Rogues are surprisingly squishy going up against the Gorgrond elites that drop the little quest bits for XP turnin. Paladin and Hunter shit stomped them. Teleporting from target to target as a rogue in a small area is pretty cool though.
So Sundays are my one day off each week and I've been itching to get back into WoW for the longest while. I can't even remember where most of my characters are in level, let alone servers.
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I've been getting the itch again too. I was on battlenet account last night and saw the little 10 day trial button by the draenor expansion. My brain said don't click it, but I did anyway. I don't have any characters on Draenor, so I want to make one. Just trying to decide what I want to do. I keep trying new mmos, but I always just want to come back to wow.
Fairly, raid couple times a week. Almost always a few people on puttering about.
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Yeah, we regularly raid every Wednesday night. Sometimes we also try to do raiding on Sunday nights, but less people can come to those. We haven't had a Sunday raid in a few weeks.
A lot of people have noticed that they're not doing as hot as they might like to be. I have a couple pieces of advice that are pretty easy to follow.
1) Look up your raiding priority list/opener/rotation on icy veins. Icy Veins isn't infallible, but generally those guides have been written by people who play their classes at a high level.
2) Look up a good raiding guild (mmo champ usually reports on world firsts) and try to find out how someone who plays your class better than you sets up their UI. You don't necessarily have to ape their UI, but hopefully you can find a post where they're discussing why they set it up the way they did.
3) If you can't find a good UI guide, here's a easy breakdown. Find out what is important to your performance (cooldowns, buffs, combo points, etc) and put that information closer to where you normally focus your eyes while you're playing. For instance, my combo points and my important buffs/debuffs are right there around my character model so that I can see whether or not a mob has rupture or I have Slice and Dice or w/e without having to look around for it.
4) Look at your logs. We have logs on Mr. Robot for all of our raids. Look at your buff uptimes. Is there something important that you're forgetting to do? As an example, when I'm playing as combat I need as close to 100% uptime on Slice and Dice as I can get. So I looked at some of the early logs and saw that I wasn't doing that very well. I adjusted some of my UI elements to make my uptime a lot higher and that helped my DPS.
5) Look at logs for other people who play your class. One example of this is you can compare Katchal's healing to Cellophane's (Katchal, don't know if you read this thread, but I'm going to put you on blast). Cellophane is healing like we're playing Warlords of Draenor. Katchal is healing like we're playing Wrath of the Lich King. If you look at the Butcher fight from 2 weeks ago, Katchal is casting Flash of Light almost every chance he can. Cellophane used it like 3 or 4 times. Katchal ran out of mana about 2/3rds through the fight. Cellophane didn't... Flash of Light is no longer the filler spell for most classes. Blizz has made it to where longer cast spells are way more mana efficient, etc. I don't bring this up to just blast Katchal, who I don't know and I'm sure is an OK dude (or dudette), but when you encounter a disparity in your performance with the performance of other people, looking at WHAT THEY ARE DOING DIFFERENT can help you play better.
6) Ask questions! Curiosity about your class/spec and your potential/actual performance is the first step to improving.
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We should probably get some kind of website rolling again.
The logs are easy to get to for those of us in the facebook group, but for the folks who aren't we should probably have a place where they can easily get at those log links too.
We should probably get some kind of website rolling again.
The logs are easy to get to for those of us in the facebook group, but for the folks who aren't we should probably have a place where they can easily get at those log links too.
Also I miss doing ridic boss kill posts.
Mr. Robot will show you all the logs your character was present for.
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Need to redo all my keys or build some [shift] and [alt] modifiers, I have potions on me every fight and I never remember to use the damn things, although I do use those shieldtronic things....especially since I made a zillion with my priest while levelling eng.
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So how do you decide which garrison quests to do? Do I do the rare ones? Or the ones that I have the best success rate in? Or for coins? Or XP? I'm confused.
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So how do you decide which garrison quests to do? Do I do the rare ones? Or the ones that I have the best success rate in? Or for coins? Or XP? I'm confused.
I usually just do all the ones I have a 100% chance of winning, but I also have 25 active followers who are fully leveled up at this point. I don't really remember my strategy from back when I was leveling up.
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So at the start, is it best to focus on the xp missions to level my followers up?
