 Saintvicious Jungle guides.
List of helpful LoL terminology.
Sign up for a LoL debit card to earn RP!

Stuff You Should Know
- Yes, a promo skin will unlock that champion for free.
- Some promo codes will work on multiple servers. Some will not. Yes, this is confusing.
- Map vision wins games - BUY WARDS.
- It is a team wide effort, everyone buys wards.
- When in doubt, take Ignite/Flash.

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Post your pentas in the thread to get them added! Message the OP if he is blind or lazy!
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    This post is now going to be saved for the more recent pentakills. In the interest of giving more attention to the recent pentas, I took the liberty of removing the old ones and putting them into an album. All the pentakills until 4/15/13 are here.[/quote]

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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    This OP was shamelessly stolen from my good friend Burnage who is a totally awesome dude that doesn't play League anymore. RIP burnage, you will be missed.

    In loving memory of Burnage, Fiora player: 2011-2015.

    As much as I appreciate this, I'm not dead dead

    I'm just

    Finally free

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    This OP was shamelessly stolen from my good friend Burnage who is a totally awesome dude that doesn't play League anymore. RIP burnage, you will be missed.

    In loving memory of Burnage, Fiora player: 2011-2015.

    As much as I appreciate this, I'm not dead dead

    I'm just

    Finally free

    Bitch, this is Hotel California.

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    lwt1973lwt1973 King of Thieves SyndicationRegistered User regular
    I hate placement games.

    "He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
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    PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    I hate placement games.

    I haven't played mine yet simply because I kind of don't like the idea of them. But soon. SOON!

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    This OP was shamelessly stolen from my good friend Burnage who is a totally awesome dude that doesn't play League anymore. RIP burnage, you will be missed.

    In loving memory of Burnage, Fiora player: 2011-2015.

    As much as I appreciate this, I'm not dead dead

    I'm just

    Finally free

    When the Fiora rework comes, I'm gonna Yorick you back to this game.

    The sig prophecy must be fulfilled.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    You might think you've quit League.

    You'll go on with your life, settle down, have kids, retire.

    Years later, on your death bed, as you peacefully succumb to the ravages of old age, your vision will turn grey.

    Then your family will start bitching about what a stupid feeder you are.

    You'll snap to at your desk and realize you never left. That you're still trapped, trapped in the League of Legends.

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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    This OP was shamelessly stolen from my good friend Burnage who is a totally awesome dude that doesn't play League anymore. RIP burnage, you will be missed.

    In loving memory of Burnage, Fiora player: 2011-2015.

    As much as I appreciate this, I'm not dead dead

    I'm just

    Finally free

    When the Fiora rework comes, I'm gonna Yorick you back to this game.

    The sig prophecy must be fulfilled.

    Sure, I'll still be kicking around in 2018.

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    You might think you've quit League.

    You'll go on with your life, settle down, have kids, retire.

    Years later, on your death bed, as you peacefully succumb to the ravages of old age, your vision will turn grey.

    Then your family will start bitching about what a stupid feeder you are.

    You'll snap to at your desk and realize you never left. That you're still trapped, trapped in the League of Legends.

    it's like a twilight zone episode!

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    JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    His model design is straight up Dawngate.

    I love it.

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    Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Hey, so. This got buried in the Bard reveal news. My apologies for reposting.

    Can someone give me a few tips for basic jungling?

    I'm going to play a bunch of solo vs all bots games with Kha'Zix before going into games with teammates. I know I want Smite.
    I know there are basic routes, like Golem-Red-Wolves, recall- Blue etc.
    I know I need to be roaming bottom or top periodically to help gank and provide pressure.
    I know I need to be controlling important spawns like dragon.
    I know I need to ward. What areas though, ummm...

    I know it won't be super effective until I'm at least 20 or so. I do still want to learn the basics of the role now, so it will be easier when I get my runes and masteries later.

    I also don't understand itemization and enchants like Warrior.

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    well Bard's mechanics look really fucking cool

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Bard looks incredible. I have no way to reasonably evaluate him, since he's so different from any other character.

