Making Steve Yeowell's art bigger would only make it look so much worse. Normally I'd be all for making an Absolute Grant Morrison book, but the start of the Invisibles is so blandly drawn that I almost didn't read it.
For me, the Absolute vanity volumes are probaby 80% for the art and 20% for the story.
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I didn't really have a problem with he art. Plus, there's some good stuff in there.
Man I went to the store here in Etown. The wierd little guy was all nope, just for "customers". He only orders what he is 100% sure to sell, I guess. If you do not have a box subscription/pull list, you are apparently not a customer. Dammit. To hell with that place. I guess I will check the place in Bloomsburg tomorrow on my lunch break.
Is it worth picking this up if I missed all the miniseries and the likes?
Is there an awful lot of backstory to catch up on?
Yes. Whether you track down the floppies or the trades, you should wait to read everything in one sitting. Seven Soldiers #1 is practically bursting with detail and pulls a lot of the threads from the miniseries together. It's well worth it, mind you.
Is it worth picking this up if I missed all the miniseries and the likes?
Is there an awful lot of backstory to catch up on?
Yes. Whether you track down the floppies or the trades, you should wait to read everything in one sitting. Seven Soldiers #1 is practically bursting with detail and pulls a lot of the threads from the miniseries together. It's well worth it, mind you.
Bursting with details? More like a clusterfuck of everything (good). I haven't read any Seven Soldiers since the last Frankenstein came out, and I read them as released, once. I've forgot a lot of shit. I've found my new sunday project.
Everything about this is so perfect. I cannot stop talking about this comic, but nobody is home so I'm telling Cupcake how perfectly everything comes together in the end.
Everything about this is so perfect. I cannot stop talking about this comic, but nobody is home so I'm telling Cupcake how perfectly everything comes together in the end.
Are people really picking this up without reading the minseries first? What the hell, people?
Let them buy it. They'll buy the rest after getting lost.
I guess so. I just wonder about the mentality of such a person. Hopefully this sells well enough to warrant some of the soldiers getting series in the future. I know there was talk of Frankenstein one and maybe a Zatanna one ages ago...
So the whole comic is just scene after scene where I put down the comic and pump my fist and dance around, but one scene that really got me was: [spoiler:4ad64ce128]New York is overrun with Sheeda, the Guardian is leading the charge on horseback, and the withered super-baby newspaper magnate is driving the bus. The tide is turning, a soldier has made the ultimate sacrifice, and Brains, former Newsboy of Nowhere Street exclaims:
"What did I tell you?
We'll beat you somehow."[/spoiler:4ad64ce128]
Hells Yes.
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[spoiler:6ca7b42db8]So uh guys
Is Zor doomed to live out the life of Solomon Grundy for the rest of eternity? Or what's up with that?
Also, I thought Zor = The Terribel Time Tailor, but apparently not. I guess TTTT is more of a equal oppertunity force of doom. Or something.[/spoiler:6ca7b42db8]
Is Zor doomed to live out the life of Solomon Grundy for the rest of eternity? Or what's up with that?
Also, I thought Zor = The Terribel Time Tailor, but apparently not. I guess TTTT is more of a equal oppertunity force of doom. Or something.[/spoiler:d6f472623a]
[spoiler:d6f472623a]Zatanna defeated Zor, who was the terrible time tailor, at the end of issue four by calling on the seven unknown men, of whom he used to be a member. He was the 'eighth of seven.' I think that was one of the other seven unknown men trapping Zor/TTT inside Solomon Grundy for all enternity after the end of Zatanna #4.
Or really, I think it's all seven of the unknown men, since Williams changed their lighting/color in each panel, which I think could serve to indicate that they're all there.[/spoiler:d6f472623a]
Everything about this is so perfect. I cannot stop talking about this comic, but nobody is home so I'm telling Cupcake how perfectly everything comes together in the end.
Cupcake is my cat.
You're so high on Morrison, and I know 100% exactly what you mean because I just put it down.
This is basically the polar opposite, the alternate universe twin of the Filth. Seven Soldiers of Victory #1 will go down in history as pure comic book magic. I wonder if JH Williams is the only artist to work with both Moore and Morrison? I know it seems unlikely but I can't think of any other crossover off the top of my head.
I don't know how he does it - or rather, how he does it that well.
[spoiler:ba44d3037a]I COME WITH GOD-SIGHT NOW may be the coolest thing a person can say.