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Yeah, leveling them up gets you higher level missions, and higher level missions get you better rewards. Also, getting a salvage yard is a handy way to get upgrades for your followers once they hit level 100. Followers bring back salvage crates, you open them up on your salvage yard, and occasionally you'll get a follower upgrade. I don't think it happens in the level 1 salvage yard, but definitely in the level 2 and 3 building. Not sure if any of us told you about that with garrison stuff.
Yeah, leveling them up gets you higher level missions, and higher level missions get you better rewards. Also, getting a salvage yard is a handy way to get upgrades for your followers once they hit level 100. Followers bring back salvage crates, you open them up on your salvage yard, and occasionally you'll get a follower upgrade. I don't think it happens in the level 1 salvage yard, but definitely in the level 2 and 3 building. Not sure if any of us told you about that with garrison stuff.
I've also gotten 2 665 boes from salvage yard crates.
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Yeah, leveling them up gets you higher level missions, and higher level missions get you better rewards. Also, getting a salvage yard is a handy way to get upgrades for your followers once they hit level 100. Followers bring back salvage crates, you open them up on your salvage yard, and occasionally you'll get a follower upgrade. I don't think it happens in the level 1 salvage yard, but definitely in the level 2 and 3 building. Not sure if any of us told you about that with garrison stuff.
I've also gotten 2 665 boes from salvage yard crates.
Yeah, that too! I got two in one day once.
(That's also the only time I got any BoEs from salvage, but I'll take it!)
Yeah, leveling them up gets you higher level missions, and higher level missions get you better rewards. Also, getting a salvage yard is a handy way to get upgrades for your followers once they hit level 100. Followers bring back salvage crates, you open them up on your salvage yard, and occasionally you'll get a follower upgrade. I don't think it happens in the level 1 salvage yard, but definitely in the level 2 and 3 building. Not sure if any of us told you about that with garrison stuff.
I've also gotten 2 665 boes from salvage yard crates.
Yeah, that too! I got two in one day once.
(That's also the only time I got any BoEs from salvage, but I'll take it!)
So at the start, is it best to focus on the xp missions to level my followers up?
Garrison Mission Manager and Master Plan addons are a must if you're at all interested in the follower stuff. Those two addons add so much info to the UI that you can see at a glance that it's almost a completely different feature.
As far as strategy goes, I generally do this: raid reward missions, then any that give my followers the biggest XP returns, then the highest gold returns, then follower upgrade rewards, then item rewards, then garrison resources rewards, and finally whatever's left to clear out the mission log if it's filled up with a bunch of low xp ones. It still takes time to level up a whole army, but once you get over half of your guys to Epic quality and over 630, you can quickly power level the rest.
Hey folks! My guild (mostly PA people) and I are running normals on Saturday nights (EST) and would be happy to bring some Clawshrimps along. Or non-clawshrimps. Honestly, we'd rather have fellow PA folks with us than pulling from the hit or miss goose pile that is i-queue. If you're interested, come and post about who you'd like to bring in our thread.
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Thanks! Not sure if I could personally make it, but I'll keep it in mind.
Okay, I finally bit the bullet. Got a prepaid card and am bringing my two good characters over to Draenor. Hopefully the girlfriend will be switching factions and joining as well. I'll look up a Clawshrimp when I can.
So, of our new folks who are just now rolling up to level cap, are any of you interested in getting in on raiding? And if so, what's a night that works well for people to do an off-night catch up run?
Our normal raid times are 8PM EST on Wednesday and 5PM EST on Sunday, but for getting folks geared up and ready to jump into the main runs we were thinking about doing an off-night run to get some some gear in the hands of folks that need it instead of just sending people off to the crapshoot that is the group finder/LFR. With the right makeup we could probably blast through the first 5-6 bosses of highmaul in like 90 minutes.
I am willing to go on w/e character I can be the most help on. If we have enough carry, I will soon want to raid on my brewmaster so could do that too.
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I would be interested in joining some raids. I have a 100 warlock (Cryllus) and a 100 monk (Korrano). My warlock has a Silver DPS from Proving Grounds, but my monk doesn't have anything yet from Proving Grounds. I can raid on alternating Sundays, and most Wednesdays. I am a single parent to a 4 year old, so I am at risk for getting distracted.
I would like to try some tanking for the first time on my monk. I've been studying Icy Vein's monk guide, but I would like to test it out with a non-PUG group.