    --His passive gives him map presence in a way not previously seen.
    --He has a new binding ability that's probably pretty good (see gnar)
    --His portals are just WTF amazing. So many baits and mind games. Opens up interesting avenues of play.
    --His ult is unbelievable. In the real sense of, I cannot believe Riot actually did this. This ability is so strong it can single-handedly win or lose games. The fact that it can target teammates sets up some amazing counter-play possibilities, but also allows for J4 caliber "I'm helping!" ultimates.

    I haven't been this excited about a champ in a long time. (well, maybe Gnar) But this guy presses all my buttons and I'm really looking forward to seeing his impact on the game.

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    VaregaVarega Registered User regular
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Hey, so. This got buried in the Bard reveal news. My apologies for reposting.

    Can someone give me a few tips for basic jungling?

    I'm going to play a bunch of solo vs all bots games with Kha'Zix before going into games with teammates. I know I want Smite.
    I know there are basic routes, like Golem-Red-Wolves, recall- Blue etc.
    I know I need to be roaming bottom or top periodically to help gank and provide pressure.
    I know I need to be controlling important spawns like dragon.
    I know I need to ward. What areas though, ummm...

    I know it won't be super effective until I'm at least 20 or so. I do still want to learn the basics of the role now, so it will be easier when I get my runes and masteries later.

    I also don't understand itemization and enchants like Warrior.
    PM me in game, I'll show you the ropes.

    League of Legends:Varega
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    JookieJookie Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    In "where did all of my FUCKING MONEY GO" news,
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    New skins.

    I'm pretty sure Galio's ult is actually causing everyone hurling jealous insults at him over how he's a silky smooth motherfucker.
    Edit-Kassadin's getting a VU as well.
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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    JAEF wrote: »
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

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    How pissed is Zilean at that awesome ultimate!

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    JookieJookie Registered User regular
    Noxus needs better themed skins. Steel Legion is OKAY I guess but they just cannot touch the Debonair line.

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Jookie wrote: »
    Noxus needs better themed skins. Steel Legion is OKAY I guess but they just cannot touch the Debonair line.

    Nothing can touch the debonair line

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    PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Jookie wrote: »
    Noxus needs better themed skins. Steel Legion is OKAY I guess but they just cannot touch the Debonair line.

    Nothing can touch the debonair line

    While its not touching, the police cop line of skins is also pretty aces.

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    LilleDjevelLilleDjevel Registered User regular
    So like debonair Garen.

    Grass Grows,
    Birds Fly,
    'til there's Fire in the Sky...

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    DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

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    How pissed is Zilean at that awesome ultimate!

    Ult is cool and all but I'm digging that tunnel move.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Oh wow Bard's chimes give him XP, so no loss for roaming.

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    KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

    Promo_Bard_Reveal_Comic_thumb.jpg

    How pissed is Zilean at that awesome ultimate!

    Ult is cool and all but I'm digging that tunnel move.

    Oh hey, I'm from the future. Bard's just been out for a week. Here's what happens in every Bard game:

    A low-health champion with an escape jumps/burrows/teleports over a wall. Bard tunnels through the wall. The other team uses the tunnel and secures 2 kills.

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    DraygoDraygo Registered User regular
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Hey, so. This got buried in the Bard reveal news. My apologies for reposting.

    Can someone give me a few tips for basic jungling?

    I'm going to play a bunch of solo vs all bots games with Kha'Zix before going into games with teammates. I know I want Smite.
    I know there are basic routes, like Golem-Red-Wolves, recall- Blue etc.
    I know I need to be roaming bottom or top periodically to help gank and provide pressure.
    I know I need to be controlling important spawns like dragon.
    I know I need to ward. What areas though, ummm...

    I know it won't be super effective until I'm at least 20 or so. I do still want to learn the basics of the role now, so it will be easier when I get my runes and masteries later.

    I also don't understand itemization and enchants like Warrior.

    Really super basic getting started.

    generally you start at the bottom most big camp for your side. That's the frog guy if you start top or the golems if you start bottom. Smite early to gain the buff from the camp kill the camp then go right to red or blue (depending which side you are on).