I almost cried when "Did you think I would ever let you fall, young knight?"[/spoiler:ba44d3037a]
I want this one issue in multimedia form, 22.1 Dolby Digital IMAX Surround Image style. I don't think I can talk about it right now without exploding.
The last issue cemented Seven Soldiers as my favorite thing Morrison has written.
Halfway through the issue I was left thinking "How the fuck are they going to beat the Sheeda, there's so much left to do!" but when it all came together everything fell into place exactly as it should.
I'd really like to get a Zatanna series out of this.
I think ASS might still turn out better than 7S - that wouldn't be the case had JH Williams done the entire series, mind. I'm going to give myself some time and emotional distance before I pass judgment but otherwise yeah, at the moment, I'm feeling Seven Soldiers is the best executed of all Morrison's comic book projects.
If any one character gets an ongoing I'd like to see it be Frankenstein, with maybe the occasional cameo appearance by Shilo Norman.
It's probably my favorite thing Morrison's done as well. It sort of perfectly encapsulates everything that's great about his work into one series.
[spoiler:52c9c88085]The only thing that I don't quite get is the stuff with Mr. Miracle. Why does he do what he does in this issue, other than to make for a utterly fantastic last page?
Looking at it now, and maybe I'm reading too much into it (if that's possible with a Morrison book), I'm trying to piece together the metacommentary running through the whole thing.
Are the Sheeda are 'us'? Comic fans, readers and writers, using Jack Kirby's legacy to 'rape' comic's past to feed us now in the present. Comics are getting so dark and insular, personified maybe as the Sheeda Queen, who's own demise is put in motion by Spyder. The comics of now are going to destroy themselves, maybe? I mean obviously not all comics are rapefests, but one could definitely argue that they're getting progressively darker. Heck, over in Wildcats, Morrison is talking about what truly 'adult' superheroes would really be like.
And then, Mr. Miracle is reborn in a psychadelic color burst, bringing color back into the universe. On another comics board I frequent, somebody called that last page a "mission statement." Out of the ashes of the past comics are changing? Color and happiness and fun are coming back, as evidenced by what Morrison is trying to do in Batman, bring some fun back into Bruce Wayne's life. Maybe that's why Mr. Miracle is there, Space-jesus here to save DC from itself?
Yet it's ironic that if that's what Morrison is trying to kick-start with Seven Soldiers, he does it in the same way as the 'villains', taking these elements from the past and making something new. The seven unknown men, even Zor, are all of them bald, crazy chaos magician Grant Morrison. Not only does he start it all, but he finishes it too?
I dunno, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but that's what I got out of the issue when I read it again today.[/spoiler:52c9c88085]
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But then, I'm waiting for the trade. Then, I shall spend a glorious afternoon reading the whole saga.
oh gosh
Making Steve Yeowell's art bigger would only make it look so much worse. Normally I'd be all for making an Absolute Grant Morrison book, but the start of the Invisibles is so blandly drawn that I almost didn't read it.
For me, the Absolute vanity volumes are probaby 80% for the art and 20% for the story.
Yeah, but have you read Skrull Kill Krew, his Doom Patrol issues, and Sebastian O? It gets old really, really fast.
Tragically, his best work was Zenith... which is the oldest out of all of those books, and not reprinted anymore.
Absolute Seven Soldiers, though? That would be quite awesome. Two volumes of it, probably. I'd love to see oversized Ryan Sook art.
Ed: It's Yeowell Fatigue.
Wow
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I'm not geting 7S #1 till next week. AAAAH!
Is there an awful lot of backstory to catch up on?
The last issue came out today. You can't just read the last issue, especially if it's Grant Morrison. You will be struck blind with confusion.
Heck, from what I hear, ppls that picked it up and followed every iota of the storyline were struck blind anyway.
Yes. Whether you track down the floppies or the trades, you should wait to read everything in one sitting. Seven Soldiers #1 is practically bursting with detail and pulls a lot of the threads from the miniseries together. It's well worth it, mind you.
Bursting with details? More like a clusterfuck of everything (good). I haven't read any Seven Soldiers since the last Frankenstein came out, and I read them as released, once. I've forgot a lot of shit. I've found my new sunday project.
PSN: OrneryRooster
Also, holy crap now I have to go back and reread everything.
I'm going to have to reread it a few times, but he did it.
Somehow he did it. He finished it, and it's nearly perfect.