I have a fresh 100 WW monk (Peijian) in the guild. I'd love to get in on any organized gear runs for newbies. I'm fairly open in the evening starting from 5:00 or 6:00 server time. Weekends are usually good for me too, especially Sunday.
I have a MW monk that i'd love to try healing casual raids on. My schedule is pretty brutal with work and school but if the stars align perfectly i'm totes down for some green mist love spreadin'.
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Wowhead is good for looking up quests, items, etc.
I like Icy Veins for the class guides.
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A lot of people have noticed that they're not doing as hot as they might like to be. I have a couple pieces of advice that are pretty easy to follow.
1) Look up your raiding priority list/opener/rotation on icy veins. Icy Veins isn't infallible, but generally those guides have been written by people who play their classes at a high level.
2) Look up a good raiding guild (mmo champ usually reports on world firsts) and try to find out how someone who plays your class better than you sets up their UI. You don't necessarily have to ape their UI, but hopefully you can find a post where they're discussing why they set it up the way they did.
3) If you can't find a good UI guide, here's a easy breakdown. Find out what is important to your performance (cooldowns, buffs, combo points, etc) and put that information closer to where you normally focus your eyes while you're playing. For instance, my combo points and my important buffs/debuffs are right there around my character model so that I can see whether or not a mob has rupture or I have Slice and Dice or w/e without having to look around for it.
4) Look at your logs. We have logs on Mr. Robot for all of our raids. Look at your buff uptimes. Is there something important that you're forgetting to do? As an example, when I'm playing as combat I need as close to 100% uptime on Slice and Dice as I can get. So I looked at some of the early logs and saw that I wasn't doing that very well. I adjusted some of my UI elements to make my uptime a lot higher and that helped my DPS.
5) Look at logs for other people who play your class. One example of this is you can compare Katchal's healing to Cellophane's (Katchal, don't know if you read this thread, but I'm going to put you on blast). Cellophane is healing like we're playing Warlords of Draenor. Katchal is healing like we're playing Wrath of the Lich King. If you look at the Butcher fight from 2 weeks ago, Katchal is casting Flash of Light almost every chance he can. Cellophane used it like 3 or 4 times. Katchal ran out of mana about 2/3rds through the fight. Cellophane didn't... Flash of Light is no longer the filler spell for most classes. Blizz has made it to where longer cast spells are way more mana efficient, etc. I don't bring this up to just blast Katchal, who I don't know and I'm sure is an OK dude (or dudette), but when you encounter a disparity in your performance with the performance of other people, looking at WHAT THEY ARE DOING DIFFERENT can help you play better.
6) Ask questions! Curiosity about your class/spec and your potential/actual performance is the first step to improving.
The logs are easy to get to for those of us in the facebook group, but for the folks who aren't we should probably have a place where they can easily get at those log links too.
Also I miss doing ridic boss kill posts.
Mr. Robot will show you all the logs your character was present for.
I usually just do all the ones I have a 100% chance of winning, but I also have 25 active followers who are fully leveled up at this point. I don't really remember my strategy from back when I was leveling up.
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I've also gotten 2 665 boes from salvage yard crates.
Yeah, that too! I got two in one day once.
(That's also the only time I got any BoEs from salvage, but I'll take it!)
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Garrison Mission Manager and Master Plan addons are a must if you're at all interested in the follower stuff. Those two addons add so much info to the UI that you can see at a glance that it's almost a completely different feature.
As far as strategy goes, I generally do this: raid reward missions, then any that give my followers the biggest XP returns, then the highest gold returns, then follower upgrade rewards, then item rewards, then garrison resources rewards, and finally whatever's left to clear out the mission log if it's filled up with a bunch of low xp ones. It still takes time to level up a whole army, but once you get over half of your guys to Epic quality and over 630, you can quickly power level the rest.
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I really need about 20 ilvls, I'm consistently healing around half as much as some of you guys
Our normal raid times are 8PM EST on Wednesday and 5PM EST on Sunday, but for getting folks geared up and ready to jump into the main runs we were thinking about doing an off-night run to get some some gear in the hands of folks that need it instead of just sending people off to the crapshoot that is the group finder/LFR. With the right makeup we could probably blast through the first 5-6 bosses of highmaul in like 90 minutes.
So yeah....thoughts?
I would like to try some tanking for the first time on my monk. I've been studying Icy Vein's monk guide, but I would like to test it out with a non-PUG group.
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