    Everything beyond that can get down into the type of champion you are. Some champions like ganking early and often, others like just farming as quickly as they can to get to 6, others like invading the enemy jungle to make the opposing jungle get behind/have a bad day. look up some guides for your specific champion.

    Other generalities: Jungler should be keeping track of red/blue/dragon/baron/enemy red/enemy blue whenever possible. It is however the teams job to secure dragon, and its not always smart to go do it alone. It is the junglers responsibility to have smite ready to go for dragon/baron. So don't smite a camp or an enemy champion right before your team goes for one of those objectives.

    Top is, and always is the least important lane in the game. It is the farthest from any early objectives, it is however the easiest lane to gank as often they wont see it coming, and brawler type champs dominate that lane which tend to be farther into the lane than ranged champions.

    Mid is the hardest lane to gank if the opposing mid has his flash, they will often escape because of the short distance between the towers, but it offers a decent benefit, as the middle tower is more important than the outer towers, games are often won through the middle lane. if you notice the enemy mid use flash its usually worth an attempt to gank. Beware of burst mages that could kill both you and your mid at the same time.

    Bot is the riskiest lane to gank as it is often only a 2 on 3. But any gains in the bot lane can result in dragon control and a won dragon. If you gank bot successfully even if you don't get a kill and your allies are healthy enough go secure the dragon objective.

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Bard looks fucking insane.

    I'm kind of morbidly curious exactly how close to the middle of the ARAM bridge you can put a portal, to potentially put people into position behind the inner turret without aggroing it.

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

    Promo_Bard_Reveal_Comic_thumb.jpg

    How pissed is Zilean at that awesome ultimate!

    Ult is cool and all but I'm digging that tunnel move.

    I see what you did there.

    I'm pretty stunned by his q myself.

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    PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    I wonder if you can skill shot through the tunnel.

    Get to safely and then suddenly a disembodied robot hand comes flying through after you.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Khavall wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

    Promo_Bard_Reveal_Comic_thumb.jpg

    How pissed is Zilean at that awesome ultimate!

    Ult is cool and all but I'm digging that tunnel move.

    Oh hey, I'm from the future. Bard's just been out for a week. Here's what happens in every Bard game:

    A low-health champion with an escape jumps/burrows/teleports over a wall. Bard tunnels through the wall. The other team uses the tunnel and secures 2 kills.

    I think its going to be mostly a ganking tool, remember he will be roaming.

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    DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Khavall wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

    Promo_Bard_Reveal_Comic_thumb.jpg

    How pissed is Zilean at that awesome ultimate!

    Ult is cool and all but I'm digging that tunnel move.

    Oh hey, I'm from the future. Bard's just been out for a week. Here's what happens in every Bard game:

    A low-health champion with an escape jumps/burrows/teleports over a wall. Bard tunnels through the wall. The other team uses the tunnel and secures 2 kills.

    Probably, but that doesn't mean the move isn't cool.

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    RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Khavall wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

    Bard Reveal is out. This is the most DotA champion I have ever seen in League.

    Promo_Bard_Reveal_Comic_thumb.jpg

    How pissed is Zilean at that awesome ultimate!

    Ult is cool and all but I'm digging that tunnel move.

    Oh hey, I'm from the future. Bard's just been out for a week. Here's what happens in every Bard game:

    A low-health champion with an escape jumps/burrows/teleports over a wall. Bard tunnels through the wall. The other team uses the tunnel and secures 2 kills.

    I think its going to be mostly a ganking tool, remember he will be roaming.

    How long does the portal last? It could be really powerful if you can open it, cast your ult, go through it, and then close it.

    Another line of play - open it, gank a target, go back through it and set a trap for whomever comes through.

    I'm really interested to see how long it lasts for. Come to think of it...what does leveling up this ability even do? Increase the duration of the portal? That seems actively bad.

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Yeah, as soon as I saw that kit I thought, man, that guy kinda belongs in DotA2! But I'm so psyched to play him. Looks so fun!

    However, I thought it was a principle of LoL champ design to not have any involuntary friendly repositionings (or stasises, or transformations, or what have you...)

    I'm finally going to learn how to be a good roaming support and it's going to be glorious.

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    JookieJookie Registered User regular
    Bard/Teemo.