My favorite comic of the whole year, for damn damn damn sure. So many awesome moments.
[spoiler:0b0e25818d]
"That's okay baby. I'll get to them when we're done kissing."
"Pinnacle of Natural Selection, my ass."
Prophecy moves in for the kill.[/spoiler:0b0e25818d]
Let them buy it. They'll buy the rest after getting lost.
PSN: OrneryRooster
Cupcake is my cat.
It's ok. Klarion talks to his cat.
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I guess so. I just wonder about the mentality of such a person. Hopefully this sells well enough to warrant some of the soldiers getting series in the future. I know there was talk of Frankenstein one and maybe a Zatanna one ages ago...
More sales is always a good thing!
[spoiler:d6c1eddb90]I wonder how this will effect that upcoming Robin arc with Klarion,[/spoiler:d6c1eddb90]
:oops:
[spoiler:a91903ef2a]Now that he's an insane sex god with his own private time-travelling army? Yeah, I dunno.[/spoiler:a91903ef2a]
"What did I tell you?
We'll beat you somehow."[/spoiler:4ad64ce128]
Hells Yes.
Is Zor doomed to live out the life of Solomon Grundy for the rest of eternity? Or what's up with that?
Also, I thought Zor = The Terribel Time Tailor, but apparently not. I guess TTTT is more of a equal oppertunity force of doom. Or something.[/spoiler:6ca7b42db8]
Or really, I think it's all seven of the unknown men, since Williams changed their lighting/color in each panel, which I think could serve to indicate that they're all there.[/spoiler:d6f472623a]
like the sewing machine on the first page being one of the hobo trains
or the dc tie tack the mystery man is wearing
this and promethea pretty much cememt jh williams as one of the best artists who has worked in comics
You're so high on Morrison, and I know 100% exactly what you mean because I just put it down.
This is basically the polar opposite, the alternate universe twin of the Filth. Seven Soldiers of Victory #1 will go down in history as pure comic book magic. I wonder if JH Williams is the only artist to work with both Moore and Morrison? I know it seems unlikely but I can't think of any other crossover off the top of my head.
I don't know how he does it - or rather, how he does it that well.
[spoiler:ba44d3037a]I COME WITH GOD-SIGHT NOW may be the coolest thing a person can say.
I almost cried when "Did you think I would ever let you fall, young knight?"[/spoiler:ba44d3037a]
I want this one issue in multimedia form, 22.1 Dolby Digital IMAX Surround Image style. I don't think I can talk about it right now without exploding.
Halfway through the issue I was left thinking "How the fuck are they going to beat the Sheeda, there's so much left to do!" but when it all came together everything fell into place exactly as it should.
I'd really like to get a Zatanna series out of this.
If any one character gets an ongoing I'd like to see it be Frankenstein, with maybe the occasional cameo appearance by Shilo Norman.
[spoiler:52c9c88085]The only thing that I don't quite get is the stuff with Mr. Miracle. Why does he do what he does in this issue, other than to make for a utterly fantastic last page?
Looking at it now, and maybe I'm reading too much into it (if that's possible with a Morrison book), I'm trying to piece together the metacommentary running through the whole thing.
Are the Sheeda are 'us'? Comic fans, readers and writers, using Jack Kirby's legacy to 'rape' comic's past to feed us now in the present. Comics are getting so dark and insular, personified maybe as the Sheeda Queen, who's own demise is put in motion by Spyder. The comics of now are going to destroy themselves, maybe? I mean obviously not all comics are rapefests, but one could definitely argue that they're getting progressively darker. Heck, over in Wildcats, Morrison is talking about what truly 'adult' superheroes would really be like.
And then, Mr. Miracle is reborn in a psychadelic color burst, bringing color back into the universe. On another comics board I frequent, somebody called that last page a "mission statement." Out of the ashes of the past comics are changing? Color and happiness and fun are coming back, as evidenced by what Morrison is trying to do in Batman, bring some fun back into Bruce Wayne's life. Maybe that's why Mr. Miracle is there, Space-jesus here to save DC from itself?
Yet it's ironic that if that's what Morrison is trying to kick-start with Seven Soldiers, he does it in the same way as the 'villains', taking these elements from the past and making something new. The seven unknown men, even Zor, are all of them bald, crazy chaos magician Grant Morrison. Not only does he start it all, but he finishes it too?
I dunno, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but that's what I got out of the issue when I read it again today.[/spoiler:52c9c88085]