    You're gonna go on one hell of a Magical Journey.

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    Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar New Badges? Fucking BOSS!Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    I have low expectations for Bard.
    His kit just seems so...bad. And gimmicky.
    His passive demands you to roam to collect his bells and whistles; if you don't, you're wasting him.
    The video Riot has on all of his abilities show that his slow/stun is pretty wide, but still requires close enemies (looks like the range is about 400).
    His portal will likely level up and lower cooldown and reduce mana cost. Other than that, I would suspect the portal length can't be terminated and is just there until it expires. I would also suspect that it's going to not do long-range fold-time-and-space tricks like hooks through the portal because coding those angles would be a nightmare to block off all alternate angles. (like shooting a Blitz hook at the back of a portal and then the hook still goes through the portal; even if not that, Blitz could land his grab from behind a portal, and as the person got pulled towards Blitz, would that person then go through the portal instead of to Blitz?)
    His health packs that he drops takes as long as a recall to manifest after casting. My only problem with their video is that they didn't show if it ever expired. If not, then drop that shit everywhere for days.
    His ult looks like a giant stun that also grants invulnerability. In their preview, Bard "saved" two of his low-health teammates by ulting them as the enemy Karthus was ulting next to them. Should ult enemy Karthus instead to cancel ult and let your teammates get away. The way Riot did it just lets Karthus shrug at not getting his ult on them and is now able to just walk up and throw skittles at them. e: 9 out of 10 times, you don't want to ult your own teammates.

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »

    Another line of play - open it, gank a target, go back through it and set a trap for whomever comes through.

    I'm really interested to see how long it lasts for. Come to think of it...what does leveling up this ability even do? Increase the duration of the portal? That seems actively bad.

    I thought it was one-way? So it's only for going hard in the paint

    Also I imagine leveling up the ability lowers cdr severely

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    JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    The Karthus example was just to show him saving them from the damage, not trying to demonstrate the most effective use in that particular case. The champion spotlight is where you'll see the actual gameplay examples. They were just showing what his abilities do.

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    VaregaVarega Registered User regular
    I have low expectations for Bard.
    His kit just seems so...bad. And gimmicky.
    His passive demands you to roam to collect his bells and whistles; if you don't, you're wasting him.
    The video Riot has on all of his abilities show that his slow/stun is pretty wide, but still requires close enemies (looks like the range is about 400).
    His portal will likely level up and lower cooldown and reduce mana cost. Other than that, I would suspect the portal length can't be terminated and is just there until it expires. I would also suspect that it's going to not do long-range fold-time-and-space tricks like hooks through the portal because coding those angles would be a nightmare to block off all alternate angles. (like shooting a Blitz hook at the back of a portal and then the hook still goes through the portal; even if not that, Blitz could land his grab from behind a portal, and as the person got pulled towards Blitz, would that person then go through the portal instead of to Blitz?)
    His health packs that he drops takes as long as a recall to manifest after casting. My only problem with their video is that they didn't show if it ever expired. If not, then drop that shit everywhere for days.
    His ult looks like a giant stun that also grants invulnerability. In their preview, Bard "saved" two of his low-health teammates by ulting them as the enemy Karthus was ulting next to them. Should ult enemy Karthus instead to cancel ult and let your teammates get away. The way Riot did it just lets Karthus shrug at not getting his ult on them and is now able to just walk up and throw skittles at them. e: 9 out of 10 times, you don't want to ult your own teammates.

    The objective is making counterplay out of mobility. That's what they've done here. You can CHOOSE to use the E as an escape. However, if you're looking to escape, you're probably either waiting on CDs, or straight up losing the fight. Now you've enabled chase, and will be hunted down.

    Again, the object of the stasis is that they want to show you what it does. Everyone knows that ulting karthus is the optimal play, but that wasn't a combat scenario. That's showing the champion's abilities off. Don't be dumb.

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    I'm not sure how to interpret these Children of the Grave changes for Morde. Do I want to ghost their AP carries now?

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    His passive demands you to roam to collect his bells and whistles; if you don't, you're wasting him.
    Yes, not doing what a champion is designed to do wastes him.

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